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Tue Feb 18, 2014, 12:21 PM

Wait… Wut?!?



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Reply Wait… Wut?!? (Original post)
MrScorpio Feb 2014 OP
M0rpheus Feb 2014 #1
JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #3
yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #7
M0rpheus Feb 2014 #8
yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #9
M0rpheus Feb 2014 #11
1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #16
M0rpheus Feb 2014 #20
Number23 Feb 2014 #23
Number23 Feb 2014 #22
M0rpheus Feb 2014 #24
mzteris Feb 2014 #26
M0rpheus Feb 2014 #27
mzteris Feb 2014 #29
M0rpheus Feb 2014 #30
JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #2
M0rpheus Feb 2014 #4
JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #5
M0rpheus Feb 2014 #6
JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #10
M0rpheus Feb 2014 #12
freshwest Feb 2014 #31
JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #33
Half-Century Man Feb 2014 #13
M0rpheus Feb 2014 #14
JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #15
1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #17
Half-Century Man Feb 2014 #19
1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #18
Number23 Feb 2014 #21
M0rpheus Feb 2014 #25
JI7 Feb 2014 #28
freshwest Feb 2014 #32
heaven05 Feb 2014 #34

Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:08 PM

1. LOL!!!

Lack of knowledge, has real consequences!

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Response to M0rpheus (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:10 PM

3. True that!

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Response to M0rpheus (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:26 PM

7. Schools don't teach enough

I don't think they do a good enough job teaching African American History. Perhaps adding a semester every year to the subject would help in understanding the history.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:30 PM

8. They don't teach African-American history at all.

They teach "History", which includes some brown/black people in it, as extras.

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Response to M0rpheus (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:36 PM

9. You are right

I was thinking about the Civil War and Slavery but you are right that is part of history and not necessarily African American History. I do remember studying George Washington Carver in school and was mistaken about calling that African American History too.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #9)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:52 PM

11. That's the part of the History book that I call "Notable Negros".

Usually, it's a blurb in the one chapter about African Americans, or if they're trying to spread it out a bit, a blurb in the chapter for that specific time period. In my mind, it's a half nod to our contributions to this country.

It's also interesting that they choose the same people (Charles Drew, C.J. Walker, George Washington Carver and MLK), in all the history books prior to college, as if those are the only ones worth noting.

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Response to M0rpheus (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 05:53 PM

16. Morpheus ...

you make me laugh, with your raw statements. "Notable Negros"

You and I must have hung out sometime in the past, as we used to joke about Black History month, calling it: Negros of Note Month.

When I was coming up ... the first negro we were introduced to was "Mr. Anonymous Slave" and the next negro was Dr. Martin Luther King (the white-washed version) and that was about the end of it.

I swore that no child of mine would grow up thinking that that represented the totality of Black contribution to this nations rich history.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 06:37 PM

20. I'll admit that is a callback to a few conversations we used to have in high school.

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On the South side of Chicago in my Catholic High School Black History Month was exactly that, "Notable Negros-'All the black people you can stand for 4 straight weeks!'". When I got to College, I learned more black history in ENGLISH class with Haki Madhubuti, than I did in all 4 years of High School.

If you spent a few late nights at Izola's on 79th st in the late 80's it probably came up quite a bit!




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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 07:14 PM

23. You guys are cracking me up

the first negro we were introduced to was "Mr. Anonymous Slave" and the next negro was Dr. Martin Luther King

Yep, that's exactly how it is! I just said the same thing to Morpheus!

Start out with slavery and then jump 100 years ('cause I guess black people were all just napping for all of that time and not doing anything) to talk about MLK and the CRM. And we wonder why there are so many ignorant clueless people in this country.

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Response to M0rpheus (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 07:11 PM

22. M0, don't you know that black history begins and ends with SLAVERY??!



Except for of course the five lines that get tossed out about MLK and the Civil Rights Movement (chock full of Notable Negroes, you know) and yet, so many white people still have no clue who that man was or what he was about.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #22)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 07:26 PM

24. Most of the books haven't changed one bit.

We still have to go outside the curriculum to actually get real information. It's a shame.

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Response to M0rpheus (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:49 PM

26. No, actually they don't

Teach history.

The teach a white supremacist capitalist patriarchal version of it.

If it were real history, there would be people of all shapes, sizes, colors, creeds, and sexes.

Not just a bunch of old white guys doing all the real thinking and inventing and saving people and hard work and stuff. Not hard work like manual labor hard work, tho. Sho nuff that ain't for the likes of them fine fellas. No, that mental hard work. You know that non-white and/or non-males are capable of.

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Response to mzteris (Reply #26)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:55 PM

27. I think that's what I said. :)

I was just a smartass about it.

They teach "History", which includes some brown/black people in it, as extras.


History in quotes, because that's what they say it is. And the rest... yup, we're in agreement.

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Response to M0rpheus (Reply #27)

Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:07 PM

29. Sorry.

Usually I get sarcasm ('specially as I'm frequently called a smart ass sarcastic sob . . .)

