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Fri Jun 8, 2012, 01:05 PM

Why Canada can’t be trusted (long), please read.

I suspect that agents in the FBI and CIA read this forum and I am posting this with the hope that they do. My story is a cautionary one and I am sure many already have their disdain for the Canadian apparatus, you can clearly see from my post here that I certainly do. This may read like a Hollywood movie, but one would have to understand the security apparatus in Canada which is far more akin to former East Germany or Russia to truly appreciate the power they hold. It is an apparatus that like the two former systems, will bankrupt the nation. I will not stop with exposing my story to Americans in particular until my life is allowed to move forward unabated. I apologize for the long read. It may take ten minutes out of your day, for me it has been two decades and counting.

Security is paramount in today’s day and age. Not only the terrorist threats, but also the usual espionage that is committed by foreign powers. My story may shed some light on why Canada; as an ally to the United States, should not be trusted nor be considered a dependable partner in the battle against these threats. The security apparatus in Canada from the municipal police to the federal level is inept, self-serving and as I learned extremely vindictive. It is a system that is based on protecting their power, careers, increasing their bloated budgets and avoiding embarrassment or outside “threats”, a minor concern on their agenda is protecting Canadians from legitimate threats; this is far down on their list of priorities. If they care little about Canada’s security, how much effort will they put forward to protecting America? I represent a threat only to their reputation as I confronted them with what I knew, this serves no one but a few selfish, vengeful careerists. As a sign of my faith in truth and transparency I would even be willing to give details to the FBI if requested to based on this posting. This is how enraged I am by the injustice I have faced and how I hope it enrages Americans to know how their sovereignty is being jeopardized by the security apparatus (I use the term lightly) to the North.

Before I go into my own personal trauma, I will provide the hard facts.

Canada recently had a naval officer spying for Russia. He had reached the rank of Sargent and had provided what was termed as “a wikileaks” AMOUNT of information to the enemy, but far more harmful in scope and secrecy. Ironically, it was the U.S security apparatus that caught this leak and a great deal of this information was high level NATO intel:

U.S. supplied vital information in early days of Canada's navy spy probe:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/us-supplied-vital-information-in-early-days-of-canadas-navy-spy-probe/article4204056/

Intelligence officer charged with passing secrets to foreign interests

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/intelligence-officer-charged-with-passing-secrets-to-foreign-interests/article1359054/?service=mobile

A purported U.S. State Department document from 2004 published by WikiLeaks last year describes the Halifax Trinity facility where Mr. Deslisle worked as a “fully integrated” fusion centre for naval intelligence as part of “a fully integrated US-Canada Maritime surveillance system.”

I am sure many of you are aware of the “Millennium bomber”, Ahmed Ressam who successfully traveled through Canada but was thankfully stopped by the U.S border with an explosive that would have killed many in Los Angeles:

The Millenium Plot:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/ops/millenium-plot.htm

Of course the most famous (at least in Canada), is the Maher Arar case in which the RCMP provided weak details to the Americans about Arar’s involvement in terrorism which started a thunderstorm of problems for both American and Canadian security agents:

RCMP provided wrong data on Arar, inquiry finds

http://www.rcmpwatch.com/rcmp-provided-wrong-data-on-arar-inquiry-finds/

The RCMP provided American authorities with inaccurate and misleading information that “very likely” led to Syrian-born Canadian Maher Arar’s arrest and deportation, the federal inquiry into the case has concluded.

These issues are evident at the macrolevel, but what about the microlevel? The individual circumstances and targets that bog down the system and take away resources from other more pressing, demanding and urgents needs? This is where my story comes in and it presents not only how disingenuous they are, but also how they blatantly stab the back of their allies.

I am essentially a “manufactured threat”. As entrapment is illegal in the U.S and England, but quite acceptable in Canada the ability for the security apparatus to essentially “create” threats is unmatched anywhere in the world, including nations we would not consider very democratic. They add a name to the system and milk it for all it is worth while smacking each other on the backs for a job well done; unbeknownst to the poor soul who is being decimated.


