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Fri Jan 20, 2012, 07:21 PM

Just looking for input.

What are your nominations for words or phrases used by the pro-control side?

I'll start this off with one of my favorites: "...Awash in guns."


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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)


Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 10:19 PM

6. two of the all time greats.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 08:04 PM

2. "reasonable gun control" usually means a total ban.

"For the Children!"
"What do you need that for"
"It's what European countries do"

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

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Response to oneshooter (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 01:21 AM

43. Variation: "Common sense gun control", which usually means the same thing.

 

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 08:26 PM

3. I've been reading a while and I wonder why "gun nut" is fine but "gun grabber" is verboten.

 

I guess that's how it goes...

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Response to Bill O-Rights (Reply #3)


Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 09:27 PM

5. thank you I'm treading very carefully I think

 

haha

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Response to Bill O-Rights (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 09:29 PM

12. I've yet to see a post hidden or deleted for simply saying "gun grabber"

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 09:40 PM

13. Try on DU2..

For a while both terms were verbotten.

Now you just have to convince 4 random DU'ers.

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 10:11 PM

17. Which just goes to show...

...how bad the state of civility is in this forum.

I've been on 61 juries and have only thought the jury got it wrong 2 times. That's pretty good IMHO. I like the new system

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 03:12 PM

7. "Bullet hose." Water restrictions being what they are in Texas, I'll take anything. nt

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Response to SteveW (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 06:02 PM

9. Now that one is slightly obscure.

Thanks

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #9)

Sun Jan 22, 2012, 04:07 PM

23. My (garden) hoses are full of dirt-dauber detritus anyway. nt

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 04:40 PM

8. "Spray firing from the hip"

That's a good one.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 06:31 PM

10. "Responsible" toter.

Another piece of work from antis, usually with sarcasm thingy: Standing in line at Chuck E Cheez is so dangerous, one needs to pack a gun or two.


You watch, some gun cultist will come along and say that the "overwhelming majority" of those with a permit are "responsible." Actually, that is not true -- take Zimmerman as one example, he's walking around with a gun thinking he is responsible, then he sees an unarmed Black kid (you know they scary people) and he murders him for no reason other than he can. Or howsabout the dad who leaves his toter out for his 3 year old son to shoot himself. Or the yahoo who serves as a role model for impressionable kids by struting around with his lethal fashion accessory. Or the fool who has his guns stolen to be used in crime. Or another fool who cares more about assuaging his poor pitiful fears, and not society. Gun cultists are not "responsible," despite what they tell themselves because they fear losing their access to guns.

Finally, I will guarantee that the vast majority of society that doesn't need to carry a gun to venture out of their compound are far less likely to be irresponsible with a gun -- mainly because they take the responsible approach and leave the friggin things at home or on the shelves at gun stores.

Again, they will tell you the Zimmermans don't count. But they - just like Zimmerman - claim to be responsible right up until they aren't. And then when they become irresponsible, they'll claim they don't count.

Again, the 90+% of society who would never think of toting a gun in public, are clearly more responsible with respect to guns than those selfish gun cultists who won't leave home without a gun or two, or who encourage others to do so.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #10)

Tue May 8, 2012, 10:40 PM

70. CC

Hoyt,

In a lot of areas, people get concealed carry permits not so much because they plan to carry every day, or even regularly, but because occasionally they go places where police are twenty minutes away. Not everyone lives in the burbs.

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Response to Rittermeister (Reply #70)

Tue May 8, 2012, 10:54 PM

71. Some do. Some are so irrational they carry everywhere.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #71)

Tue May 8, 2012, 10:59 PM

72. Some do

I come from an extremely red area of the south, with a ton of guns and a ton of cc permits. In my entire life, I can only think of a single person who didn't work in the firearms industry (for some reason, every gun shop employee seems to carry) who carried on an every day basis. I would suggest that you might be overestimating the number of people who can't go to the bathroom without a handgun.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #71)

Tue Jul 10, 2012, 03:12 PM

87. That intervening space between your safe origin and safe destination is so inconvenient, isn't it? n

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #71)

Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:20 PM

89. I even carry mine in the toilet

 

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 10, 2012, 10:38 AM

86. You struggled in math classes, didn't you?

Especially with things like ratios and proportions...

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:32 PM

132. AKA: the overwhelming majority.

Happy to point that out...

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:15 PM

137. Zimmerman is hardly an example of the majority of people who have a concealed carry permit ...

in Florida.

Currently 1,033,849 people have valid Florida concealed weapons permits in our nation and 909,260 are held by Florida residents. Since the program began in October 1987 a total of 2,372,788 permits have been issued yet only 168 have been revoked for a crime involving the use of a firearm after the license was issued.

(http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/news/reports.html
http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/stats/cw_active.pdf)

From what I understand of the shooting, I feel Zimmerman murdered Martin. However I do support our system of justice and believe that it is superior to trial by the media. Zimmerman will have his day in court and a jury will consider all the evidence and determine his guilt or innocence.

I realize that you are on a mission to ban legal concealed carry in our nation which is fine with me but somewhat like Don Quixote tilting against windmills. I often wonder why you never mention improving and better enforcing laws to stop violent criminals from carrying concealed handguns.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 08:02 PM

11. "packing a gun or two" n/t

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 10:02 PM

15. Yep, that really is absurd in a modern society.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 10:07 PM

16. how is "modern society"

in the US different than Europe 90 years ago? Other than technology and population how is today's society that much different than back then?

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #16)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 01:09 AM

42. S/he says......

....typing away on the computer, watching TV, having a cold beer from the fridge, while adjusting the lighting in the room. LOL.

Good grief.....are you seriously suggesting that today's gun is no different from then?

Oh remind.......






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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #42)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 10:41 AM

45. for the most part

handguns are not. Other than materials, some mechanical innovations, and manufacturing processes, not really. You missed the point.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #45)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 02:19 PM

50. No I Got It

You say ' Other than materials, some mechanical innovations, and manufacturing processes, not really.'

That's all? Gosh.....I think you made my point.

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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #50)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 03:20 PM

52. not really

because I thought you were talking about basic function, firing rates, power etc. Besides, many of the same designs and models are still used. IIRC, the Walter PPK has been in continuous production since the 1930s. Then there is the 1911.............. or any revolver.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #52)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 03:43 PM

53. The 1911...

 

...shooting a bullet designed in 1904...

9mm designed 1901
.22LR designed 1887
.38 Special designed 1898



Such thoroughly modern ammunition...

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Response to Clames (Reply #53)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 09:06 PM

55. Of course.

The joys of mature technology.

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Response to Clames (Reply #53)

Tue May 8, 2012, 11:02 PM

73. Most of the firearms advances that have occurred since WW2

were related to manufacturing processes. Guns can be produced quicker and cheaper than they were 100 years ago, but the practical advantages are negligible. A Mauser-Oberndorf sporter from 1910 will still shoot the tits off a boar at 500 yards.

