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Thu Mar 8, 2012, 12:30 PM

Why The Reason Rally is Worth Coming Out For

Aside from the main point of the article: the thought experiment in bold is a really interesting suggestion. Of course, it will work best if you haven't yet said anything about religion or belief to the person in question.

Fellow Huffington Post contributor, Nathalie Rothschild, recently wrote an article titled, Why The Reason Rally Isn't Worth Coming Out For. The article appears to be a deliberate attack on atheists. She did all but call us "uppity" for organizing the Reason Rally. I will take up the mantel of defending humanistic atheists and present my case for why I think the Reason Rally is worth coming out for.

Rothschild implies that only gays need to come out of the closet and that there is no societal pressure for atheists to remain closeted. This is flat out wrong. There is a huge cross-over demographic between the LBGT community and the greater community of reason. This of course is in no small part due to the fact that so many religious believers in America consider homosexuality to be a sin. The Bible even calls it an abomination (Leviticus 18:22, Romans 1:26-27) punishable by death (Leviticus 20:13). The pressure to keep gays closeted comes from the exact same people who hate atheists.

Don't take my word for this; be skeptical. Go to the Reason Rally in DC on March 24th and talk to some gay atheists. Some of them will tell you that it was harder to come out to their family as gay and others will tell you that it was harder to come out as an atheist. It will probably be about 50/50. So why is it difficult to come out as an atheist?

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But on to the discrimination! Yes, atheists face a great deal of discrimination and fear of discrimination for being outspoken about our lack of belief. Again, don't take my word of it; be skeptical. You can look at stories that have been in the news like the insults and threats that 16-year-old Jessica Alhquist received for standing up in favor of the Separation of Church and State or the recent "controversy" involving Miley Cyrus's tweet of a quote from A Universe From Nothing by Lawrence Krauss. But don't even take that on faith, experiment. Come out as an atheist to your friends, family, and co-workers (even if you really do believe). Consider it a challenge. See what happens. Play the role of an out of the closet atheist for a week or so.


Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/staks-rosch/why-the-reason-rally-is-w_b_1326705.html

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2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 OP
cbayer Mar 2012 #1
2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #3
cbayer Mar 2012 #5
2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #6
rug Mar 2012 #7
obxhead Mar 2012 #2
2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #4
Silent3 Mar 2012 #8
deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #9
Silent3 Mar 2012 #10

Response to 2ndAmForComputers (Original post)

Thu Mar 8, 2012, 12:48 PM

1. There is a very interesting thread in the LGBT group right now that speaks to some of this.

The responses to a question posed have been both surprising and enlightening.

And as is common in that group, they are very thoughtful and give differing perspectives, all worth hearing, imo.

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Response to cbayer (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 8, 2012, 04:13 PM

3. You mean, straight people saying they're gay?

Gonna check that out.

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Response to 2ndAmForComputers (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 8, 2012, 04:19 PM

5. No, about LGBT issues compared to atheist issues.

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Response to cbayer (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 8, 2012, 04:19 PM

6. Never mind

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Found it.

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Response to cbayer (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 8, 2012, 04:56 PM

7. Ditto.

Thanks for mentioning it.

Here's the link for anyone interested.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11376958

Very salient and considered posts drawn from experience.

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Response to 2ndAmForComputers (Original post)

Thu Mar 8, 2012, 01:14 PM

2. I had no idea this was going on.

Thanks for the thread. I'll be sure to attend the event.

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Response to obxhead (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 8, 2012, 04:14 PM

4. Useful thread is useful.

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Response to 2ndAmForComputers (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:26 PM

8. I'll be there!

Anyone else from here going?

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Response to Silent3 (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:15 PM

9. I'd love to

but I'll be on the wrong side of the world and broke.

However, another good reason the rally will be worth it is the entertainment they've booked. The Westborro Baptist Clowns

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Response to deacon_sephiroth (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:55 PM

10. Southwest has some great fares into Baltimore

...from Manchester, NH, and then it's just $14 each way to ride Amtrak into Union Station. Hugely cheaper than flying directly into any of the DC airports.

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