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HOW ABOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!! (Original Post) madinmaryland Jan 2015 OP
How 'bout them fans! El Supremo Jan 2015 #1
Who knew that Tommy Lasorda was a Cowboys fan. madinmaryland Jan 2015 #10
Someone told Lasorda there was a spaghetti feed after the game Brother Buzz Jan 2015 #33
LOL Auggie Jan 2015 #41
Impressive half-time adjustments by Dallas ... Auggie Jan 2015 #2
This will be the first time Dallas plays in Green Bay for a playoff game since the Ice Bowl. madinmaryland Jan 2015 #3
Very classy. Thank you. Ishoutandscream2 Jan 2015 #6
It's made much easier when the refs decide that an obvious pass interference didn't occur. mythology Jan 2015 #4
It was not interference. There was contact, but didn't appear to be interference. madinmaryland Jan 2015 #5
Looks like a bad reversed call to me: El Supremo Jan 2015 #7
I don't see it JonLP24 Jan 2015 #8
He was shoving his shoulder! El Supremo Jan 2015 #9
He did JonLP24 Jan 2015 #11
Exactly! n/t R B Garr Jan 2015 #32
He had to show he was going for the ball. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2015 #15
He wouldn't have caught it even without that ticky tack shoulder push JonLP24 Jan 2015 #17
It was a catchable ball. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2015 #18
He got his hand on it but it would have been difficult to bring it around the defender's back JonLP24 Jan 2015 #19
It was a catchable ball, and on this one, I'm going to go with the announcers, ScreamingMeemie Jan 2015 #20
They would have only faced Lions JonLP24 Jan 2015 #21
horse shit navarth Jan 2015 #24
Reminded me of this play from the 09 NFC Championship trotsky Jan 2015 #27
The one this weekend was WAY worse than that. Goblinmonger Jan 2015 #29
Of course I am in complete agreement with you. :) trotsky Jan 2015 #30
I agree with the explanation that the contact was minimal JonLP24 Jan 2015 #38
And I think navarth Jan 2015 #39
I have a pretty good idea JonLP24 Jan 2015 #42
According to the NFL rule book... hughee99 Jan 2015 #37
It was. nt RiffRandell Jan 2015 #12
Didn't even look back / make a play for the ball. trotsky Jan 2015 #26
HOW ABOUT THEM REFS!!!! KamaAina Jan 2015 #13
There were several other calls that should have gone the other way... madinmaryland Jan 2015 #14
The bottom line is he was born to be a "foot"ball coach. KamaAina Jan 2015 #22
Exactly... and for those who will go "ooooh other calls weren't made...oooo" ScreamingMeemie Jan 2015 #16
Thank you for being a reasonable poster. It was PASS INTERFERENCE navarth Jan 2015 #23
Hey, keep it classy pal..... a kennedy Jan 2015 #25
Let me get this straight navarth Jan 2015 #34
Even bigger than that was bryant trumad Jan 2015 #28
Absolutely caraher Jan 2015 #35
Hey cowboy fans ~ TBF Jan 2015 #31
Cowboys "got away with one" per head of NFL officials 1gobluedem Jan 2015 #36
IMO the Cowboys are not guilty in this. For sure they were given the game navarth Jan 2015 #40
How about the TZ Jan 2015 #43

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
10. Who knew that Tommy Lasorda was a Cowboys fan.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 09:20 PM
Jan 2015

Do you really think that the fat fuck can out Perry Rick Perry. Perry at least has a reason for supporting the Cowboys. Fat fuck has two teams in New Jersey that he is ignoring.

Auggie

(31,156 posts)
2. Impressive half-time adjustments by Dallas ...
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 09:03 PM
Jan 2015

though it looked to me that the Detroit defense -- especially the d-line -- had little left in tank by the 4th quarter.

I really wanted to see a Green Bay / Dallas match-up at Lambeau, so I'm happy with this victory. Hope it snows.

BTW, the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders are still #1.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
4. It's made much easier when the refs decide that an obvious pass interference didn't occur.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 09:05 PM
Jan 2015

The Cowboys got lucky today.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
8. I don't see it
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 09:17 PM
Jan 2015

If there was contact (not enough to justify PI) it would be OK if he turned around but I'm not an expert on the rule. Calls went against Dallas in the first half, some pretty bad ones too.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
11. He did
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 09:24 PM
Jan 2015

I really doubt holding though. Not like Michael Floyd having his arm held on 3rd down which the go ahead touchdown followed.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
15. He had to show he was going for the ball.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 11:24 PM
Jan 2015

He wasn't going for the ball. To throw a flag, discuss it on the sidelines with Cowboy players and coaches standing all around you and then pick the flag. Come on now.

Top pick up a flag a minute after you threw it? Come on man. I'm a Packer fan, and I call bullshit on that.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
17. He wouldn't have caught it even without that ticky tack shoulder push
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 11:58 PM
Jan 2015

Pete Morelli: Penalty not warranted

"The back judge threw his flag for defensive pass interference," Morelli said in a pool report. "We got other information from another official from a different angle that thought the contact was minimal and didn't warrant pass interference. He thought it was face guarding."

Face guarding is a penalty in college football, but not at the pro level. Back judge Lee Dyer threw the flag on Hitchens from the far side of the field. Head linesman Jerry Bergman offered the different -- and ultimately deciding -- view.

Morelli said he should have waited before making the initial announcement.

"The information came and then the officials got together a little bit later after it was given to me, the first information," Morelli said. "It probably would've been smoother if we got together."