I love my country and I would never do anything to undermine it’s safety. I care enough about my country to expose what has and is happening to me and to be sure that every other nation knows about this, especially the United States; a nation which I have been raised to admire as being “just like us”, though almost certainly more free and accountable to it’s citizens. Consider some of the examples I provided above and how great a number of resources has been spent ruining my life while legitimate threats exist in Canada. Take in to account the facts, I do NOT have a criminal record, have never even been given a ticket for jay walking.


I am graduate of university who finished in top 4% of my class (and reaching as high as my MBA), I should have been able to contribute in a positive manner in the country that I love. A love I held so close that I applied for the army reserves while in University, and ironically, was interviewed for an intelligence position. The persecution I have experienced would be reserved for a war criminal, but instead it has been applied to a man who doesn’t even have a criminal record.

My story and the roundabout way in which it affects American security started when I was 17. An undercover officer at my high school befriended myself and others in “smash and grabs”. He was the ringleader, driving us to different locations. During the arrest I refused to speak without access to my parents or a lawyer, I was never disrespectful nor impolite as I always respected authority, but being a naïve believer in the rule of law, I was not only denied this right, but I was severely beaten with a stick to my groin and I was rendered deaf in one ear due to the beating I received.


I told the courts what had happened when we went to trial. I provided hospital records, and at the time I assumed wrongly that the ringing in my ear would subside eventually; it never did. The judge threw out the case of the police and actually chastised the detectives and the police. I never pursued a lawsuit because my dad (who I feared more than God himself at the time) figured I got what I deserved and he didn’t believe me (even after the hearing report came back). He himself, a former military man and believer in a different set of values than most, I had no choice but to let it go, I considered myself lucky to not have a criminal record at a young age. The stare I received from the detective who sat in the courtroom during the proceedings should have been a stark warning that this was not over. I had effectively told the world that this man took a stick to the sexual parts of a teenager and had made me deaf. As it turned out, this was not the first time he had been accused of abusing a youth in his custody…I was about to be made an example of how they deal with people like me.

After we got off of these charges, and before I was aware of the undercover who had been setting us up, there was an intense desire to “get me”. I had decided that I would walk the straight and narrow, I had learned my lesson; the police had a different plan altogether. Before they went full steam ahead to target me, they interfered with my relationship with a girlfriend who was one year my senior. She had provided stability and a diversion from hanging out with my friends, outside forces worked hard to successfully cause her to break up with me. Indirectly due to their interference, less than a year after we broke up she committed suicide, at the age of 18. These facts, were not known at the time but I learned of them much later…far too late to do anything. I attended her funeral without any knowledge of what was going on behind the scenes. It was after this tragic incident that they amplified their desire to ruin my life even more than before. Now they had to justify all that they had done, their actions contributing to the death of a young lady.


Without going into great detail this undercover attempted to engage me in everything under the sun, I rejected it all. The police tried to befriend me with different undercovers, pushed the idea of making money by selling drugs, stealing high tech equipment to make counterfeit credit cards, engage in armed robberies…all of which I rejected, I successful resisted all overtures during a period in ones life in which alliances with friends was most important.

What Americans, and in particular the FBI might be most interested in is that this undercover attempted to entrap me with the possibility of engaging in a counterfeit money business. He didn’t attempt to get me into the business using fake Canadian money; but instead he used AMERICAN counterfeit money as the incentive. I never engaged in this “offer” (thankfully), but I did see the currency with my own two eyes. Without a doubt it was not legitimate American money, though side by side both bills would be easily accepted by a store, especially in Canada where it is not as abundant and readily comparable. He attempted on numerous occasions to get me involved in this federal offense and for a kid in need of money he might have succeeded if I didn’t consider the consequences and decline the offer.
No friend of another nation would engage in an attack on the sovereign currency of another nation. It could be argued that this in itself is an act of war, the apparatus in Canada did not view it this way. This was simply another weapon in their arsenal in their ongoing attempts to destroy me.


After it was evident that I would not be involving myself in any criminal activities, the tactics changed. I am partly to blame for falling for this and I am angry at myself these many years later after I had successfully avoided any trouble.

One night while taking the train back from my part-time job, I was jumped and robbed by black youths. I was hospitalized after the attack. The culprits were never caught and I was livid, losing my front tooth and having my nose broken in the attack. Still a young man myself, angry and confused, I was given a phone number by someone who was supposed to be my friend. This phone number was to a White Supremist group called the Heritage Front.


