Team USA vs. Russia hockey: Slava Voynov basically called Jonathan Quick a cheater

[jakeXT]

The Americans topped Russia in a shootout in their preliminary round matchup at the Winter Olympics on Saturday morning, but the game never would have reached a shootout if Fedor Tyutin's third-period goal wasn't disallowed.

USA goalie Jonathan Quick had kicked the net off its moorings ever so slightly before Tyutin put the puck across the goal line.

The Russians were pretty salty about it after the game, and defenseman Slava Voynov, who plays with Quick as a member of the NHL's Los Angeles Kings, basically called him a cheater.


Voynov on Quick dislodging the net before the Tyutin disallowed goal: "I play with him. I know that's his style." #USAvRUS

http://www.sbnation.com/2014/2/15/5414140/usa-russia-disallowed-goal-slava-voynov-winter-olympic-hockey-2014

[Berlum]

1. Whiners gotta whine

[charlie and algernon]

2. That Kings locker room is going to be interesting in a couple weeks

[joeybee12]

13. If he really thinks that about a fellow player...

You can probably write them off winning the Cup this year...that kind of anomosity tends to spread among the other players.

[caraher]

3. It happened a LONG time before the shot

To be sure, some goalies to push the net off intentionally and the penalty is rarely called. (Indeed, at my game last Sunday the opposing goalie knocked it free 7 times; when our goalie called him out on it after the game he said only two of those were intentional!)

It's a horrible way to have a goal disallowed, but Quick could not possibly have anticipated that it would result in a disallowed goal.

[El Supremo]

4. Somebody's going to a Gulag for this!

[Berlum]

5. Has anyone done a forensic analysis of the videotape?

To see if there are any images of Quick deliberately kicking the net?

[jakeXT]

6. Quick said he wasn’t sure what happened

Quick said he wasn’t sure what happened with the post. “I didn’t know if it happened after the puck went in,” he said. “I saw it was off. I didn’t know if it was before the puck went in – right after they scored, a guy skated through the crease. I didn’t know if he bumped it.”


...


Had this been the NHL, it’s a goal.

From the NHL Rulebook:

“The goal frame shall be considered in its proper position when at least a portion of the flexible peg(s) are still inside both the goal post and the hole in the ice. The flexible pegs could be bent, but as long at least a portion of the flexible peg(s) are still in the hole in the ice and the goal post, the goal frame shall be deemed to be in its proper position. The goal frame could be raised somewhat on one post (or both), but as long as the flexible pegs are still in contact with the holes in the ice and the goal posts, the goal frame shall not be deemed to be displaced.”

But it’s not the NHL. So it wasn’t a goal.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/russian-outrage-over-dislodged-net--no-goal--against-jonathan-quick--team-usa-201054242.html

[Iggo]

7. Yeah, but what about the flexible pegs?

[Lizzie Poppet]

12. "Flexible Peg" sounds like a stripper name.

[penultimate]

19. unisex stripper name...

[caraher]

11. Much earlier in the play it's clear that Quick dislodged the net

He was scrambling to his left and had lost his stick temporarily, and pushed off the post with he hand to stay on his feet - that's when it came off. The shot came much later.

The refs should have blown it dead for a faceoff well before the shot, but they didn't notice, either.

[Berlum]

18. Sounds accidental or incidental, rather than intentional

Shit happens around the crease.

[KamaAina]

8. If there have to be shootouts in Olympic hockey,

why is the same player allowed to shoot over and over again? I mean, it worked out well for us, but ewwww! Anyway, they should just play twenty-minute overtime periods until someone scores.

[Goblinmonger]

9. He's not in the first 3

Those all have to be different. Then it is one round a time and the same player can repeat rounds. T.J. thought he was going to get pulled after his miss.

And you do realize they have to play again the next day. Playing until someone scores could be exhausting.

[GoCubsGo]

10. The whole shoot out thing is asinine.

It's a ridiculous way to settle a game, and the Olympic version is even worse with the ability to use the same player over and over again. Having one player who excels in one skills competition event says very little about which team is the better of the two. It also turns one guy into some big hero, while ignoring the teammates who got him to that point. Pisses me off to no end.

I agree that they should just play overtime until someone wins. Or, just settle on ties and split the difference like the NHL used to do--medal rounds/playoffs excepted.

[hughee99]

14. I think one reason to let the same player go in the shootout (after the first three) is

if you have a David vs. Goliath matchup where one team is stacked with NHL players and the other only has a few, the don't want to see the game simply decided by the depth of someone's lineup. I still think they should scrap the shootout, and they definitely shouldn't have shootouts for medal rounds.

[GoCubsGo]

15. I don't believe there will be shoot outs in the medal rounds.

I think it was only a prelims thing, and hopefully, we have seen the end of them. I'm pretty sure we'll just be seeing overtime from here on out. As it should be.

[Upton]

16. Nah..that's not the case..

wish it was, I don't want medals decided by shootouts, but they will be..

OVERTIME During the preliminary round, tied games go to a four-on-four five-minute sudden-death overtime, as in the N.H.L. In the medal round until the gold medal game, overtime is played five on five for 10 minutes. In the gold medal game, the overtime is five on five for 20 minutes. In each case, if overtime does not break the tie, the game goes to a shootout.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/sports/olympics/olympic-hockey-is-the-same-except-for-this-and-that.html?_r=0

[GoCubsGo]

17. Damn.

As I've said before, what an asinine way to settle a hockey game. Very disappointing.

[joeybee12]

20. So, is he calling Rask a cheater today?