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 31, 2012, 03:55 PM

29. Just look at any post from hoyt and it should be included in this list

 

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 09:56 PM

14. Esteemed couleage Xdigger once had a list...

"all gun owners must be required to join the militia, like the constitution says nt"
"all gun owners should be required to join the militia, as the constitution says nt"
"gun owners should be required to join the militia - "A well regulated militia being necessary..." nt"
"all gun owners must be required to join the militia, like the constitution says nt"
"are you in the militia as required by the second amendment? nt"
"you only have a right to a gun if you're in the militia per 2nd amendment nt"
"if you're in the militia you have the right to bear arms nt"


"fear of a black president nt"
"gun sales soar as first BLACK president is sworn in - gee wonder who's rushing the gun stores? nt"
" having a black president has way jackkked up gun sales. hmm wonder why? nt"
"fear of a black president + right wing media hysteria egging things on nt"
"racist gun wingnuts and fear of a black president - great for business eh gun shops? nt"
"gun whackos run amok using fear of a black president nt"
" fear of a black president run amok nt"
"fear of a black president by a group which is full of racists lol nt"
"lol sales are way up amongst the fear of a black president crowd...WAY up amongst racists nt"
"fear of a black president is doing wonders for the gun industry nt"
"did they tell you a BLACK man is now president n u should run out n buy guns? nt"
"fear of black president - go out and buy lots more guns nt"
"fear of a black president is swelling your ranks for the most part imo nt"
"driven by fear of a black president, gun sales have soared in the USA nt"


"the toddler was just excercising his 2nd amendment rights IF he was in the militia nt"
"nuclear weapons are "arms". every 6 year old should have some nt"
"should be legal for 5 yr olds to carry at day care centers, after all, the constitution"
"constitutution does not prohibit 5 yr olds from owning guns. free guns for all apt. kids nt"
"guns for everyone, serial killers, 5 years olds, nut cases - constitutional rights ya know nt"
"children have a right to own and shoot guns anytime they wish. no bidg deal really nt"
"students have a constitutional right to carry guns at school...there is no age listed in the"
"all kids should be allowed to carry to school - 2nd amendment does NOT probhibit this nt"
"kids at elementary school should be allowed to carry guns, 2nd amnd. doesnt say adults only nt"
"yes the 2nd amendment allows 6 year olds to take guns to school so lets allow that too nt"
"2nd amendment does not prohibit gun ownership by 8 year olds anywhere they go nt"

"crazies n nuts have a constitutional right to own and use guns too nt"
" legalize al weapons - convicted felons have a constitutional right to guns ya know nt"
"parolees, probationers, nuts, serial killers - everyone has the right to own guns . "
" the constitution does NOT bar serial killers from owning guns...or 4 year olds either nt"
"2nd amendment does NOT prohibit guns on airplanes or in the hands of criminals nt"
"2nd amendment does NOT prohibit felons or 5 year olds from owning guns nt"
"criminals have a constitutional right to carry guns on airplanes - not prevented by 2nd amendment nt"
"terrorists have a right to carry guns on planes, not prohibited by 2nd amendment. nt"
"terrorists have a 2nd amnd. right to carry guns on planes - not prohibited ya know nt"
"terroristsRKBA rights are denied when they cannot open carry on airliners nt"
"terrorists & serial killers have 2nd amendment rights too ya know. nt"
"prohibiting guns on airplanes and in schools = anti-RKBA bigotry right? nt"
"unlimited protection = terrorist RKBA rights to take guns on airplanes nt"
"the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed for any reason at all ever lol nt"

"no righteous killing to get off on in this one? nt"
"let all those gangbangers shoot a bunch of kids - its their righteous killing rights nt"
"so will the resident gun lovers call this another "righteous killing"? stay tuned ..... nt"
"is this another "righteous killing" for the gun crowd to celebrate? nt"
" "another righteous shoot" ..... jesus loves u anyway nt"
"another "righteous killing" for sure - after all that's what guns are FOR nt"
"oh this one is not righteous enough for u lololol. nt"
"the righteous killings are wonderful if a gun is used crowd disagree with you nt"
"another righteous killing in gun land...oh wait, the kid didnt die....yet nt"

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Sat Jan 21, 2012, 10:22 PM

18. Come now...

...is that all you have???

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 10:24 PM

19. That was from one person..

whose idiotic one-liners were worthy of collecting.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2012, 09:46 AM

20. I just wanted to add...

..."they immediately get attacked by an email tree of NRA types."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sun Jan 22, 2012, 12:55 PM

21. Glock, or AK47

Every pistol is a Glock. Every long gun an AK47.

Because they're scary.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #21)

Sun Jan 22, 2012, 12:57 PM

22. Yeaaahhhh!

I need an AK and at least 2 Glocks.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #22)

Sun Jan 22, 2012, 10:09 PM

24. make mine a G36 and G23

any old ak clone for a plinker will do...

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Response to ileus (Reply #24)

Sun Jan 22, 2012, 11:21 PM

25. I personally...

...would prefer the G23.

I heard the Bulgarian SA93s were reliable, accurate, tough and ugly.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #22)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 08:15 PM

138. I personally dislike Glocks because most have a double stack magazine ...

which makes accurate target shooting for me more difficult as I have small hands. I also find them somewhat ugly when compared to a 1911 Colt .45 pistol. However I will admit that they are reliable, easy to clean and accurate.

I am primarily a "wheel gunner" as I prefer revolvers for casual target shooting and self defense. However mastering the double action trigger pull of a revolver is far more difficult than mastering a Glock. The Glock comes from the factory with a 5 lb trigger pull while the double action trigger pull of a S&W revolver may run 12 pounds.

It's also easy to change the trigger pull weight of a Glock to make it lighter or heavier as a Glock has a drop in trigger system that only takes minutes to replace and is reliable. It is more complicated to improve a S&W revolver trigger and often requires a good gun smith if you wish to end up with a reliable firearm.

At this time I have no real reason to own an assault style rifle but I may decide to buy a rifle similar to the AR-15 in the future if I move to a more rural area. Like the Glock they are easy to modify to fit the needs of the owner.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:50 PM

26. Just today I saw...

..."...the sickness that the gun pushers promote in our society."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:00 PM

27. Not only "awash in guns" but...

..."The real reality is this nation is awash in hand guns."

Not just the apparent reality mind you.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:43 PM

28. Bullet clips

 

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Response to Remmah2 (Reply #28)

Tue Jan 31, 2012, 04:21 PM

30. I think I have/had one of those!

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Jan 31, 2012, 07:23 PM

31. Gun control works

Cop killer bullets
Registration will reduce crime
Bullet fingerprinting will reduce crime
loophole

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Jan 31, 2012, 09:41 PM

32. "Gun nuts" is back in vogue


now that "unbiased" DU juries allow slurs from pro-restriction members.

I wonder if posts containing the descriptor "hoplophobe" would be hidden or allowed to remain?

Hmmmm.........

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Response to Simo 1939_1940 (Reply #32)

Tue May 8, 2012, 05:55 PM

67. They are about as good as real juries...

Hint: Take a bench trial.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Feb 2, 2012, 01:13 PM

33. "...the gun culture thinks Randy Weaver was/is a saint."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Feb 8, 2012, 03:58 PM

34. found today: "...all guns sales are subject to federal background checks."

Not so as far as I know.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:22 PM

35. an oldie but a goodie...