Now I never joined the group, I did call them on one occasion but didn’t leave my name or show any further interest. In fact, I remarked to the “friend” who gave me this phone number that the voice on their answering machine made it sound cheesy and ridiculous. As it turned out, this phone number was to a group funded by CSIS (our CIA equivalent) and it was set up to essentially expose so-called “anti-semetic” and racist threats. I was never a member of this group, nor met any members in the group. Nor did I show any further interest outside of that ill-fated phone call during a time of anger. It was however the ridiculous smoking gun they needed. A man who had dated women of all nationalities, who had many friends of different races (living in a multicultural part of Toronto), I could now be labeled a “threat” due to ideology. The accusation is absolutely false, but having an ideological accusations ensures you will be in the "database" for life...my life was essentially ruined at this point.


In short I have had constant employment interference since graduation, this includes a job at IBM and a major Canadian bank. What many might find startling is that once again there was an attack by our security apparatus on America occurred. This time not by the use of counterfeit American money but via horrendous accusations which almost certainly were made in an effort to further misrepresent me.

An employee started at IBM less than a month after I was hired, this person was an undercover Canadian agent. After the attacks of 9/11 this agent immediately accused America of being involved in the 9/11 attacks after they occurred. In fact he took it a step further and suggested that this had to be an operation committed by either the CIA or Israel. I was so angered by this accusation that I almost got into a physical fight at work with this co-worker. 3000 people had just lost their lives and he was accusing America of committing this crime against themselves. I asked for a transfer out of his area as he constantly spoke about politics and conspiracies (among other attempts to have me fired). When I eventually left IBM I found out that I was placed on “non rehire”, even though I never had any argument with a manager and had been nominated for a prestigious sales award.


Regardless of what a regular citizen might believe about the attacks of 9/11, there is a HUGE difference when another nations intelligence agency is spreading such a “rumour” or accusation. Again, it is not the actions of a nation that would be considered an ally, regardless of their motivations. After some time, when I became aware of the Heritage Front being funded and lead by a CSIS agent, and with the help of some studious people that I started to unravel my situation. I began a very long battle with the establishment to clear my name.
I requested my “file” from CSIS and the RCMP. I received a file that only included my initial complaint to them, however, there was a section which they denied me access to due to “National Security” issues. Which neither confirms nor denies that there was any further pertinent details, but it COULD represent the information I needed. I threatened to sue, I contacted the prime ministers office and the public safety minister who oversees the security establishment. Noone would take ownership. I had little recourse other than to apply pressure through the media which would be difficult as I had been branded with an ideology I didn’t have.


The final straw in my saga happened in 2008 when I attempted to travel to the U.S with my wife. I was held at the border with my wife for 45 minutes, my passport was confiscated until further notice. Eventually we were allowed inside, when I asked the guard who returned my passport if there was a problem, he replied; and I quote: “not with us, you are free to go, but you might want to speak to your government. Have a nice day.”

Ironically, after years of contacting the RCMP and CSIS to access my file and obtain some accountability, it was an American border guard who thankfully; in the presence of my wife, provided the information I needed. I launched a lawsuit against the government as a sign of how lost the apparatus is on even the courts in this country, they forced me to name the queen as a defendant, I refused suggesting she had nothing to do with my situation, I was told if I didn’t include her name it would not go forward. “That’s just the way the process is”…that tells you everything about how backwards this system is. I named her along with the true offending agencies; CSIS and the RCMP.

When I launched this suit for employment interference, misrepresentation and violation of my Charter of Rights (Constitution in America) the starting money required to have a lawyer engaged in the process was $50,000. I could not afford this so I had to defend myself. As is law, the defendants had to enter a plea, they had 30 days to do so, I was aware that they might try to drag this process out, but being self represented it would only cost me my time. They did something I could never have expected, they let the plea time reach it’s final day before bombarding me with details about my “evidence.”

