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Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:17 AM

NNN0LHI (67,185 posts)

Anyone ever attempted trying to tie a knot with braided fishing line?

Tried to put some Spiderwire Ultracast Invisibraid on my reels and I could not tie this stuff so it would stay tied. Too slick. Tried every knot tying trick in the book with no luck whatsoever. Put a little tension on it and it untied itself and came right off the reel spool every time. Crazy.

Someone told me to put a drop of crazy glue on the knot and that will do it. Is that a good idea? Anyone ever try that?

Going to have to try something here.

Don

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Anyone ever attempted trying to tie a knot with braided fishing line? (Original post)	NNN0LHI	Feb 2012	OP
I'd say no to crazy glue. Have you tried an arbor knot?	Scuba	Feb 2012	#1
I tried every kind of knot I could think of with this stuff including an arbor knot	NNN0LHI	Feb 2012	#2
Try to just stick with a good monofilament line.	seeviewonder	Feb 2012	#3
Usually fish for lm bass	NNN0LHI	Feb 2012	#5
I typically fish for largemouth also.	seeviewonder	Feb 2012	#7
Have you tried a Palomar knot?	Magleetis	Feb 2012	#4
I tried fluorocarbon last year and initially had the same problem trying to tie that	NNN0LHI	Feb 2012	#6
I'm going to presume that this is a synthetic material here.	Callisto32	Mar 2012	#8
Not sure if it is all synthetic but I would guess it is	NNN0LHI	Mar 2012	#9
I use Spiderwire in my antenna shooter	BiggJawn	Mar 2012	#10
Had a friend with a cross-bow and a fishing reel install my Carolina Windom	NNN0LHI	Mar 2012	#11
Bows are a little hard to use these days...	BiggJawn	Mar 2012	#12
Go up a foot or two and double the line up,	safeinOhio	Mar 2012	#13
I figured the knot tying out but now I have another problem	NNN0LHI	Mar 2012	#14
When you pull hard on it like that,	safeinOhio	Mar 2012	#15

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Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:19 AM

Scuba (26,776 posts)

1. I'd say no to crazy glue. Have you tried an arbor knot?

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Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:24 AM

NNN0LHI (67,185 posts)

2. I tried every kind of knot I could think of with this stuff including an arbor knot

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My eyes aren't worth a heck though so there is a good chance I am not doing it correctly.

And this stuff is real thin too. Almost like hair. Which doesn't help matters.

Don

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Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:44 PM

seeviewonder (461 posts)

3. Try to just stick with a good monofilament line.

I've never been a fan of braided line, especially when it comes to true baitcaster reels. If you just purchase a stronger/thicker mono line it will be about the same effect. And the arbor knot is your best bet as the other postet mentioned. I recommend Stren, personally, but I like SpiderWire mono as well. What do you fish for usually?

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Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:58 PM

NNN0LHI (67,185 posts)

5. Usually fish for lm bass

Sometimes I hook or snag a large carp or catfish while doing that because I like jigging. Also go to the Kankakee river and fish for sm bass, walleye and pike with the same gear so I need the line strength at a smaller diameter because occasionally I need almost a hundred yards of line. That is why I got away from the mono.

Don

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Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:16 PM

seeviewonder (461 posts)

7. I typically fish for largemouth also.

I understand your need for braided line in that situation, though.

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Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:12 AM

Magleetis (1,233 posts)

4. Have you tried a Palomar knot?

It works for me. I agree with the other posters about mono. You can also try flourocarbon if you want less stretch. The Crappie spawn is in full swing down here in Louisiana. Slabs!

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Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:05 PM

NNN0LHI (67,185 posts)

6. I tried fluorocarbon last year and initially had the same problem trying to tie that

I just practiced with it for a while and finally got that figured out. Someone talking me into trying braided and now it is like starting all over again learning how to tie a knot. Probably that is what I am going to need to do with the braid. Just practice with it for a while. I did try the Palomar but I may need to practice with it some more.

Thanks to everyone for all the help.

Don

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Sun Mar 4, 2012, 05:48 AM

Callisto32 (2,997 posts)

8. I'm going to presume that this is a synthetic material here.

Frankly, this is just a thought I had 12 minutes after I woke up but...

Have you tried melting it slightly? Maybe use a hot needle or pin to melt a very small part of the line, like a spot weld for plastic?

I don't know if you can do this while preserving the tensile strength, though, so, again, just a thought.

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Sun Mar 4, 2012, 04:46 PM

NNN0LHI (67,185 posts)

9. Not sure if it is all synthetic but I would guess it is

Has the braided material in the middle and then some type of coating over that. Positive the coating is synthetic. Not sure about the braid?

I have been practicing with it for a few days and think I have it figured out now. Went fishing today and the knots held up fine. Casts very smooth too.

Only thing I caught was a stick fish. Pretty good size stick fish though.

Thanks for the advice.

Don

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Tue Mar 6, 2012, 03:30 AM

BiggJawn (23,051 posts)

10. I use Spiderwire in my antenna shooter

The ol' slingshot/fishing reel trick. Palomar knot usually keeps the line attached to the sinker...

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Tue Mar 6, 2012, 06:40 AM

NNN0LHI (67,185 posts)

11. Had a friend with a cross-bow and a fishing reel install my Carolina Windom

All I had to do was point out the branch I wanted it over and he hit it the first shot.

He was just using mono though.

Don

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Tue Mar 6, 2012, 07:53 AM

BiggJawn (23,051 posts)

12. Bows are a little hard to use these days...

The neighbours calling the police and all that...

With the spiderwire, I could shoot a 1-Oz sinker twice as high as I could one with 10-pound mono.

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Sat Mar 17, 2012, 12:38 AM

safeinOhio (7,465 posts)

13. Go up a foot or two and double the line up,

or kind of make a loop, only squeeze it together into a point. Then push the doubled up loop, or point, thru the eye. Pull out a lot of line, still doubled up and then open the loop and drop the lure thru it and pull it tight.

Easiest knot to tie and very fast. Never had that knot slip off. Hard to believe it is so easy.
Don't know the name of it. Got a free little book on knots at Bass Pro or Cabela's, can't remember which, that showed how to do it.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #13)

Sat Mar 17, 2012, 09:23 AM

NNN0LHI (67,185 posts)

14. I figured the knot tying out but now I have another problem

When I get snagged in the brush or a tree with this line I can't break it.

I am dying from a thousand cuts all over my hands trying to get it to break. If it is just the hook snagged it is no problem. Just pull the lines until I straighten the hook out. But if the line gets wrapped around something there is no breaking this line. All I can do is get close and cut it with scissors.

Some tough stuff.

Don

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Sat Mar 17, 2012, 09:32 AM

safeinOhio (7,465 posts)

15. When you pull hard on it like that,

you'll find that the line on the reel will cut deep into the rest of the line on the spool. Will screw up cast after that.

On the other side, you can feel the slightest bite. Great for deep fishing for perch down 30 or 40 feet. Also great for ripping a top water lure thru the pads when it is hung up.

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