Wed Dec 28, 2011, 07:33 PM
ashling (19,198 posts)
I got a Kindle Fire as a gift - anybody use this?
There are lots of things I like about it, including that it makes it easy to read at odd times when I wouldn't normally be able to read a book - so I can get caught up on some reading that I kept putting off.
However, I think - for me anyway - it is more suited to reading fiction. I read non-fiction with pen in hand and highlighters at the ready. I learned to do this in college and law school and relearned this method in graduate school. It is mostly, history, government, and related studies (i.e., everything under the sun) I mean, after all, what is not related to one or both of these? Anyway, I write in the margins and the margins of the margins, use exclamation marks liberally and other symbols (stars, light bulbs, arrows, et al.0 throughout and on the footnotes and cross reference to other sections and other books, etc. So I am having to adjust. I hope that when Kindle updates next time they include some other highlighting/note-making functions (different colors, symbols, etc.)
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21 replies, 2094 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| ashling | Dec 2011 | OP | |
| Neoma | Dec 2011 | #1 | |
| ashling | Dec 2011 | #2 | |
| DisgustipatedinCA | Jan 2012 | #11 | |
| dixiegrrrrl | Apr 2012 | #19 | |
| seabeyond | Dec 2011 | #3 | |
| ashling | Dec 2011 | #4 | |
| seabeyond | Dec 2011 | #5 | |
| ashling | Dec 2011 | #6 | |
| seabeyond | Dec 2011 | #7 | |
| ashling | Dec 2011 | #8 | |
| DisgustipatedinCA | Jan 2012 | #12 | |
| seabeyond | Jan 2012 | #13 | |
| Viva_La_Revolution | Dec 2011 | #9 | |
| Merlot | Dec 2011 | #10 | |
| ashling | Feb 2012 | #15 | |
| I am the OP | Feb 2012 | #14 | |
| Lex | Feb 2012 | #18 | |
| tammywammy | Feb 2012 | #16 | |
| tabbycat31 | Dec 2012 | #20 | |
| tammywammy | Dec 2012 | #21 | |
| blue ivy schlotsky | Feb 2012 | #17 |
Response to ashling (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 07:35 PM
Neoma (8,980 posts)
1. That's why I have a problem with e-books.
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Though more because geography maps don't show up well on them.
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Response to Neoma (Reply #1)
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 07:47 PM
ashling (19,198 posts)
2. Good point
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And other charts and tables. I can see them a little better by viewing it on the Kindle for my PC.
I want to put together a list of ideas for updates - being able to enlarge maps and things. I never thought I would like reading on those little readers, but then I never thought that I would be reading so much on the computer anyway. |
Response to Neoma (Reply #1)
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 12:19 PM
DisgustipatedinCA (5,410 posts)
11. PDF works better for images than epub/azw/mobi/lit
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The ebook formats (ebpu, awz, et al) are great for scaling text larger and smaller, but this imposes limitations on the book. If you have a 400 page book, and enlarge the text to a size comfortable for reading, the book may suddenly become 900 "ebook pages". So it's really difficult to make the pictures show up where they need to be, and there's no ready way to zoom in on the pictures/maps/figures.
On the other hand, most ebook readers will read pdf files (Adobe Acrobat), and will allow you to pinch/spread in order to zoom in and out. This is a great way to display pictures. But they stay on the same page with the same amount of text that's in the original book. Personally, I think it's best to have picture-heavy books, art history, coffee table books, etc, as PDF files. Aside from all that, I wanted to take a second to sing the praises of the epub format. Amazon devices will not open epub books, but most other readers (Nook and iPad, among others) will. I think Amazon has this restriction in place because epub books are the ones most available for illegal download. But it's too bad Amazon has taken this position. There are lots and lots of public domain and "open source" books available, both free and legal, on the Internet (start with http://www.epubbooks.com/, if interested). I hope to see Amazon change their mind with a firmware upgrade one day soon. |
Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #11)
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 07:35 PM
dixiegrrrrl (30,807 posts)
19. Kindle books ( mobi format) can be changed to any other format esily
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using the free program Calibre.