I made them aware that outside of my testimony that THEY had the evidence, it would be included in my dossier. I countered their request with a request of my own; I wanted my dossier for my defense. However, I gave them an out. They could avoid the entire $2 million lawsuit if they would simply state in writing that no dossier existed that included any espionage activities against me. They refused to do so. I requested the courts step in to force them to answer this basic question, since they refused to acknowledge their innocence or guilt, they were in essence looking to have the case thrown out by playing possum. Even in cases where the plantiff has accused the state of ridiculous actions such as implanting their brain with a bug of some sort, they have at least plead not guilty, in my case they avoided this altogether. They had the case thrown out without stepping into a courtroom due to the circumstantial merits of my evidence, however, I am able to pursue this suit down the road as the courts agreed my argument leaves room for "further discussion.” Furthermore, in a rare case the courts did not charge me for the courts and crowns time which usually runs into the thousands. I was told by a lawyer this might also allude to their belief in the validity of my claim.


Americans do not know how lucky they have it. I truly mean this. As a person who has visited America on a number of occasions there is a distinct difference in the freedoms you enjoy. You nation is far more Libertarian in the classical sense. Canada is not a republic, we have believed strongly in a centralized government that operates to control its citizens rather than to secure their safety. In America the system works for the people, they don’t feel they have a God ordained right to supreme power as they do in Canada. It has allowed the security apparatus to operate with no constraints, no danger of lawsuits or accountability except in extreme cases in which the plantiff can afford to fight back. The apparatus as a rule will generally avoid these people instead targeting poorer subjects.

I once read a posting on here of a man who had his car window smashed in. The FBI had incorrectly broke into his car when it was another car of the same make and colour they were after. What was startling to me was that the poster stated that a note was left by the FBI, acknowledging guilt, apologizing and offering to pay for the window. Why was I so surprised? In Canada I would be shocked if a federal officer would ever do such a thing and leave a note admitting fault. The security apparatus in Canada is truly feared, instead of being viewed as partners in protecting the country everyone is fearing for their own safety if they should ever be accused of anything.

I am certain that my story is not unique in Canada. The problem is that the vast majority of those who are suffering like I am don’t realize why. They simply accept that they lost their job because they are incompetent or due to “bad luck”. I have a strong belief in my ability so I never assumed this to be the case, luckily I was able to determine the entire story going back so many years, countless other Canadians don’t have a clue.

Can you imagine having your life ruined like I have although you have no record, have threatened noone, have jeopardized noones security? Can you imagine your system denying you the basic means to survive through employment interference all in an effort to protect their own asses?

Ultimately, I pray that stories like mine reach those in positions of power not in Canada, but in other nations. I have a file opened with the U.N regarding my situation, and even though I have not officially communicated with the FBI regarding what I know about this Canadian agent who was counterfeiting American currency, it is information I am sure they would want to know.

In America you have numerous agencies that are independently looking out for the interests of others. Agencies that are holding accountable organizations that dare violate any of your protected amendments. This is vastly different from Canada where people like myself have NO recourse, no alternatives to hold them accountable.

I thank you for your time. If anyone has any advice on what steps to take to clear my name I am all ears. Please just reply on here or send me a private message. As it stands now you do not have a legitimate and honest security ally in Canada.

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Response to shockedcanadian (Original post)

Fri Jun 8, 2012, 01:23 PM

1. Not to worry, based our our foreign policy trends, Canada will soon be our enemy....

... hell, almost everyone else already is. We'll just keep killing people who hate us until there aren't any more.

I guess then we'll have to start killing ourselves because there'll be no one else left.

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Response to shockedcanadian (Original post)

Fri Jun 8, 2012, 01:32 PM

2. paragraph 2 a perfect description of the USA police state apparatus, just say USA instead of Canada

"
Security is paramount in today’s day and age. Not only the terrorist threats, but also the usual espionage that is committed by foreign powers. My story may shed some light on why Canada; as an ally to the United States, should not be trusted nor be considered a dependable partner in the battle against these threats. The security apparatus in Canada from the municipal police to the federal level is inept, self-serving and as I learned extremely vindictive. It is a system that is based on protecting their power, careers, increasing their bloated budgets and avoiding embarrassment or outside “threats”, a minor concern on their agenda is protecting Canadians from legitimate threats; this is far down on their list of priorities. If they care little about Canada’s security, how much effort will they put forward to protecting America? I represent a threat only to their reputation as I confronted them with what I knew, this serves no one but a few selfish, vengeful careerists. As a sign of my faith in truth and transparency I would even be willing to give details to the FBI if requested to based on this posting. This is how enraged I am by the injustice I have faced and how I hope it enrages Americans to know how their sovereignty is being jeopardized by the security apparatus (I use the term lightly) to the North. "

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Response to shockedcanadian (Original post)

Fri Jun 8, 2012, 02:57 PM

3. ??????