"untraceable plastic guns"

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Feb 8, 2012, 09:45 PM

36. How about "...bad advice written to tailor to the gun nuttery of white suburbanites."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Feb 8, 2012, 11:19 PM

37. "That shoulder thing...

 

...that goes up..."



Get's me every time.

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Response to Clames (Reply #37)

Thu Feb 9, 2012, 02:15 AM

38. Yeah, that's a scream!

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Feb 11, 2012, 02:46 AM

39. Here's the next one...

"...nuclear capability, and the 2nd Amendment guarantees it."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:39 AM

40. It's been awhile but...

...this needed inclusion:

Just What I Thought

Cowards.

LOL.


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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 01:03 AM

41. How about .......

Guns kill......unless of course you buy one to 'defend' yourself and the guns don't kill: people do.

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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #41)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:39 PM

48. Hmmm...

Interesting. Kind of an oxymoron but interesting.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 01:27 AM

44. Let's not forget "Saturday Night Special"!

 

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Response to Johnny Rico (Reply #44)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:32 PM

47. I remember that song.

Kind of a memorial to the idea "media based legislation". What ever made the news on Sunday night, is proposed to be made illegal on Monday.


...got a barrel that's blue and cold...

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 11:38 AM

46. "strap-on,

bullet-clip-magazine-semi-automatic-assault-bullet-hose-nobody-needs, spraying-fire-from-the-hip-NRA-Republican-gun-nut-murder-fantasy-blood-in-the-streets-common-sense-gun-control-won't-somebody-think-of-the-children?"

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Response to montanto (Reply #46)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:42 PM

49. Well at least...

...you fit the "children" in there.

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Response to montanto (Reply #46)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 02:38 PM

51. You forgot

Plastic guns, the shoulder thing that goes up and heat seeking bullets

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 05:23 PM

54. "Blood in the streets", "Return to the wild west"

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 09:12 PM

56. the most original one I have seen

"prancing around with their guns hanging out"

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sun Mar 4, 2012, 04:55 AM

57. This thread is not complete without...



and

?w=397&h=666

and

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:22 AM

58. You have to distrust lots of people to routinely strap on a gun before venturing out.

This is just such a gem.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 01:34 PM

59. OMG!!!!!

The DEATH MERCHANTS!!!! Why can't we stop them.


The evil NRA, they block all the good sensible gun laws, that protect the children
and kittens, from doushebag gunslingers.

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Response to Oneka (Reply #59)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 03:47 PM

60. ...DEATH MERCHANTS...

To misquote the character played by Eamonn Walker 'I prefer it my way, Merchant of Death.'

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 06:14 PM

61. Can't believe no one has mentioned...

"shell casings."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 02:03 PM

62. On today's hit parade:

"laissez-faire gun ownership"

Thank you all for your contributions!

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Apr 5, 2012, 10:20 PM

63. For today I saw:

"...Zimmermans waiting for the 'perfect storm.'"

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:22 PM

64. A new favorite: "...typical a RW talking point..."

Such air filled mental hors d'oeuvres!

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2012, 05:16 PM

65. "...nonsense from the gun religonists..."

...is today's new time waste.

cheers

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2012, 05:53 PM

66. "Promenade"

referring to concealed carry

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Response to Callisto32 (Reply #66)

Tue May 8, 2012, 09:02 PM

68. That sounds...

...formal!

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue May 8, 2012, 10:20 PM

69. "High powered (assault) rifle" ... an oxymoron by definition.

 

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Response to OneTenthofOnePercent (Reply #69)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:28 AM

74. Absolutely!

A jumbo shrimp if ever I heard one.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue May 29, 2012, 01:10 AM

75. "gun violence charities"

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #75)

Wed May 30, 2012, 12:09 AM

76. never heard that one n/t

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #77)

Wed May 30, 2012, 12:52 AM

78. clever... I guess?

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 01:31 PM

79. rampant gun ownership

Makes some valid points in other areas, overall...........ironic or just hypocritical?
http://www.nyconsulate.prchina.org/eng/xw/t935226.htm

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #79)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:34 PM

80. As if "rampant gun ownership"

...was a crime!

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Jun 2, 2012, 10:30 PM

81. "high powered assault rifle" has to be my favorite.

 

Really now? So what is a .338 Lapua? An extry special high powered rifle?

Another favorite of mine is the whole "Gun as a penis" line of thinking. Really? I urinate out of my penis, I have a gun for self protection. I fail to see any connection.

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Response to Cronkite (Reply #81)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:58 AM

82. Raufoss, Lapua, BMG...

These are terms whose significance is lost on most of the public. It has been my experience that any general details of ballistics are held as some mix of boring and complex. Specific details of works authored by experts such as Dr. Roberts for example: < http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2008Intl/Roberts.pdf > among others, are viewed the same way with somewhat gruesome overtones. The idea that scientific means exist to design and evaluate the incapacitating effects of a weapon system is disgusting and contrary to the beliefs of many in the anti-gun camp.

IMHO:
- "High powered assault rifle" has origins similar to "double secret probation". A high powered rifle is a "bad" thing. An assault rifle is a "bad" thing. Form a conjunction of those terms and the object described has to be a "worse" thing.
- Often, the worst inaccuracies are perpetrated when those credentialed, charismatic and popular writers and speakers publicize their emotion based opinions.

It is an odd mixture of my own feelings to view these anti-gun pundits with anger, sympathy and pity; anger for trying to teach others based on their emotional prejudices, sympathy for their ideological goals and pity for the knowledge of their rather certain self-frustration of their cause.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:05 AM

83. I would like to see the Other Side start a thread listing their nominations

for words or phrases used by the 2A side.

I suggest that Push button words for either side be avoided in order to further discussion, out of respect for both sides.

I know that we have tried to turn it all around and embrace these words as terms of endearment but, it confuses the rest of DU and I think it keeps other DUers from participating in this group. They don't understand and are afraid of being misunderstood.

It is not helping us to obtain our goal of electing Democrats.




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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #83)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:10 AM

84. Seems fair...

...to me.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2012, 10:53 PM

85. Here's a good one: "I think it's hilarious...

...how the Talking Points of the gun-religionists are so coordinated."



Oh... P.S....

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:09 PM

88. "Emboldened by possession of a gun to commit this crime."

Another prize bit anti terminology.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:24 PM

90. "Sometimes things are clear without the need to study them"

 

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Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #90)

Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:33 PM

91. The idea of a study aversion...

...fits well with a quote I just found:

"The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside." - Allan Bloom

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:19 PM

92. Taking a new direction...

...we have: "Delicate Flowers..."

Why how pleasant! Must be the Old Spice.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:35 AM

93. Oh... I forgot...

"Gun porn"

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:36 PM

94. An often repeated line...

..."A Gun in the Home Actually Makes You Less Safe"

Of course so does a bathtub, you may hit your head and drown.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 03:03 PM

95. this is just...

...well you know.

"Guns are safer than soft feathers"

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Sep 20, 2012, 06:10 PM

96. One of the regular favorites:

"...too scared to leave the house..."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:18 PM

97. "indirect" effects of gun proliferation

A blast from the past.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 02:47 PM

98. Making the list today is...

..."Hidden Criminal"

really!

