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Sun Feb 26, 2012, 09:22 PM

Atheist Whose Article About Discrimination was Banned from School Newspaper Gets $1,000 Award

Good for her...

Today, the Knoxville News Sentinel (the paper that broke the story in the first place) published the article that the school banned. The editors are thereby giving it more exposure than her high-school paper would’ve offered and that benefits everybody. Thanks, Streisand Effect!



http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/02/26/student-whose-article-about-atheist-discrimination-was-banned-from-school-newspaper-gets-1000-award-from-ffrf/

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Reply Atheist Whose Article About Discrimination was Banned from School Newspaper Gets $1,000 Award (Original post)
pokerfan Feb 2012 OP
handmade34 Feb 2012 #1
RKP5637 Feb 2012 #2
Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #3
2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #4
pokerfan Feb 2012 #5
saras Feb 2012 #6
laconicsax Feb 2012 #7
Ohio Dem Feb 2012 #11
cleanhippie Feb 2012 #9
TrogL Feb 2012 #10
LeftishBrit Mar 2012 #16
skepticscott Mar 2012 #18
mr blur Mar 2012 #24
Marrah_G Mar 2012 #28
MarkCharles Feb 2012 #8
2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #12
laconicsax Mar 2012 #13
2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #14
laconicsax Mar 2012 #15
EvilAL Mar 2012 #17
cleanhippie Mar 2012 #19
cbayer Mar 2012 #20
cleanhippie Mar 2012 #23
EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2012 #21
cbayer Mar 2012 #22
Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #29
cbayer Mar 2012 #30
cleanhippie Mar 2012 #25
EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2012 #26
uppityperson Mar 2012 #27
deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #31
laconicsax Mar 2012 #32
deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #33

Response to pokerfan (Original post)

Sun Feb 26, 2012, 10:10 PM

1. "The Christian faith cannot rule the United States. It is unconstitutional"

Krystal is onto something...

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Response to handmade34 (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 26, 2012, 10:16 PM

2. +1,000,000 +++

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Response to pokerfan (Original post)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 12:52 AM

3. So atheism IS a religion....thought so.

 

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Response to Kurmudgeon (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 01:09 AM

4. Your side got burned here. Was that an attempt to compensate?

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Response to Kurmudgeon (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 02:18 AM

5. What an odd comment

Please continue.

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Response to pokerfan (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 02:39 AM

6. If the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster can be a religion, why not atheism?

 

I suppose you'd have to believe irrationally in the absence of God, even though no science works without God, and atheists, like everyone else, depend on God for the sun to rise, for enzymes to catalyze their appropriate reactions, and, of course, to roll the quantum dice for every elementary particle in the universe. I mean, who else could do it? Could YOU do it?

I REALLY hope the is redundant.


I wouldn't go so far as to call the article boring, but it's close. Factual, newsy, and really quiet in its opinions. I'm not surprised it gets generally civil reactions. As a writer, she's definitely a student of government.

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Response to Kurmudgeon (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 02:50 AM

7. Yep, just like how "transparent" is a color. n/t

 

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Response to laconicsax (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:18 PM

11. And like how baldness is a hair color.

And not collecting coins is a hobby.

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Response to Kurmudgeon (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:02 AM

9. Still trying to convince yourself, I see.




I know it really burns you up to know that your religion is never going to be enshrined into law, that fewer and fewer people are believing the nonsense your religion offers, and that reason and critical thought are winning the day.

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Response to Kurmudgeon (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:52 AM

10. Ok define "religion"

Let's use Christianity as an example.

Dogma - check
Prescribed text - check
Liturgy - check

Atheism

Dogma - "there is no God"
Prescribed text - none
Liturgy - none

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Response to Kurmudgeon (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 4, 2012, 04:30 AM

16. How does this make atheism a religion?

If someone is compensated for being discriminated over being black, or female, or gay, or a Democrat, does that make being black or female, or gay, or a Democrat a religion?

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Response to Kurmudgeon (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 4, 2012, 07:51 AM

18. Don't imagine that "thought" entered into it at all

It's simply something that you desperately need to convince yourself or others of, and so you cling like a life preserver to anything that seems to validate it, regardless of its intellectual support.

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Response to Kurmudgeon (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 4, 2012, 02:50 PM

24. I don't think you thought, at all.

Imagine that.

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Response to Kurmudgeon (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 4, 2012, 11:15 PM

28. Lack of a belief in God does not a religion make.

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Response to pokerfan (Original post)

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:02 AM

8. I love it when things like this happen to...

 

get the true believers all upset.

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Response to MarkCharles (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 11:44 PM

12. See post 4.

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Response to 2ndAmForComputers (Reply #12)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 11:53 PM

13. He can't.

 

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Response to laconicsax (Reply #13)

Sun Mar 4, 2012, 01:11 AM

14. Shame he lost his cool.

He should have called defenders of women rights "pro-deathers." That'd grant him immunity.

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Response to 2ndAmForComputers (Reply #14)

Sun Mar 4, 2012, 01:59 AM

15. Ba-zing.

 

Alternatively, he could have called an accused murderer an "evil c*nt" and still won the immunity idol.