 

Is this a joke?

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Response to Arctic Dave (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 9, 2012, 05:50 AM

4. Is this a serious question?

I wouldn't take all of that time to type up my personal circumstances in the interest of entertainment. Every word of my post is true. In fact, this post was the condensed version. I didn't even type up the specific conversations I had, nor the threat I received after I complained to the SIRC (the toothless oversight agency of CSIS). My wife was a witness to the threat I received. My wife was also present when we were held at the border and the guard advised me to contact my government. This in itself; the sharing of false information with another country is unacceptable.

Through understanding my circumstances I did a massive amount of research, read every book imaginable in regards to the apparatus in Canada (and other nations). The RCMP modeled their intelligence tactics after the East German Stasi in the 1970's. If you know anything about how they operated than you can understand why there are major democracy issues in Canada. The extent of persecution of Canadians is unmatched by the intelligence establishment, including a recent report that suggested that 85% of all residents in B.C had their name in an RCMP database. I wish I could find the link, I posted the article last year before the advent of the new D.U site. Even though they admitted that many of the names are based on thin relations with known felons and targets, they refused to "narrow down" those who were in the db. Would any such admittance of a DB that large be glossed over by American rights groups? I highly doubt it. Americans would storm the streets in protest.

In 1984 CSIS took over much of the covert operations from the RCMP. This was decided by Prime Minister Mulroney after the RCMP were caught red handed burning farms in Quebec and widespread agent provocateurs allegations. In effect, the same people who ran the covert arm of the RCMP also became leaders in CSIS. They simply quit and were rehired by CSIS. There is a close relationship between both organizations, simply presented as the Integrated National Security Enforcement Teams. According to the RCMP website this includes intelligence sharing at the border, with CSIS and provincial police. So in effect, if you are targetted by one entity all of the other entities are aware and can assist where needed. This multi level intelligence system in itself is some cause for concern, especially considering how much intelligence Canada shares with foreign nations.

If you have any specific questions about anything I typed please ask away, I would be happy to answer you. The persecution that I have experienced is not unique; not by a long shot. In fact, a Canadian businessman who was traveling in Arizona made headlines there when he went to the press about harassment he was experiencing by CSIS on American soil. I have stated it before and will continue to state that Canada cares little about intelligence; this is nothing but a high paying racket, manufacture threats, commit character assassinations if it benefits the "corporation. As a reasonable comparison, consider that the CIA suspected that Pakistan intelligence knew where Bin Laden was hiding but refused to report him to the Americans because as one agent put it, "it was extremely profitable to the Pakistani intelligence agents to have Bin Laden alive." Their government was throwing money at the Bin Laden search operation. Once he was caught, that money would dry up significantly...this is precisely how Canadian intel works. Keep the "boogeyman" label alive, and maintain funding and employment.

I think many Americans are shocked and surprised at how their "nice, friendly neighbour to the North" has such a powerful and ruthless intelligence apparatus acting against it's own citizens. Americans are so upset with the current degrading of their civil liberties, but this is a function of the fact that Americans enjoy the greatest freedoms. I challenge you to do some investigating on how many citizens coming from American soil; some American citizens many not, who were declined entry into Canada for no other reason than expressing an opinion that the establishment didn't like. This, after spending months speaking their mind on American soil.

A few years ago I cared little about politics, even less about the intelligence apparatus and it's mechanisms...this has changed out of necessity.

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Response to shockedcanadian (Original post)

Sat Jun 9, 2012, 08:52 AM

5. That's OK, we're not very reliable as allies either.

Sorry for your trouble. Unfortunately, the same sort of thing can happen to us here, from our own police state apparatus.