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/12121292/referee-pete-morelli-explains-overturned-pass-interference-call-dallas-cowboys-detroit-lions-wild-card-game

This explains why they did throw the flag and why they did pull it after discussion.

Morelli: The better view was from the head linesman.

Morelli said that the head linesman saw minimal contact and he (the head linesman) felt the play was face-guarding and not pass interference, and the head linesman had a better view so that's why they changed the call. Face-guarding is a penalty in college, but not the NFL. When asked what he personally saw, Morelli said, "It's not my responsibility. I'm a hundred miles away." OK, then.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24935977/lions-cowboys-no-pi-call-pereira-disagrees-with-it-head-ref-explains-it

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
19. He got his hand on it but it would have been difficult to bring it around the defender's back
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 12:18 AM
Jan 2015

I should say the odds were very low of making the completion with or without the push.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
20. It was a catchable ball, and on this one, I'm going to go with the announcers,
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 12:21 AM
Jan 2015

the analysts, etc.

And I am sort of glad the Packers don't have to face the Lions in the post-season. That doesn't mean I agree with picking up a well-earned flag.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
21. They would have only faced Lions
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 12:24 AM
Jan 2015

If they beat the Seahawks & Packers advanced. Lions winning meant they'd be facing Carolina next week.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
27. Reminded me of this play from the 09 NFC Championship
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 10:51 AM
Jan 2015

Which WAS called, despite it being highly debatable (was the ball even catchable?).

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
29. The one this weekend was WAY worse than that.
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 11:46 AM
Jan 2015

But that call against the Vikings was BS. Yes, I'm biased.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
38. I agree with the explanation that the contact was minimal
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 06:55 PM
Jan 2015

This goes on pretty much every play in the secondary.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
39. And I think
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 12:46 PM
Jan 2015

You don't know what pass interference is. And I'm pretty sure that debating it with you would be pointless.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
42. I have a pretty good idea
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 09:41 PM
Jan 2015

but its all subjective so debating something as subjective as "minimal" would be pointless.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
37. According to the NFL rule book...
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 05:49 PM
Jan 2015

It is pass interference by either team when any player movement beyond the line of scrimmage significantly hinders the progress of an eligible player of such player’s opportunity to catch the ball. Offensive pass interference rules apply from the time the ball is snapped until the ball is touched. Defensive pass interference rules apply from the time the ball is thrown until the ball is touched.

Actions that constitute defensive pass interference include but are not limited to:

(a) Contact by a defender who is not playing the ball and such contact restricts the receiver’s opportunity to make the catch.

There's a bunch of other things too, but this first one seems like it would be the applicable one.

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/passinterference

Still, it's a judgement call, and IMO, the refs showed poor judgement in this case. These sort of things happen pretty often, though, and on judgement calls, you're always going to find people who disagree even when it's more clear-cut than this.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
14. There were several other calls that should have gone the other way...
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 11:04 PM
Jan 2015

so let's not go there.

The bottom line is you will have Sexy Rexy Ryan as your coach next year!!


ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
16. Exactly... and for those who will go "ooooh other calls weren't made...oooo"
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 11:25 PM
Jan 2015

The problem is, THIS call WAS made and rescinded a full minute later. The Cowboys got their three bogus calls in a row later though. And don't get me started on the 4 seconds that weren't put back on the clock.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
23. Thank you for being a reasonable poster. It was PASS INTERFERENCE
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 02:30 AM
Jan 2015

What a fucked up thing to have your momentum interrupted by this kind of bullshit. In the PLAYOFFS. Horrible.

It was clearly pass interference. Some people on this thread don't know what pass interference means.

That was a game changer.

All Dallas fans should buy that chickenshit ref a beer. He's your best friend.

a kennedy

(29,642 posts)
25. Hey, keep it classy pal.....
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 09:03 AM
Jan 2015
All Dallas fans should buy that chickenshit ref a beer. He's your best friend.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
34. Let me get this straight
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 02:22 PM
Jan 2015

Are you comparing calling my city 'detoilet' with my characterization of that ref? Tell me. Pal.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
28. Even bigger than that was bryant
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 11:09 AM
Jan 2015

running on the field without his helmet objecting to the call. That's 15 yards right there. So---pass interference spotted where it happened, and then unsportsmanlike penalty---15 more yards. Yeah I'd say game changer.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
35. Absolutely
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 04:11 PM
Jan 2015

I was pretty amazed they let that go. And there's no judgment call on that one - imagine the chaos if every disputed play resulted in every player who had a mind to object rushing onto the field to argue.

In a league full of flags for celebrations, how do you let this go?

1gobluedem

(6,664 posts)
36. Cowboys "got away with one" per head of NFL officials
Mon Jan 5, 2015, 05:32 PM
Jan 2015
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2015/01/05/detroit-lions-dallas-cowboys-referees/21297019/

So not surprised. And the Dez Bryant thing being a judgment call? What if Suh had run out on the field to complain? Yep, thought so.

Sigh.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
40. IMO the Cowboys are not guilty in this. For sure they were given the game
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 12:52 PM
Jan 2015

but you have to expect them to take that. They want to win, after all.

This is squarely on the shoulders of those officials. This raised a brand new level of egregiousness. There will be changes because of this, I am sure.

I believe it's incumbent on any HONEST football fan to call it like it is. If the Lions won like that, I would feel the victory was severely tainted, and act accordingly.

TZ

(42,998 posts)
43. How about the
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:34 PM
Jan 2015

Bribing of government officials for favorable treatment NFL team from Dallas. Even Snyder isn't that corrupt

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