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cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 11:57 AM Nov 2014

FFRF combats ‘pervasive religious endorsement’ in Texas school district



Numerous allegations of Establishment Clause violations include religious postings in several classrooms. One kindergarten teacher displays 10 Christian crosses on the wall next to her desk, several with bible verses printed on them. A high school Spanish teacher has a printed list of "Bible Verses for Teachers" on her wall that quotes such New Testament verses as Ephesians 3:16-17, "I pray that out of His glorious riches He may strengthen you with power through His Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith."

"Public schools have a duty to ensure that 'subsidized teachers do not inculcate religion' or use their positions of authority to promote a particular religious viewpoint," FFRF Staff Attorney Sam Grover wrote Superintendent John Kaufman in the Oct. 31 letter. "When teachers place Latin crosses or bible quotes on classroom walls, they have unconstitutionally entangled the school with a religious message, specifically a Christian message."

It is FFRF's information that hallways in multiple Mt. Vernon schools contain religious quotes painted on the walls. At Mt. Vernon High School, the quotes include, "Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face," attributed to Ronald Reagan, as well as one attributed to Thomas Paine, "Reputation is what men and women think of us, character is what God and angels know of us."

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"Given the variety and pervasiveness of the violations reported to us, we recommend that the district not only address the specific violations reported here, but also make an effort to educate all district employees about their obligation to remain neutral toward religion under the Establishment Clause," the letter concluded.

"We have rarely seen such a collection of egregious state/church violations in one school district," commented Annie Laurie Gaylor, FFRF co-president. "This is religion run amok, targeting a captive audience of young students, including elementary school students. All of these religious mottos, symbols, posters, bible verses and Christian T-shirts should be removed immediately."


- See more at: http://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/21713-ffrf-combats-pervasive-religious-endorsement-in-texas-school-district#sthash.RwJZ2Qfr.ObAUdIUH.dpuf
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FFRF combats ‘pervasive religious endorsement’ in Texas school district (Original Post) cleanhippie Nov 2014 OP
If Saint Ronnie thought that, mr blur Nov 2014 #1
Wasn't the astrologer Nancy's? cleanhippie Nov 2014 #4
The three wise men were astrologers/astronomers, back then the practice was one. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #5
Scientists and astronomers had to be astrologers too. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2014 #7
If they would only follow them... Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #2
That's egregious. rug Nov 2014 #3
East Texas is like this. And East Texas is very large. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2014 #6
 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
1. If Saint Ronnie thought that,
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:05 PM
Nov 2014

then why would he not make a decision without consulting his astrologer? Was she some kind of holy Judeo-Christian astrologer?

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
4. Wasn't the astrologer Nancy's?
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:09 PM
Nov 2014

I thought I read recently that it was Nancy who employed that charlatan. Not to say that there was no influence on Raygun...

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
5. The three wise men were astrologers/astronomers, back then the practice was one.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:09 PM
Nov 2014

It was heavily relied upon by the rich and still is. It is their secret they don't want you to know or believe in, easier to have domination over us. It has been used in every corner of the world for thousands of years.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
7. Scientists and astronomers had to be astrologers too.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:25 PM
Nov 2014

Sir Isaac Newton was an alchemist and astrologer. Omar Khayyam, great astronomer and mathematician, was an astrologer.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
2. If they would only follow them...
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:06 PM
Nov 2014

"Within the covers of the bible are the answers for all the problems men face"

Love/care for your neighbor
Non violence aka Peace
Treat others as you want to be treated
Unselfish generosity
Spirit of non competitive, non authoritarian cooperation
Non judgementalism
Honesty
Compassion
Jubilee

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
3. That's egregious.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:08 PM
Nov 2014

Every student is entitled to freedom from Reagan on school property.

This is actually one of their stronger cases.

No response from the school district yet.

http://www.kltv.com/story/27270622/mount-vernon-isd-responds-to-allegations-of-religious-endorsement

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
6. East Texas is like this. And East Texas is very large.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:23 PM
Nov 2014

They see no problem with the indoctrination and do not understand that the teachers and administrators are not to promote their religion in school. They do not understand that there are people of other religion or no religion out there. Everyone in town is literally one of a few flavors of Protestant. They have probably never met a Jew, a Muslim, or a non-religious and out of the closet person.

There's a county courthouse with a nativity scene on it every Christmas season and they keep it there because "it's a tradition".

If you want to get scientific, axial tilt is the reason for the season.

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