I do see red on his topic, tho, and im not quite coherent. I'm so infuriated by it all.

do you want to know what REALLY pisses me off? I didn't know any of it until I went back to college about 2000. I was on that 25 yr graduation plan. I was lucky enough to have two professors, back-to-back semesters who taught more about real American history than I had ever learned in high school, or my first tour of college.

Want to hear something that makes me even sicker? My son comes home to tell me about his "American history" class and how it doesn't make any sense. Of course it doesn't. It's all lies and I've been telling him the truth his whole life. (I don't think his teacher is too happy with him, or me, at this point. I think if she hears "Howard Zinn" one more time she's going to run from the room screaming.) The sad part is, this is a Spanish immersion American history class so it is supposed to be inclusive, and minority focused. Uh-huh.

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Response to mzteris (Reply #29)

Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:30 PM

30. No sorry necessary! We're all friends over here!

History is written by the victors - Churchill
I actually did read that quote in my history book in HS and I took it to heart from then on. I take "history" with a huge block of salt as a grain is not enough.

As long as your son has you to back him up with the real deal, he can't go wrong!




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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:09 PM

2. They were afraid

The answers weren't fried chicken, watermelon, 'third way', greenwald, or assange.



I'm feeling salty and snarky today.


There's also some snickering and giggling going on at DU today today that no one can 'see' - and well - this will probably get 10 new private messages to my inbox!

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:12 PM

4. Hoo boy!

I wanna "see"!
Care to give me the hookup?

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Response to M0rpheus (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:17 PM

5. Private threads but

bettyellen called out MannyGoldstein in General discussion and someone tried to get a seabeyond post hidden and well gaaaaaaaaaah - I thought I could kick up the 'gelfite' or fish post Manny had but maybe he'll direct me to his apology thread and this is getting kind of crazy isn't it?

And right now - you are confused. But you my friend? You are one of my favorites here and I don't want to get you in trouble.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:26 PM

6. Confused and amused. :)

Also, happy to be one of your favorites! Yay me!

*Next time, Ill take that in a pm. Don't wanna rile up DU, now.

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Response to M0rpheus (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:47 PM

10. You know what

Go ahead and pile on!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4521024

Someone also alerted the ENTIRE thread/op that bigd did about 'why are white men like Dunn so angry'?

To quote Chapelle - For shizzle!


ETA: Look at this bullshit! http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4521243

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 02:12 PM

12. Ah... That thread.

I pretty much tossed that as I do 99% of his posts.

Off to go reading.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 20, 2014, 01:27 AM

31. I ran into a poster who said she'd tune into Smiley and West for the truth today.

Something about progressives and stuff. I just skipped by...

As far as the OP, we didn't have Black History month when I was in public school. We did, however have some presidents birthdays off, I don't even remember who.

And the state government was closed down for...

Wait for it...





Not yet...





Get ready...






Yes, it's that bad...







Jefferson fucking Davis!

Even at my young age, I was appalled.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #31)

Thu Feb 20, 2014, 05:31 AM

33. Well you know fresh

Davis was a patriot!

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 02:24 PM

13. Now I just gotta know

What were the questions?

Wait....Considering their shirts, is this from College week?

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Response to M0rpheus (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 04:03 PM

15. They were easy questions!



They avoided having to answer who orated the I Have a Dream Speech? That's weeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 06:08 PM

17. I looked at the questions ...

and thought BabyGirl 1SBM could answer all of these questions (except maybe the unit name of the freedman at Valley Forge ... we did spend much time on military stuff) by the 5th grade!

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Response to M0rpheus (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 06:34 PM

19. Thanks

I could answer three out of five.

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Response to Half-Century Man (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 06:10 PM

18. I wonder if anyone ...

on the panel was embarrassed by this?

And, what they did about it?

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 07:07 PM

21. My money's on Whitney!!



The last column on the board. with EVERY single question still there waiting to be asked. That's funny and sad as hell at the same time.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:46 PM

25. Last Night on Jeopardy No One Wanted to Answer Qs About Black History

http://jezebel.com/last-night-on-jeopardy-no-one-wanted-to-answer-qs-about-1525439303

Happy Black History Month, everyone, courtesy of last night's all-white College Jeopardy panel! In the second round of play, the contestants sailed through five of the categories—including "International Cinema Showcase," "Weather Verbs," and "Kiwi Fauna"—but avoided the sixth like the, ahem, black plague. That category was "African-American History."

In other words, these kids were more confident in their knowledge of weird animals in New Zealand than black human beings in America.

With video!!!

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Wed Feb 19, 2014, 06:41 PM

28. there was a post on this in GD

why do people act like this is personal and people are attacking the students.

the point was to show the problem with the institution .

and you have people insisting there was no racism on the dunn verdict.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Feb 20, 2014, 01:35 AM

32. Guess the frat kids didn't take Black History class. I elected to take two semesters.

It was an eye opener even in the early seventies. I learned a lot in the Q & A's from black students taking the class.

I can only hope the college kids had an epiphany and realized their ignorance. It could lead to them working for a better world, instead of Dittohead Dystopia.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Feb 20, 2014, 10:55 AM

34. not surprised in the least

ignorance personified.

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