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Response to 2ndAmForComputers (Reply #14)

Sun Mar 4, 2012, 06:49 AM

17. Yeah,

Too bad. He made some good points in his short time here. Ruffled a few of the wrong feathers and then got out of hand it seems.. Oh well. I've seem people tombstoned for less than that..

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #19)

Sun Mar 4, 2012, 01:12 PM

20. You know, although I would prefer to avoid you like the plague, this post is really uncalled for

and unfair.

I had no personal beef with this member and the decision to ban him was a group decision by the MIRT.

You have no idea what went on regarding the decision and the final action, and your making this a personal attack against me is really out of line.

Continue to pontificate on things about which you know virtually nothing and engage in petty snarkfests that completely lack content. I don't really care. But to impugn my character and judgement in this case is just uncalled for.

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Response to cbayer (Reply #20)

Sun Mar 4, 2012, 02:48 PM

23. Then put me on ignore.

You want to avoid me? Ignore is your solution. I will continue to pontificate on whatever I choose, and I could care less how you feel about it.

You pick and choose what you want to see and respond to, seemingly ignoring what I actually said, instead feigning outrage at some perceived personal attack. I feel that in light of the recent events in Religion, it was inappropriate for YOU to be the one to write his eulogy. THAT'S what I said. THAT is not a personal attack. THAT is my opinion.


Lets look at YOUR words.

Member has been a problem for awhile and across various groups and fora.

I believe him to be a malicious intruder...


And you claim you had no personal beef with this member?

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #19)

Sun Mar 4, 2012, 02:02 PM

21. Trust me when I say that he dug his own grave

He did some things that were WAY over the line. They went beyond dickish into threats and stalking and harassment. Just because he was an atheist doesn't make him beyond reproach. He fucked up in a big way, multiple times, to multiple people, and he paid the ultimate price, his DU life.

Whatever cbayer's faults, she did the right thing here, and it sounds like it was done after some good discussion by the MIR team. I wasn't privy to those conversations, but I know they were had because of MIR team members who posted in the hosts forum, which I am privy to. Reading through the post in the hosts forum, it became pretty obvious that MC had caused problems in several groups and forums for several different hosts.

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Response to EvolveOrConvolve (Reply #21)

Sun Mar 4, 2012, 02:15 PM

22. Thanks, Evolve. I appreciate this.

It was a tough decision all the way around and the team worked very hard on it. We had a time limit to make a final decision (that's how the system works) and I would have preferred not to have been the one to pull the trigger because I knew there were some who would use it as a tool to personally attack me. But when it came down to the wire, I did it because he was continuing to relentlessly attack one of the hosts.

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Response to cbayer (Reply #22)

Mon Mar 5, 2012, 08:58 AM

29. You may have wanted to put in the description

that it was a MIRT decision. That might have helped make it look like it wasn't just you.

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Response to Goblinmonger (Reply #29)

Mon Mar 5, 2012, 12:15 PM

30. You are right.

MIRT works by consensus, particularly in difficult situations such as this, and a statement to that effect may have helped.

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Response to EvolveOrConvolve (Reply #21)

Sun Mar 4, 2012, 02:51 PM

25. And as I stated on my post above, I tend to agree with his removal.

What I took exception to was the fact that out of ALL of the Hosts, cbayer was the one to PPR him, and the words she used in the explanation on his transparency page reek of personal payback.

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #25)

Sun Mar 4, 2012, 03:06 PM

26. Cbayer removed him in her capacity as an MIR team member

I know that there's been personal animosity between the two, but this was definitely the right decision. If I thought otherwise, I'd be right there with you.

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #25)

Sun Mar 4, 2012, 03:32 PM

27. It was a MIRT group decision. The words she used were good ones, as many MIRT members agreed.

She tried to make it obvious why he was ppr'd, not as a personal payback but for behavior that deserved ppr'ing. Admin agreed with us.

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Response to laconicsax (Reply #13)

Mon Mar 5, 2012, 05:09 PM

31. thanks for bringing that ot our attention I had no idea

Percentage of posts hidden: 0.59%

and he's classified as a malicious intruder...

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Response to deacon_sephiroth (Reply #31)

Mon Mar 5, 2012, 05:24 PM

32. Here you go:

 

I can't link to the relevant thread because it's in the Host forum, but here's what happened.

He posted a press release from a questionable source in LBN. When his thread was locked, he started PMing the locking host legitimately threatening messages and accusing her of being a racist homophobe for locking his thread. When the host blocked him from sending her PMs, he started trolling active threads to continue his tirade. This wasn't the first time he had gone on the same 'everyone who disagrees with me or does something I don't like is a racist homophobe' tirade, hence the malicious intruder label.

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Response to laconicsax (Reply #32)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 10:18 AM

33. wow that is a shame

He had some pretty good ones.

Then again there was that time that he advocated the totalitarian banning of all religions under pain of law or death or something... I remember all the sane folks had to talk him out of his compound and ask him to put the gun down that day. Still, it's sad to see him go.

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