I have no advice, reason and accountability have nothing to do with this sort of thing.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 9, 2012, 12:03 PM

6. Your last sentence is absolutely correct

Reason and accountability are non existent. I imagine there may be instances in which protection of the apparatus becomes paramount in America (such as if they are aware that their interference caused the suicide of a young woman), but there are a few major differences. The primary one in my opinion is that America has to deal with legitimate enemies. They have no time to run around and create b.s threats because there are far too many legitimate dangers lurking and need to be addressed.

Whether it is fighting a Cold War, the spread of Communism or as is the case now, terrorist threats, America has had to answer the bell to real concerns. There may be varying opinions of whether this is right or wrong, if they go overboard etc. but at least you can feel comfort in knowing that you; an American citizen, will not be the target of petty vengeful actions by the establishment for twenty years. The CIA and FBI simply cannot waste time money and resources chasing rabbits or pursuing personal grudges against teenagers because it would legitimately place the country at risk. This is patriotism and commitment to their constituents; pride in doing what is right in a country that is far older and independent than Canada. Certainly you will have a few bad apples, but in a smaller population in Canada with essentially NO oversight or accountability, such bad apples are the dominant breed. Their primary objective is to keep themselves busy, especially considering that the number of real threats in Canada is minute compared to the U.S.

What is astonishing to me, in my personal interactions, is that this drive; this perverted need to destroy another citizen for their own gain really has no boundaries. Is it ok for a federal Canadian agency to use counterfeit money of another sovereign ally as a method to entrap their own citizens? Is it acceptable for a Canadian agent to encourage ideology and spread rumours of their largest trading partner implicating them as responsible for the death of thousands of their own citizens after 9/11? I can tell you, I was extremely angry hearing what this undercover was telling me (before I was even aware he worked for CSIS), if I heard that American agents were doing the same after a Canadian tragedy I would be just as angry.

Here is something to consider. Let's assume that Canadian agents are spreading false rumours about how evil America and the CIA are. Some nutjob who is already looking for a reason to hate something or someone takes the bait, hook line and sinker. Who is to say that this person does not attempt to cause harm to Americans based on the hatred that was bred by Canadian agents? I don't know enough about the U.S establishment to rule it our completely, but I would be shocked if American CIA or FBI agents were carelessly causing the same harm to Canada. Ultimately, if someone in the U.S had been persecuted as I have there would be multiple sources of independent organizations to turn to for assistance; in Canada there are none.

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Response to shockedcanadian (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:28 PM

7. you are a crook

 

The paragraph below says it all. You were creating criminal acts as a 17 year old and you want sympathy.
You should have joined the army or gone to a juvenile work camp.

My story and the roundabout way in which it affects American security started when I was 17. An undercover officer at my high school befriended myself and others in “smash and grabs”. He was the ringleader, driving us to different locations. During the arrest I refused to speak without access to my parents or a lawyer, I was never disrespectful nor impolite as I always respected authority, but being a naïve believer in the rule of law, I was not only denied this right, but I was severely beaten with a stick to my groin and I was rendered deaf in one ear due to the beating I received.

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Response to sarahpalinlovesme (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 1, 2012, 07:01 AM

8. I resent your use of the term, if you subscribe to this you need to objectively re-read my posts

I committed the "crime" of "following the leader". An adult undercover befriended and manufactured business for himself by befriending kids (this is the security apparatus M.O in Canadian). He was agent provacateur who engaged in entrapment and creating "opportunity" to a bunch of teenagers for the benefit of the police services and his misguided career. As punishment I was rendered deaf with permanent tinnitus to boot. All at the hands of these courageous (cough cough) crime fighters. They saved noone, they protected no property, they were the purveyors of the activity; the guiding hand, the main benefactors. I am not a criminal, I was acquitted of all accusations at the time.

As it stands I have no criminal record. Nor have I had any accusations laid against me since. Meanwhile, a former 18 year old girl committed suicide due to the actions of the apparatus. Meanwhile I have suffered for 20 years with employment interference, threats, problems at the border even though I have not even so much as jay walked, nor threatened anyone. As for your suggestion regarding the military, I applied while in University, that is how strongly I feel about sacrifice to country. If I had been born an American you can be sure I would not have experienced any of my troubles, in fact, quite the opposite, I would have been able to apply my hard work ethic and education without interference by those sworn to protect democracy as they work to suppress it.

