Pope set to name cardinals to reflect his vision of the Church

[Eugene]

Source: Reuters

Pope set to name cardinals to reflect his vision of the Church

BY PHILIP PULLELLA
VATICAN CITY Tue Jan 7, 2014 8:44am EST

(Reuters) - Pope Francis is set to make the most important decisions of his young papacy in the next few weeks by naming new cardinals - the "princes of the Church" who will help him set its future course and one day elect his successor from their number.

A pope's choice of cardinals is one of the clearest signals of the direction in which he wants the 1.2 billion-strong Roman Catholic Church to go, and what type of man he wants to succeed him.

Francis immediately set about changing the Vatican's image with his simple style after his election last March, so his choice of clerics to elevate on February 22 is more eagerly awaited than usual.

He is expected to reveal his choices before the end of January so that preparations for the ceremonial "consistory" can be made, but so far there have been few if any whispers of likely names.

[font size=1]-snip-[/font]

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/07/us-pope-cardinals-idUSBREA060HW20140107

[stg81]

1. and fire Dolan while you're at it

so he can pursue his real dream of becoming chair of the RNC

[skepticscott]

2. No doubt the pope lovers here

will be gushing over his choices, even though they will all be vehemently opposed to same-sex marriage and equality for women.

[hrmjustin]

3. Depends who he chooses.

[rug]

10. And no doubt the pope haters here

will be pissing over his choices, regardless of who is named.

[el_bryanto]

11. It's like you can see the future. nt

[rug]

13. I am nothing if not driven by evidence.

[hrmjustin]

12. How dare you use that type of logic.

[rug]

14. A ball, dropped, will hit the ground.

[okasha]

15. Speaking of balls,

I wish the prognosticators here--"This Pope will change nothing; go on doing exactly what the last one did; ad nauseam cetera"--would tell me where they got their crystal balls. I wanted one for Solstice and didn't get it.

[rug]

16. From their cats.

[okasha]

17. I don't think I want to lift that critter's tail,

even to see the future. On the other hand, that may explain what some of our habitual religion-bashers are seeing.

[MellowDem]

18. No, just the homophobic bigots...

Course, that's part and parcel of the faith.... So.... Chances are....

[rug]

19. QED

[MellowDem]

20. Naw, if he elects progressive atheists...

And some women among them, why, I'll be happy as can be.

But, it's kinds like hoping the KKK doesn't elect someone bigoted to lead them.

The Catholic Church indoctrinates children into misogyny and homophobia, which is part of their doctrine. Were you unaware of this?

[rug]

21. And when he does not appoint a woman or a progressive atheist to be a Roman Catholic Cardinal . . .

QED.

You live in a quite narrow universe. It leads to absurd opinions.

I'll make a point of looking for your posts after the announcement. A hypothesis is proven by predictable, especially very predictable, results.

[MellowDem]

22. The Pope lives in a narrow universe...

One where a demon is behind marriage equality. That's right, a fucking demon. Do you think that's an absurd opinion?

You live in a universe of cognitive dissonance. My opinions are absurd according to you, yet my opinions are never addressed by you, you just attack me personally. You might want to reflect on that.

If the Pope appoints bigots with the same beliefs as himself, I will think it's bad. My prediction is many moderate and progressive people will think it's wonderful, because of a combination of religious privilege, cognitive dissonance, and good ol intellectual dishonesty.

[rug]

25. I live in a universe of "cognitive dissonance"? Lol!

You can't even post without retread jargon.

[MellowDem]

26. It's not jargon...

It's a useful descriptor, and given that religion encourages and thrives on it, it will come up a lot in religion forums.

[rug]

28. Indeed it is.

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1188

[Goblinmonger]

23. I'd be happy with someone who isn't a homophobe and misogynist

I'm not holding my breath.

[rug]

24. So would I. They're out there.

[MellowDem]

27. Just not in the Catholic Church hierarchy...

Unless, they don't believe the very beliefs they claim to believe.

[rug]

29. That's incorrect of course but proves again your comments will be the same regardless of who's named

[MellowDem]

30. What is incorrect about it

[TlalocW]

4. He's just made his first choices (via CNN)...

Okay, RuPaul totally took me by surprise. Didn't even know he was Catholic.

TlalocW

[cbayer]

7. Hilarious.

I think some stand up comedians could really move things along.

Chris Rock comes to mind.

[TlalocW]

8. I could see that

Priest: I don't rape my choir boys.
Chris Rock: You're not supposed to you dumb motherf*****! What do you want? A cookie?

TlalocW

[cbayer]

9. Not hilarious.

I don't find rape jokes very funny and I've never heard Chris Rock make one.

[cbayer]

5. This could be really telling.

I guess he can't remove anybody who is already in place, but he's got quite a few vacancies to fill.

[Brettongarcia]

6. The worst American choice: Archbishop Charles Chaput, culture warrior.