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 06:29 PM

99. Funny one

Guns are manufactured for only one reason and that is to kill

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Response to locks (Reply #99)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 07:14 PM

100. funny

BTW, welcome

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 07:27 PM

101. I've been getting to exercise the "trash this thread button" a lot lately.

Just thought DU needed to know.

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Response to geckosfeet (Reply #101)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 07:36 PM

102. I've adopted that as...

...my index finger's commitment to exercise, as of 1 October. I think of trashing what I don't want to read any more of as kind of pruning the roses.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:12 PM

103. From today...

...I see a uniquely qualified claim:
Sounds like an Urban Legand to me


Yeah; right!

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:33 AM

104. Never at a loss for words

The pro-control group offers: "Pro-killing machiners"

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:55 PM

105. Has anyone suggest: "one strike you're out"?

Just wondering.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:14 PM

106. assault weapon.

1) Assault weapon is a pejorative, and technically inaccurate as used by journalists and lawmakers. Assault weapon = full auto capable (machine gun). Ignorance and deception, rather than education and information, result.

It's also annoying to use Nazi diction, from which assault weapon/assault rifle is derived: "Sturm gewehr"

I object to the Nazi mindset, vocabulary (legitimate sporting purpose, master race, sub-humans, useless eaters, etc.), and contempt for human freedom. And that is why I am personally very particularly jealous of OUR Bill of Rights.

Simply, it's the Goebbels big lie technique whereby gun control people subvert the meaning of words: by naming semi automatic rifles by the pejorative "assault weapon". This is intended to stifle debate, to confuse and prejudice readership/listenership.

Ultimately, it won't matter WHAT technology is on the chopping block. In our grandfather's time, it was full auto. In our time, it's semi automatics. At this rate, our grandchildren will be lucky to argue over whether or not they can keep muskets at home.

Think of the divide and conquer strategy which stripped Englishmen of their guns- it took several years, and several bites, but that aspect of English freedom is nearly extinct.

Not here, and not on my watch. My grandson will be free.



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Response to Francis Marion (Reply #106)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:03 PM

107. I am not a subject, I am a free man.

Many orators and writers have said this much better than I ever could.

On the negative side:
-Adolf Hitler: "The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms."
-Mao Tse Tung: "All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party."

On the positive side:
-The Dalai Lama: "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun."
-Professor Joyce Lee Malcolm: "The Second Amendment was meant to accomplish two distinct goals…First, it was meant to guarantee the individual’s right to have arms for self-defense and self-preservation. These privately owned arms were meant to serve a larger purpose as well…and it is the coupling of these two objectives that has caused the most confusion. The customary American militia necessitated an armed public…the militia (being)…the body of the people. The argument that today’s National Guardsmen, members of a select militia, would constitute the only persons entitled to keep and bear arms has no historical foundation."
-Daniel Webster: "Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority…the Constitution was made to guard against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
-Patrick Henry: "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined…The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
-Thomas Jefferson: "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
-George Mason: "To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
-Thomas Aquinas: "Without doubt one is allowed to resist against the unjust aggressor to one’s life, one’s goods or one’s physical integrity; sometimes, even ’til the aggressor’s death."
-Augustine of Hippo: "Though defensive violence will always be ‘a sad necessity’ in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men."
-"But now whoever has a purse or a bag, must take it and whoever does not have a sword must sell his cloak and buy one." - Luke 22:36

Not on anyone's watch. It's not happening. I'm quite sure that there are at least 600,000 - 700,000 well trained warriors in this country. These folks will not give up. Many have arms and some don't. When I think about those unarmed warriors I remember the words of CSM Plumley "Sir, if the time comes I need one, there'll be plenty lying on the ground."

225 years ago today, letters that became known as the Federalist Papers began appearing in newspapers.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Oct 31, 2012, 11:29 PM

108. "What I meant was, sometimes you have to die for something I believe in."

There's a pro-control slogan if ever I heard one.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #108)

Fri May 24, 2013, 08:17 PM

152. One of the best.

 

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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #152)

Fri May 24, 2013, 08:31 PM

154. Have a link:

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #154)

Sat May 25, 2013, 12:50 AM

155. Thanks.

 

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Nov 1, 2012, 05:07 AM

109. Another pearl of wisdom

 

from the anti-GUN crowd fresh off GD

"The gun gang doesn't tolerate moderates. I consider them basically just a variety of teabagger."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:13 AM

110. Guns are destructive, they are lawless, they are a serious public health issue.

Here I thought they were inanimate.

Go figure.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #110)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:24 PM

111. and "guns are unpatriotic." Really. Bunch of dope-smoking commies in my safe. nt

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #111)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:35 PM

112. who'dathunkit ;) n/t

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:21 AM

113. ** "leave the gun at home" **

Always, every time you leave the house! Don't go to the range to practice shooting. Don't take it hunting.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:35 PM

114. Here's one just posted

 


"Gun fucks and white males crap out. Coincidence?" this poster was talking about the NRA spending 17 million backing repukes. Gun Fucks LOL

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Response to Berserker (Reply #114)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:57 PM

115. Ummm...

Yeah! Whataguy!

There are bridges could be painted with one stroke of the brush he uses.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:44 PM

116. Here's a beauty

 

and I quote: "This whole fad of carrying concealed weapons appears to appeal mainly to old white guys who think they are targets of roaming bands of armed thugs." A fad LOL

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Response to Berserker (Reply #116)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:24 AM

117. So I guess...

...those folks that want a fighting chance are just stupid because they are not thug targets based on having more time working to accumulate money and by virtue of their years may be less likely to escape or fight back. Thugs are really after young folks that are still in school or just starting their professional careers. After all those 20 - 30 year-old folks are attractive and they are the ones you always see getting robbed or flying their own private planes with pockets full of cash on TV.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 02:29 PM

118. another pearl here: "Damaging to the sanity of the state"

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:53 PM

119. 1000-yard scope



This malcolm is only 32 inches. I hate to see one of those deadly "1000-yard scopes".

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:12 PM

120. "Toting...

...a gun or two."

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Response to Puha Ekapi (Reply #120)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:46 PM

121. Good but...

..."strapping on" rather than "toting" has that ring to it that pro-control really likes.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:21 PM

122. "Delicate flowers"

 

Borderline (if not outright) homophobic, edging close to "pansies" and similar terms.

Sounds like a slur a high school P.E. teacher would use to embarrass a less-physically-inclined member of the gym class. Implying, of course, that the subject was "one of those".

I'm surprised it's constantly allowed to stand on a progressive board and without protest from those who would otherwise call it out were it used against a different group than pro-2A folk.

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Response to sylvi (Reply #122)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:55 PM

123. ding. ding. ding.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #123)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:26 PM

124. I concur

This would be one of those "one size fits many" type insults because it's insulting to different groups for different reasons but some groups are acceptable as targets. Hypocrisy?

YMMV and all that. I wonder if it was determined that most fill in the blank (some group), were Republicans, would it be acceptable to insult them? (By group I mean truck drivers, iMAC owners, amateur astronomers, Chicken McNugget lovers... whatever.)

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #124)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:02 PM

128. Yep

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Response to sylvi (Reply #122)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:35 PM

133. Yep.

I'm often tempted to see their "delicate flower" and raise them a "precious snowflake."

