| Author | Time | Post | |
| canoeist52 | Dec 2011 | OP | |
| Duer 157099 | Dec 2011 | #1 | |
| canoeist52 | Dec 2011 | #2 | |
| sorcrow | Dec 2011 | #3 | |
| Duer 157099 | Dec 2011 | #4 | |
| ixion | Dec 2011 | #5 | |
| ManiacJoe | Dec 2011 | #6 | |
| canoeist52 | Dec 2011 | #7 | |
| Martin Eden | Dec 2011 | #8 | |
| Kolesar | Dec 2011 | #9 | |
| Martin Eden | Dec 2011 | #10 | |
| Kolesar | Dec 2011 | #11 | |
| petronius | Dec 2011 | #12 | |
| Remmah2 | Dec 2011 | #13 | |
| Codeine | Jan 2012 | #14 | |
| MichaelMcGuire | May 2012 | #15 |
Response to canoeist52 (Original post)
Sat Dec 10, 2011, 01:57 PM
Duer 157099 (16,528 posts)
1. Is this backpacking or car camping?
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and what are the relative sizes and weights of the two tools?
Then I'll answer. |
Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #1)
Sat Dec 10, 2011, 02:02 PM
canoeist52 (1,546 posts)
2. Wilderness camping - canoe and kayak
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Backpacking - probably just bring a knife
Canoe camping gives you much more leeway weight -wise Car camping -what ever you like |
Response to canoeist52 (Original post)
Sat Dec 10, 2011, 02:18 PM
sorcrow (83 posts)
3. Saw
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I think a small folding saw is the best combination of size weight and utility. I keep one in my whitewater kayak for emergencies. For camping and longer trips, a Sven saw is a nice if you're in a place where fires are practical and allowed.
Crow |
Response to canoeist52 (Original post)
Sat Dec 10, 2011, 02:24 PM
Duer 157099 (16,528 posts)
4. Axe
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You can't use a saw as a hammer
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Response to canoeist52 (Original post)
Sat Dec 10, 2011, 04:02 PM
ixion (29,528 posts)
5. Axe
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A saw is handy, but an axe ultimately has more usefulness.
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Response to canoeist52 (Original post)
Sat Dec 10, 2011, 04:09 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
6. Probably go with ax.
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A saw has limited functionality. The ax can chop, split, and pound.
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Response to canoeist52 (Original post)
Sat Dec 10, 2011, 06:05 PM
canoeist52 (1,546 posts)
7. I like my folding saw but I also use a small hand axe for splitting.
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Although I've seen far fewer injuries with the folding saw.
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Response to canoeist52 (Original post)
Sun Dec 11, 2011, 10:22 PM
Martin Eden (4,200 posts)
8. Coiled Wire Saw, occasionally
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I'm a backpacker, and weight is at a premium. Unless the backcountry campsite has an established fire ring, I seldom build a fire. If I think I'll need to make sticks into smaller pieces that can't be easily broken and need to be sawed, I carry a small coiled wire saw that can be rigged as a bow saw with a curved green branch.
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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #8)
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 02:38 PM
Kolesar (29,328 posts)
9. I don't make fires when I am backpacking
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I would burn one of my solid fuel tablets if I needed a fire starter for an emergency: signaling or heat.
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Response to Kolesar (Reply #9)
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 07:10 PM
Martin Eden (4,200 posts)
10. So then, you don't need an axe or a saw.
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Like I said, I seldom make a fire when I backpack. However, if there is an established fire ring and no prohibitions, making a small fire with dead & down debris for a little warmth and enjoyment does not violate LNT ethics.
I live near Chicago, and have most often backpacked in Porcupine Mountains Wilderness State Park (upper Michigan), Red River Gorge in Kentucky, and the North Carolina Mountains. Twice in Colorado (RMNP & Lost Creek Wilderness), and twice in the High Peaks of the Adirondacks in NY state. Care to share your backcountry haunts? |
Response to Martin Eden (Reply #10)
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 10:37 AM
Kolesar (29,328 posts)
11. Belly River and Ptarmigan Tunnel in Glacier NP last year
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Last edited Wed Dec 14, 2011, 11:02 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) We started at the "border customs" trailhead and hiked to the ranger station campground, then to Elizabeth Lake campground where we watched an osprey soaring and fishing. On the third day, we climbed 2800 feet to Ptarmigan tunnel then descended to the Many Glacier Campground. We did the climb in clouds and a mist, so there was no sun and heat to slow us down.
The view of the red rock valley climbing Ptarmigan pass was the best. The first day of the hike was pretty super. We hiked through a high prairie of yellow flowers. This was a trip I had wanted to do for years. I recommend it. I rode the "east side shuttle" back to the car on the fourth day. Usually, we visit national parks and just go day hiking. It's on the NE side of the park. Click the map rectangle-link for a special map viewer. http://www.nps.gov/glac/planyourvisit/backcountry.htm |
Response to canoeist52 (Original post)
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 08:55 PM
petronius (19,653 posts)
12. Car camping, I take a hand axe, for pounding stakes and splitting wood
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Backpacking, I only burn downed wood that I can break by hand or with a stomp - small enough to burn completely and not leave big partially-burned chunks - so neither would be very useful. However, I'm probably going to add a wire saw to my emergency gear this season...
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Response to canoeist52 (Original post)
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 10:42 AM
Remmah2 (3,291 posts)
13. Mid length axe if I'm solo.
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If we have a gaggle going out, one axe and one Swen for the 6 of us.
My axe has a hollow handle, I keep my sharpening file there. |
Response to canoeist52 (Original post)
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 08:41 PM
Codeine (12,682 posts)
14. Axe for splitting wood.
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A saw seems a bit silly to me.
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Response to canoeist52 (Original post)
Sat May 12, 2012, 07:40 AM
MichaelMcGuire (1,619 posts)
15. Nether other than a saw wire in my survival tin.
If I'm wild camping, I use my Banshee 300.
Or a Tarp, or tarpaulin and walking stick/s |