You might want to apply the same judgement of myself to those who create business for themselves at great costs to the taxpayer. You might want to apply the same judgement to adults in positions of power who scour communities looking for those kids and young adults they can manipulate for their own gain, for their own justification of their budgets and activities. For their own sick and perverted ideology which they formed by watching Dirty Harry movies. You might want to apply judgement into the criminal acts committed by adults on teenagers. I would gladly have faced the punishment for the so-called accusations against me if the state would have been willing to accept punishment for beating me with a stick to the groin and causing my hearing disability. I definitely received the worst in that transaction and again I repeat for effect, I have no criminal record.

How about some judgement of the intelligence agency that regularly attacks and shows disdain for their security partner and largest trading partner; the United States. How about some judgement of the gross misuse, abuse and manipulation of funds by the Canadian apparatus that actually risks MORE security threats to Canada AND the United States than it prevents. How about applying some perspective into what is considered democracy and Libertarian values versus totalitarian covert methods aimed at providing gain to the establishment.

The targeting of me 20 years after an acquittal for a relatively minor action set-up by the police has nothing to do with democracy, security or fighting crime. It has everything to do with saving one's ass and reputation. If you agree with the actions taken against me; actions best suited for countries like the former East Germany and the U.S.S.R, than I will gladly trade citizenship with you; Canada would be your Utopia.

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Response to sarahpalinlovesme (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 22, 2012, 11:15 PM

9. Wow. One and done.

We really need a better class of trolls.

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Response to ElboRuum (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 01:54 PM

10. Thanks for pointing this out

I wouldn't have even realized it otherwise. Someone decided their first post would be to attack my post; imagine that.

Considering my circumstances I sometimes find it a challenge believing in coincidences.

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Response to shockedcanadian (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:30 PM

11. No answers. Only questions about resonance, though it is possible that careerists ARE beating that

drum, so it's not really a "chicken or the egg" question, though it DOES look like one.

Have lately experience some distinct Canadian attitude against Obama lately; you seem to offer perspective.

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Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:14 AM

12. Had to read your post

Thank you for sharing your story. I have been looking at posts with many views and yours fit the bill. It was a long read but I am glad I read it.

I am astonished at your story, and I cannot lie that it surprises me as I do visit Canada fairly often. For what it is worth, I can tell you that if you still are part of this community: I believe you. Your story makes sense as much as it is "shocking" as per your name it is obvious you care a heck of a lot about your situation, this is understandable.

Have you tried contacting American Civil Rights groups? Such as the ACLU or the like. They might be able to assist you. Without a doubt you should be pursuing legal representation, I admire you sharing this and I feel for you, but you have to find a way to challenge this. Stories like yours have to be heard or others will face the same problem one way or another. Media outlets, blogs, twitter, facebook, everything and anything needs to be explored

Finally, I visit family in British Columbia every 2 years or so. I am being sincere when I state that I am going to reconsider doing so, even if it means going every 3 years instead of every second year. I will do my small part to not feed the monster. All the best for you. Please update us, or even just send a message to me and let me know how this all works out for you.

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Fri May 10, 2013, 03:26 PM

13. Thank you kindly for the response Sally.

I had not been on of late, and when I have I generally post in the "Canada" forum. I thank you kindly for the suggestions and the support, I did not mean to ignore your comments at all.

In regards to the ACLU I did contact them but did not receive a response. I was inquiring if they might be able to assist someone outside of the U.S, but still in North America. As with any organization; it isn't about my support of their approach per se, but having my own personal issue dealt with as it should in a democratic country. They are quite a presence in the battle for human rights and accountability. I am not the best in regards to social media, though I admit should be. I am not skilled at rallying support, and in some ways my own feelings of despair and pride prevent me from making this is huge issue, though I will most likely need to learn how to cope with this as my situation does not appear to be changing for the better.