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #133)

Fri May 24, 2013, 08:20 PM

153. I think that I'm going to borrow that.

 

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:28 PM

125. "You don't care about dead kids"

 

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:43 PM

126. "You cant hunt with that

assault weapon, there would be nothing left"

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:45 PM

127. I've always been fond of ...

... "get these weapons off our streets," in re AR-style rifles.

They're not on the streets. They're at the range, in the field, and in people's homes. CCW-ers don't carry them. Gangbangers don't use them. You might make a case for the DC sniper's weapon being "on the street," but only just.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 11:42 AM

129. The same term came to me today...

...that was in this reply: http://www.democraticunderground.com/11729858#post31

"loophole"


This probably the most often miused term of all.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:14 PM

130. "Weapons of war"

Seems to imply that there were no wars prior to the invention of the AK47. Like bolt-action rifles aren't weapons of war. Or revolvers. Or even muskets for that matter.

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Response to kudzu22 (Reply #130)

Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:36 PM

169. I can top that - "weapons of mass destruction"

All of a sudden, a Glock with an 11-round magazine is equivalent to a vial of sarin. A shotgun that holds six rounds instead of five is equivalent to a test tube full of weaponized anthrax. And as for those nasty AR and AK rifles - they could be equipped with magazines that only hold one round each and they'd still be considered as bad as VX just because they're AKs and ARs.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:21 PM

131. Gun fuckers.

 

That's one of the newer ones.

Gun cuddler, gun coddler, ....the list is growing...

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Response to Clames (Reply #131)

Mon Jun 10, 2013, 08:56 PM

170. Don't forget "gun humpers"!

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:52 PM

134. "NRA Talking Points" is the favorite slur du jour.

I am not now and never have been a member of the NRA. I've never donated to them, never read their magazine, never taken one of their classes. I don't know much about them, and I could not care less.

But if I post ANYTHING about a Constitutional right to responsibly own and, if I choose, carry a gun I am instantly accused of "spewing NRA talking points."

It would be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic.

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Response to Common Sense Party (Reply #134)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:55 PM

135. When they have nothing else...

...a lie will do nicely.

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Response to Common Sense Party (Reply #134)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 05:28 PM

136. It's an intellectually lazy ad hominem

 

meant to have a chilling effect against its target. Issued in the hope that the 2A defender won't want to be associated, however dishonestly, with a conservative group, and just shut up.

I dare say most of the people using it don't even know what the NRA's talking points are. They just heard someone else use the term and jumped on the slur bandwagon. Sad.

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Response to sylvi (Reply #136)

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 12:06 PM

141. I'd suggest that...

...the use of slurs and ad hominem attacks is just an admission to having little or nothing of substance to offer in a debate.

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Response to Common Sense Party (Reply #134)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 08:34 PM

139. Some NRA talking points are simply facts. Others are propaganda. ...

Calling facts NRA talking points is a tactic used by gun control advocates to protect their own propaganda about firearms.

Propaganda is used successfully by both the NRA and he gun control groups. The NRA is wrong when it suggests that Obama wants to ban and confiscate all firearms and the gun control advocates are wrong when they declare there is no legitimate use for an AR-15 and they are only "weapons of mass destruction."

NRA: Obama will take your rifle, shotgun, handgun
Amanda Sakuma, @iamsakuma
10:28 AM on 02/03/2013

Wayne LaPierre, CEO of the National Rifle Association, appeared on Fox News Sunday just days after testifying during a congressional hearing on gun violence, to stoke fears that President Obama will disarm “law-abiding citizens” of their most basic weapons.
“During the campaign, when said to people, ‘I will not take away your rifle, shotgun, handgun.’ They leafleted the country with flyers like this, ‘Obama’s not gonna take your gun,’ ‘Obama will protect gun rights,’” LaPierre said. “And now he’s trying to take away all three.”
http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/02/03/nra-obama-will-take-your-rifle-shotgun-handgun/


Assault Weapons Are Weapons of Mass Destruction and Should Be Banned

Robert CreamerPolitical Organizer, Strategist, Author; Partner Democracy Partners

Posted: 12/16/2012 10:36 pm

***snip***

But guns used for hunting have nothing in common with assault weapons like the ones that were used last week in the mass murder of 20 first-graders -- except the fact that they are referred to "guns."

Rapid-fire assault weapons with large clips of ammunition have only one purpose: the mass slaughter of large numbers of human beings. They were designed for use by the military to achieve that mission in combat -- and that mission alone.

***snip***

More important, assault weapons have no redeeming social value or alternative use whatsoever. The only reason to purchase an assault weapon, instead of a long gun used for target practice or hunting, is to kill and maim large numbers of human beings.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/assault-weapons-are-weapo_b_2313290.html


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Response to spin (Reply #139)

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 11:52 AM

140. propaganda is such a two-edged sword

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 03:15 PM

142. "Extremists are still the face of the proliferationist side."

I'd have to agree. They are the face of the extremist NRA and the extremist Brady/VPC groups.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 03:30 PM

143. I thought "delicate flowers" was good. "Gun fuckers" was colorful also. nt

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:58 AM

144. "The only way to stop a bad guy with a bomb is a good guy with a bomb."

I just like this picture:

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri May 24, 2013, 08:22 AM

145. "only people intent on doing hram to others..."

Thanks for that.
I'll have to alert my local police, the National Guard and the Olympic Shooting team.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri May 24, 2013, 11:41 AM

146. "my precious". The group is the most pathetic set of low-information whiners I have ever know.

Resorting to name calling, having a protected group with 25 blocked members.

Pathetic. Nothing will get done with such tactics.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #146)

Fri May 24, 2013, 12:37 PM

147. IMHO...

...the inclusion of the term "activism" is the ultimate in irony.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #147)

Fri May 24, 2013, 05:06 PM

148. Hugh actions:

Bait and then block members from the posting in their forum.

Weak.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #148)

Fri May 24, 2013, 05:43 PM

149. It's the counter-intuitive approach.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri May 24, 2013, 07:02 PM

150. Let's playing Jeopardy and answer your question with answers, rather than questions:

Shamelessly copied from elsewhere:

1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, Detroit & Chicago cops need guns.

2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.

3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."

4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994 are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991.

5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.

6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.

7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.

8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.

9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense - give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p. 125).

10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.

11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seat belts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise.

12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917.

13. The National Guard, federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned weapons, vehicles, buildings and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a "state" militia.

14. These phrases: "right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people" all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" refers to the state.

15. "The Constitution is strong and will never change." But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution.

16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them.

17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military weapons'', but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles'', because they are military weapons.

18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, fingerprinting, government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940's, 1950's and 1960's, anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms and there were no school shootings.

19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity.

20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.

21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.

22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears."

23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.

24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at shooting ranges.

25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.

26. Any self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon."

27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.

28. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self- defense only justifies bare hands.

29. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.

30. Charlton Heston, a movie actor as president of the NRA is a cheap lunatic who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas, a movie actor as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.

31. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.

32. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too.

33. Police officers have some special Jedi-like mastery over handguns that private citizens can never hope to obtain.

34. Private citizens don't need a gun for self- protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.

35. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun.

36. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not.

37. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that's bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that's good.

38. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.

39. Handgun Control, Inc., says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands." Guess what? You have the wrong hands.

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Response to Howzit (Reply #150)

Fri May 24, 2013, 07:25 PM

151. +1 :) n/t

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 06:47 PM

156. This OP is just a RW talking point.

How dare you!?!

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #156)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:32 PM

157. Put your bullet hose away.

How dare you accuse me of having a point.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #157)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:59 PM

158. You said "point"

Like hollow point.

You=shill.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #158)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:46 PM

159. If I was on the beach...

...I'd be a sea-shill.

I'm here all week!

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #159)

Sun May 26, 2013, 04:25 AM

160. Can we assume you'd be carring a beach loading model?

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Response to beevul (Reply #160)

Sun May 26, 2013, 07:57 AM

161. Or perhaps a "mussel" loader!

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Response to Bazinga (Reply #161)

Sun May 26, 2013, 08:33 AM

163. Take that Riprap to the other side of the Seawall.

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Response to beevul (Reply #160)

Sun May 26, 2013, 08:25 AM

162. Beach loader...

...Sharps... Just a bullet hose by any other name.

I don't want to be just "Spray firing from the hip" but I will if you make me.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue May 28, 2013, 01:34 AM

164. regarding: "Now it is the hands of the police...

...and will probably be melted down for scrap."


NOT

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 02:18 PM

165. NRA talking points

Once and forever, there is not much you can say regarding a pro-RKBA statement much more offensive than:

NRA TALKING POINT

On the validity scale, it ranks with Godwinism. Just intense, epic fail.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #165)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 03:32 PM

166. Surprisingly, that's actually an NRA talking point

Suggesting that any (even vaguely) pro-RKBAish statement is not an NRA talking point is in fact entry 38 on the NRA-approved list of Team NRA talking points...


(Caveat: that's meant to be a joke.)

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Response to petronius (Reply #166)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 04:02 PM

167. Well maybe but...

...I think what you say is just another NRA...TALKING...POINT!

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2013, 02:52 PM

168. Another favorite

"...your line of argumentation FAILS completely."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 07:48 PM

171. In today's hit parade:

"I must delete this poll"

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:21 AM

172. "...gatt..."

Carry-on...

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:10 AM

173. "...ameliorate this and other gun problems in the state."

(ameliorate - to make better or more tolerable)

Maybe someone's been on: http://www.merriam-webster.com/word-of-the-day/

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Jul 27, 2013, 08:03 AM

174. "Guns in the hands of the public is a stupendously bad idea."



Now where is that smilie with its head up its a$$?

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Jul 27, 2013, 06:47 PM

175. We are swimming in an

ocean of guns.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #175)

Sun Jul 28, 2013, 10:13 AM

176. Be safe now...

...remember your sunblock.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri Aug 9, 2013, 11:25 AM

177. "It's so easy to stir up the Small Penis Brigade"

I so sorry for the step down to this level by the rights crowd and....

...

...

...well, actually I'm not. It is, apparently, a fair self-characterization of some to use juvenile insults as part of their rhetoric.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #177)

Fri Aug 9, 2013, 06:26 PM

181. Used once, then hidden.

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Response to oneshooter (Reply #181)

Fri Aug 9, 2013, 06:30 PM

182. By a little old lady...

...from Pasadena no doubt.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri Aug 9, 2013, 11:41 AM

178. A gun nut is anyone who owns a gun

just to finally have the definition stated...

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #178)

Fri Aug 9, 2013, 12:00 PM

179. But doesn't that...

...leave the true status of those 'in illegal possession' rather undefined? By all means let's penalize, burden and criminalize the innocent while leaving the true problem unaddressed.

How could such limited thinking ever hope to improve an issue of this magnitude?





As they say: "Never approach vast tasks with half-vast thinking."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Aug 26, 2013, 12:35 PM

183. ''I never had sex with that assault weapon ban"

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2013, 08:05 PM

184. "...flood the street with battle rifles..."

I just couldn't resist this one.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Sep 17, 2013, 08:42 AM

185. "Grab 'em all."

Seriously??

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Sep 17, 2013, 11:59 PM

186. NRA logic: It's better understood if you remember it originates on the planet Bizarro.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:23 AM

187. "When You See Open Carry, Call 911"



Five'll get you ten that your first call gets you a subpoena.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 04:46 PM

189. "...armed rebellion is never legitimate in this country."

'is never', 'could never', 'never ever'???

Really? Speaking to the future and not the past, why?

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:27 PM

190. Just heard a new one today.

Apparently oligarchs and dictators want target populations to own guns so those populations will kill themselves off for the dictators benefit.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #190)

Wed Mar 5, 2014, 04:22 PM

191. Oh sure. Here's a quote:

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed the subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 11:26 AM

192. Gun Control Reform Activism

 

More like 'revisionist' activism.

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Response to MO_Moderate (Reply #192)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:15 PM

194. Nobody's perfect

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #194)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:56 PM

196. That's for sure

 

I just got banned for trying to discuss how to enact progressive gun control reform, which is in the statement of purpose of that forum.

????

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Response to MO_Moderate (Reply #196)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 06:30 PM

197. Your question has, apparently, been answered...

...by the hosts.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 01:26 PM

193. Assault style weapons

 

Assault style weapons are guns that don't meet the definition of assault weapons.

And of course, THE SHOULDER THING THAT GOES UP.

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Response to Token Republican (Reply #193)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:19 PM

195. Do you find it offensive...

...that folks who have very little understanding of firearms or existing laws and no inclination to learn anything about them want to have a voice in deciding on additional laws?

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 05:03 PM

198. "level 2 look alike firearm."

Here it comes...
Wait for it...




Well, given this latest interpretation, I guess we are "awash" in guns.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:26 PM

199. "Firearms industry benefits from America’s gun violence"

With violent assaults dropping sharply contrasted with the strong economic positions of many gun makers, this appears to be just another misleading headline.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:57 AM

200. "...we are not in a war zone"

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:58 AM

201. "slaughtered innocents" when talking about children

How do they know all those children slaughtered by guns are really innocent? Hmmm? Hmmm?

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #201)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:46 PM

217. FWIW...

...if you refer to someone who is 19 years old and a gang member as "a child", you at least need some vocabulary help.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 10:02 AM

202. Trash

I don't even know why we have gunners posting on a liberal site when pro gun shit is mostly right wing extremism.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #202)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 10:28 AM

203. Two excellent nominations there!

Solid choices...