I get my paws on mobi books sometimes, and just let Calibre convert it to epub if I want to stick it on the Nook. Also can turn pdf into epub....or mobi...etc. Often I will use Calibre to read the book on the puter.., esp for pics and maps. |
Response to ashling (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 07:59 PM
seabeyond (85,892 posts)
3. my kindle reading has that, for highlights and notes. i dont get it. i love my fire
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when i dont want to get out of bed and get lap top, i can use fire. i have a game i obsess with, mahjong? touch screen makes it so easy.i got one for my bday.
enjoy. |
Response to seabeyond (Reply #3)
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 09:00 PM
ashling (19,198 posts)
4. I like it - and for most of the reasons you mention, but
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The notes are very limited and they are not there to read with (alongside of) the text. It only has one color and intensity of highlighter.
As opposed to these pages from a book on Jefferson which jump out at me upon rereading and I don't lose the intensity of the emotion I had when reading it. These things are very important to the way I access the material: ![]()
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Response to ashling (Reply #4)
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 09:02 PM
seabeyond (85,892 posts)
5. ah ha. look at you. i hear ya. i have my stuff i do with books read and i cant on the kindle. nt
Response to seabeyond (Reply #5)
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 09:11 PM
ashling (19,198 posts)
6. It would help if I had some symbols
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to use like stars, flags, question marks, etc. That would at lease help me to recall where I was at (mentally) while reading.
also, highlight in red, green, yellow and blue |
Response to ashling (Reply #6)
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 09:22 PM
seabeyond (85,892 posts)
7. highlight in red, green, yellow and blue
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you have me laughing. i love peoples quirks.
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Response to seabeyond (Reply #7)
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 09:39 PM
ashling (19,198 posts)
8. Quirks? Quirks!!!
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Response to seabeyond (Reply #7)
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 12:21 PM
DisgustipatedinCA (5,410 posts)
12. you laugh, but my iPad's reader lets you pick from about 5 or 6 highlight colors
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There are different colored sticky notes too.
I can see the drawbacks in note-taking ability for nonfiction works. For fiction, I mostly use highlighting for the passages I like, and for the new vocabulary I've picked up in the book, and highlighting works well for those applications. |
Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #12)
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 12:24 PM
seabeyond (85,892 posts)
13. i do laugh, but i think it wonderful. i could never do that. BUT
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i have a notebook for my books so i remember what i read and what i need to read. i also tell the gest of the story so i will remember. especially if it is a series. i often forget. i have to peruse a book before reading the next one that finally came out.
i dont get to do that on kindle, that i can see. |
Response to ashling (Reply #4)
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 11:16 PM
Viva_La_Revolution (27,075 posts)
9. So you're the one!
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I find a good book 2nd hand for a good price and somebody has scribbled all over it!
My Dad does this too, and it drives me bananas to try and read his copy of anything. I was taught that books were valuable and to never write in them |
Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Reply #9)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 08:07 PM
Merlot (4,499 posts)
10. I was also taught that it was wrong to write in books
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It's hard even to this day to write in a book. It still feels "wrong."
Then again, in school I wasn't great at reading and taking notes...spent my time with the pen doodling, although NEVER in the book! |
Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Reply #9)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 08:08 PM
ashling (19,198 posts)
15. I'll send you a bill
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for the value added stuff
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Response to ashling (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:03 PM
I am the OP (18 posts)
14. Nope. I like the sensory experience of good old-fashioned books!
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Response to I am the OP (Reply #14)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 10:57 PM
Lex (32,243 posts)
18. I like both!
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That's the cool thing, having a Kindle doesn't mean you have to choose one or the other all the time.
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Response to ashling (Original post)
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 08:03 PM
tammywammy (18,432 posts)
16. I bought myself a Kindle Fire for Christmas
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I love it! I do read some on it, but still love regular books. I find it's great when I take it to school to do quick internet searches instead of bringing my mini-laptop. I was already an Amazon Prime member, so I love the Lending Library. I also love Where's My Water and Sudoku.
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Response to tammywammy (Reply #16)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:03 PM
tabbycat31 (5,026 posts)
20. how does the lending library work?
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I have a Kindle Fire that I got last month and am still figuring it out.
Is there a limit on how many books you can borrow? |
Response to tabbycat31 (Reply #20)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:13 PM
tammywammy (18,432 posts)
21. One book a month.
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So you go searching around and find a book that says it's free to prime members. Then you download it. Now, when it's time for another new book they take the old one off your Kindle and give you the new one you've picked out. Just look for any book that has the Prime thingy.
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Response to ashling (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:33 PM
blue ivy schlotsky (18 posts)
17. Why do people underline books?!
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I just bought a used book from Amazon and it was marred by constant lines. And it wasn't even an academic book!
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