I will continue to fight and expose what I know; to the last granular detail if required...as it stands, I have contacted organizations OUTSIDE of Canada as I feel they can make the biggest difference. Whether human rights groups, economic groups (i.e trade) or legal institutions I have been FORCED to gain assistance from anyone, anywhere I can and to make sure that there are ramifications for what I have suffered through. As far as I am concerned, when dealing with the Security Apparatus in Canada, it is akin to dealing with the former East Germans; there is a wall placed between Canada and countries such as America, England and France; countries which are legitimately free, open societies based on rule of law, history and a much higher degree of accountability and demands from their apparatuses. If one reads the published material, there is no doubt the secrecy laws and engagement of these laws in Canada puts us quite a ways behind these mentioned nations.

It appears to me that the campaign against me is going to be "financially driven" now that their character assassination tactics have reached their limits (for now). Meaning they will attempt to dry me financially due to work interference and the like. In turn; as has happened in the past with former CSIS agent John Farrell who wrote a damning book about CSIS when they engaged in the same financial busting tactics, I will pursue all necessary actions to obtain accountability, and; as John did, look to put my entire story down so that others can understand precisely the dishonest, illegal and ghoulish methods embraced by the police in this country.

Thanks a great deal, to you or anyone who has taken an interest, whether in spirit or through yours words. It has been a very difficult time for myself and my wife.

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Fri Jul 26, 2013, 11:40 AM

14. Latest update...FOIA request in America...

Hello again all. I wish I had happy news to provide, but at least there is progress, more details being unraveled in what is an immense travesty and as undemocratic a persecution as one can experience in a so-called democratic country. I am getting alot of views for this posting and growing support and attention to my plight. I thank all of you who have shown some support and who understand the gravity of the situation. You don't know just how much it means to me and my family.

I haven't updated this thread in some time because all of the efforts I have been involved in are done by reaching out to various politicians and people of influence. I now how something concrete, and has provided another vital direction which I have to go in to have the injustices against me addressed.

I made a request to the American Border Patrol regarding the holding and confiscation of my passport in 2009. I made the FOIA request many years later (a few months ago) as I was unsure of the process, assuming that everything I needed was to be provided by Canadian authorities; agencies that have proven to be far more secretive than more transparent and Constitutionally based countries (Canada talks a great game when it comes to freedoms, be sure, the Charter is regularly and freely abused).

So, the response I received was a redaction of the information based on two different premises and key exemptions which they enacted: 1) "protects records compiled for law enforcement purposes, the release of which would disclose techniques and/or procedures for law enforcement investigations or prosecutions, or would disclose guidelines for law enforcement investigations or prosecutions if such disclosure could reasonably be expected to risk circumvention of the law." 2) protects records or information compiled for law enforcement purposes.

So ultimately what the U.S Border is doing is protecting the identities of the Canadian agencies involved in my persecution, in effect, admitting that this holding was not random at all (which is rarely ever is) and based on information provided by the security apparatus. Based on my appeal which they have since rejected and released no further information of my initial request and the discussion I had with the border guard on the U.S side; in which he told me that "we don't have a problem with you but you might want to speak to your government", it is evident that there is some "law enforcement" agency interested in me and further impeding my freedoms, this time via mobility rights. The obvious question would be "why"? I have no criminal record, no accusations against me, no charges, I am married, I pay my taxes, I follow the law...this is an obvious case of my own country caught being overzealous, and for some reason they attempted to have me held at an International border to avoid flight based on the accusations I have made to the powers that be and the lawsuit which followed.

The crux of this entire persecution; of being treated like a war criminal in my own nation, one in which I am going to work hard to get into the media's eyes, is based some arbitrarily, illegal, vexation and secretive directive by the state to keep me silent and for themselves to avoid accountability.

I now have to take the step I wanted to avoid and take the DHS through litigation in order to have a judge force them to reveal the facts behind the harrowing experience I had at the border. I have been very clear with the DHS about my respect for American justice and even acknowledged their right to defend their border, one which I wholeheartedly agree with. This denial of facts serves neither of these purposes however, and unfortunately I need to have my voice heard in Washington. At the very least I will finally get my day in court, Canada can no longer silence what I have experienced without an experienced judge hearing about my plight and FURTHER interference.

I will keep you all updated. Thanks again for all the support; silent and otherwise!

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