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Response to petronius (Reply #203)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 11:44 AM

205. So true

Sad but true.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #202)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 11:42 AM

204. Thanks...

...for your hospitality and your liberal acceptance of a POV based on liberty and self-reliance.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #202)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 11:51 AM

206. Disagrees with me = right wing extremism. Got it.

I thought an open mind was a progressive value. I guess not in all cases.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #206)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 01:24 PM

207. What political party's gatherings does the

NRA show up at. Did you see the guns at CAPAC?
The reason you get so much shit slinged at you is because of who you associate with.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #207)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 01:27 PM

208. What political party thinks the 2A protects an individual right to own guns?

the reason we ignore you is that we know the party and the president agree with us on that fundamental fact.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #208)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 02:51 PM

211. No they don't agree with you. The NRA agrees with you as

do the gun manufacturers. One of your problems is that you mistakenly use the fact that the gun lobby out spends others as popular support which it isn't.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #211)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 03:07 PM

212. Do you think the 2A protects an individual right to own guns? Just wondering. nt

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Response to hack89 (Reply #212)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 04:54 PM

213. No. It never meant that. The SCOTUS was packed

with conservatives with an ideology that supports gun manufacturers and ALEC members.
Here is something else you don't get. Most people don't give a shit about the Second Amendment, don't own guns, don't carry a gun, don't think about defending themselves with a gun and think people who do are a bit off.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #213)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:01 PM

214. Yet the President and the Democratic Party believe it does

they are not right wing conservatives.

You are right about people not caring about guns that much - that is why gun control keeps failing. Support is wide but shallow - it is simply not a high priority to the vast majority of people.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #214)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:15 PM

216. No there you go again making assumptions.

They believe in our system which means the SCOTUS has made a ruling and they have to live with it.
It could come to pass that a future court will rule differently.
If you took the gun lobby money out of the equation then political leaders would tell you what they really think. Or get publicly financed elections and things would be different. You are hiding behind wealthy lobbyists who fund campaigns.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #216)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:49 PM

219. The party platform was written before Heller

Sure they have to live with it. Why did they decide to public affirm the decision? They didn't have to put it in the party platform. Why could they publically disagree with the SC? Could you imagine the rebukes putting a pro- Roe v Wade plank in their platform? What political price would they pay for publically disagreeing with Heller?

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Response to hack89 (Reply #219)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 06:05 PM

221. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

That's why

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #221)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 06:34 PM

223. So the party and Obama sold their principles to the highest bidder? ok nt

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #216)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:57 PM

220. re: "No there you go again making assumptions."

"They believe in our system which means the SCOTUS has made a ruling and they have to live with it."

Oh my. That's just awful.



"It could come to pass that a future court will rule differently."

Since you (seem to) advocate discounting the court's decisions in Heller and MacDonald, how would a future decision hold more weight? Would that be because it would be a decision with which you agree?

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #220)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 06:16 PM

222. It makes no difference what I agree with.

in the future a different court make up could exist. A state could pass a restricting law and it get supported by the court.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #222)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:56 PM

224. in the future a different court...

I have not much interest in "a different court". SCOTUS has in the past made some notable bad calls. I would hope that any future rulings, be they tweaks or reversals, would be based on truth and reason. The Obamas are Harvard grads and the Harvard motto, Veritas is part of the coat of arms of Harvard Law. The idea that law is fluid and may change at the will of the popular vote or "feeling" of the court is no more desirable than having the law depend on the capricious whims of a tyrant. The must be based on and reflect liberty and justice.

Sam Adams referred to what we have here in the US as "...the animating contest of freedom...". The quest of our courts, executives and legislatures is the balance between order and freedom. I'm sure most of the folks, including yourself, on both sides of this debate are wanting the best for everyone.

Have a nice night.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #207)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 01:57 PM

209. Somebody forgot to tell Harry Reid he is a right wing extremist

http://www.harryreid.com/ee/index.php/sportsmen/rights

Maybe you should call up his office and explain things to him.

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #209)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 02:14 PM

210. ~~~

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:10 PM

215. "white wing"

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #215)

Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:49 PM

218. Look pal...

...don't playing the "white wing" card around here. We won't have that.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:46 PM

225. "...weaklings who need to have guns strapped on in order not to be frightened of everything..."

Warped IMHO.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Mar 26, 2014, 04:07 PM

226. "Gun hoarders"!

 

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:57 PM

227. guns and ammunition are for settling personal grievances, enabling crime, and generally lashing out

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:59 PM

228. your plaything is bad for civilization

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #228)

Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:40 AM

229. I agree,

That one, just wow sometimes...

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #228)

Mon Mar 31, 2014, 04:34 PM

233. "pew-pew toys." Heard that one few wks back.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sun Mar 30, 2014, 11:25 AM

230. "A costly indulgence based upon a fraud." (the 2A)

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sun Mar 30, 2014, 02:34 PM

231. NRA puppet talking point!

 

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Response to Jgarrick (Reply #231)

Sun Mar 30, 2014, 03:23 PM

232. Just a quote

"It's hard for many people to believe that there are extraordinary things inside themselves, as well as others. I hope you can keep an open mind."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Mar 31, 2014, 10:07 PM

234. Check this out- "Commonsense" reappeared in the wild!:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/17/study-missouri-murders-spike-after-state-repeals-gun-background-check-law/

...Deputy Director Jon Vernick explained. “Requiring a background check on all gun sales is a commonsense approach to reducing gun violence


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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Apr 15, 2014, 01:13 PM

235. "...most ardent misinterpreters of the Second Amendment..."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 01:14 PM

236. "...the right-wing gun lobby, through its mouthpiece the NRA...'

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Apr 22, 2014, 06:06 PM

237. "...the cult of the firearm..."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Apr 23, 2014, 04:28 PM

238. "Let's Disarm the Nation and the World"

Good luck

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 04:54 PM

239. "repeal the Second Amendment"

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 01:04 PM

240. "precious" just to reiterate...

...the reply: http://www.democraticunderground.com/11729858#post146


Thanks again to NYC_SKP.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Apr 30, 2014, 06:55 PM

241. "Old white men love a long hard rod."

Ever notice pro-control is short on imagination?

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:18 PM

242. "...blood-soaked gun lobby..."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu May 1, 2014, 01:58 PM

243. "Killing machine, death spewer, semi-automatic assault rifle...all the same"

I guess the law can be as fluid as the language without impairing any rights.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon May 5, 2014, 03:50 PM

244. "The police are the Militia"

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Response to oneshooter (Reply #244)

Mon May 5, 2014, 04:57 PM

245. You can tell because...

...they carry muskets.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu May 8, 2014, 07:57 PM

246. "Reich Wing Republican"

Good one

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat May 10, 2014, 08:08 PM

247. Possibly my favorite of the week...

..."Notice how they covered up the 1st K..."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue May 13, 2014, 10:30 AM

248. "...what may issue does, is allow people...in public, to notify management or call authority..."

Where, in the US does prior restraint have the force of law?

Notify or call anyone you want; call the FBI to report a stray cigarette wrapper, get Homeland on the phone an report your nephew for scribbling in a sibling's passport...

Who writes this stuff? Where do these ideas come from?

This is your brain


This is your brain on gun-control

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #248)

Tue May 13, 2014, 02:21 PM

250. oocy dscntnt

I previously wrote: "...what may issue does, is allow people...in public, to notify management or call authority..."

dscntnt: Where, in the US does prior restraint have the force of law? Notify or call anyone you want; call the FBI to report a stray cigarette wrapper, get Homeland on the phone an report your nephew for scribbling in a sibling's passport...

You continue notoriously to take things out of context. Here is what I wrote in fuller context, & it makes much more sense than your juvenile cheap shot above:

jto: .. what may issue does, is allow people sitting in restaurants or in public, to notify management or call authority if they see someone with a pistol under his armpit or in his jacket.
.. what may issue does, is allow cops to question or arrest anyone in new jersey carrying a gun, to affirm whether he is legally entitled to carry it.
.. what may issue does, is PREVENT most of those people who shouldn't be carrying concealed guns everywhere they want, from doing so. For yes pilgrims, there ARE lots of people in the USA who shouldn't be allowed to carry guns, even gunnuts have told me this over the years, & they weren't speaking only of criminals.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172145852#post21 >>> post 9 actually

dscntn: Who writes this stuff? Where do these ideas come from?

Not from brains/heads filled with air. In shall issue states, a rogue with an 'exposed' concealed pistol gets scant attention if sitting in a restaurant or in public, he can't be checked for propriety, whereas in may issue states they can be more readily checked.
Criminals & prospective criminals just LOVE shall issue rules, since they go about undetected while illicitly carrying concealed, far more frequently.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

Here's another you took out of context regarding myself, #21 from same thread:

prev jto: you apparently don't know what a 'fact' is, since a response of 'no it doesn't' isn't really a fact, it's opinion;
discntn: And from a few paragraphs above:
jto: Yes it does.

You take it out of context, dear, for in context I was giving johnston tit for tat:

prev jto:.. what may issue does, is allow people sitting in restaurants or in public, to notify management or call authority if they see someone with a pistol under his armpit or in his jacket.
Johnston: no it doesn't/
jimmy : Yes it does.

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Response to jimmy the one (Reply #250)

Tue May 13, 2014, 03:01 PM

251. I was giving johnston tit for tat

Obviously you're missing the mirth.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue May 13, 2014, 01:26 PM

249. "The gun industry is the only industry that makes products without safety features."



Shouldn't there be a requirement (maybe a legal requirement) for those writing legislation to actually understand the objects being regulated?

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat May 24, 2014, 05:57 PM

252. "...give attrition a chance..."

That's a good one!

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sun Jun 15, 2014, 12:33 PM

253. "white cowboy hats...

...would make it way easier to tell you patriots from the bad guys"

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri Jul 4, 2014, 01:40 PM

254. really? "...the gun lobby lid to them."

I'm amazed there's someone who trusts a lobbyist.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #254)

Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:23 PM

255. Yes, so we need to help them, poor little ones who cannot think for themselves....

...victims of the big bad NRA, and gullible!

I found the comment kind of sexist.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri Jul 11, 2014, 06:56 PM

256. Beware, rude language being quoted

"gun nuts everywhere are masturbating furiously"


Really? What gutter was this thought scooped from?

=> http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172149093#post4

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Jul 30, 2014, 08:57 PM

257. AMMOSEXUAL

Just wow. I'm sure if I look around someone has posted a little cartoon that will explain it all.

Now why can't same folks conjure up some toilet humor and batch of stereotype pictures to go along with this erudition? They have to be clever folks to be resorting to sex and penis jokes when discussing gun laws, crime and similar light topics.

I'll be taking all of their opinions with this tiny pinch of salt:
http://goo.gl/maps/buLCz

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 12:15 PM

258. "The GD host forum is overrun by gun nuts"

Sure it is. I saw this gem too late to link it in LBN.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Aug 7, 2014, 05:13 PM

259. Ban the Second Amendment n/t

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:17 PM

260. "all gun owners are terrorists and should all be jailed as such"

I've not seen a brush so broad in quite some time.
I'm in awe of anyone capable of even raising it and painting.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Aug 27, 2014, 07:47 AM

261. "Military style assault rifles are WMD's by definition."

Sorry, today's misquoter seems to have made a mistake. This should probably read "Military style assault weapons...".

You heard it here first.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Aug 27, 2014, 07:49 AM

262. "...the NRA and their buddy gun manufacturing industry is busy selling guns to children..."

Sure they are.

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #263)

Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:21 PM

264. new one on me n/t

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Sep 1, 2014, 09:54 AM

265. Federal Judge Tries To Make It Easier To Obtain A Murder Weapon In California

Yes, I'm sure that's what Judge Ishii had in mind.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Sep 3, 2014, 07:02 PM

266. "what are bullets if not explosives?"

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #266)

Fri Sep 5, 2014, 09:40 PM

267. Saw that one

I almost spit my beer.

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Response to DashOneBravo (Reply #267)

Fri Sep 5, 2014, 10:37 PM

268. ~~~

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #269)

Mon Sep 8, 2014, 02:54 PM

270. Love it! We should pin this post!

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Sep 8, 2014, 02:55 PM

271. When the time is right...

...the party platform will change and we will finally stop being the laughingstock of the civilized world over all these guns."

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:15 PM

272. "Lack of a barrel shroud could help to reduce mass shootings..."

I'm just absolutely speechless. The really sad part is that some people will believe crap like that.


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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:07 PM

273. "Suicide by gun is worse than suicide by rope"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172153671#post24

I'd like to think that poster is merely...



...but being familiar with what passes for "gun control advocacy" lately,
they are most likely entirely serious. *cough*, *cough* Dunning-Kruger *ahem*

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #273)

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:37 PM

274. Maybe this would be a representative picture



Catching a whooper takes a big net.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 03:31 PM

275. "Gun nuts are rather racist. Check out NRA board members, attendees at gun shows, gun stores, etc...

...Gungeoneers here"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=909847

DU's foremost gun control advocate strikes again...

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #275)

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 04:00 PM

276. same song, different day n/t

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 05:21 AM

277. "Just hug your gun and get your orgasm and to hell with everyone and eveything else."

"Just hug your gun and get your orgasm and to hell with everyone and eveything else."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172154384#post29





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Response to beevul (Reply #277)

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 07:52 AM

278. Wow! That's just sad.

holy crap

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 04:50 PM

279. "(T)he NRA is to blame for the Ebola outbreak in America, I say."

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #279)

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 05:58 PM

280. My thoughts went through five stages of reaction









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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:33 AM

281. "I've shown that COLLECTIVE rights exist and no definition of "right" can change that fact."

Unable or unwilling to define the term but somehow has managed to accurately characterize one instance of that category of abstracts. Such claims are just

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #281)

Tue Oct 28, 2014, 06:02 PM

282. "It doesn't matter how many DGU's there were"- from the same poster

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #282)

Tue Oct 28, 2014, 06:45 PM

284. That's a real prize

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Oct 28, 2014, 06:16 PM

283. "(O)pen carry IS a white privilege, and a very big privilege, at that"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=929303

Looks like someone forgot to inform these people:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025430046

Black Panther-Inspired Dallas Gun Club Invokes Right To Open Carry





http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172154917

Rifle-Toting Huey P. Newton Gun Club Delivers Report on Police Shootings to Feds





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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #283)

Tue Oct 28, 2014, 07:12 PM

285. Couldn't have said it better...

"Looks like someone forgot to inform these people:"

"Everything that is really great and inspiring is created by the individual who can labor in freedom." IMHO, this great quote is the premier explanation for the existence of the US Constitution.

A fellow I admire a bunch said that the most important export ever in US history is our Constitution:
http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/english/article/2004/04/20040402110801maduobba0.7845575.html#axzz3HU2qQEPl

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 12:03 PM

286. "...the only time an AR owner...

...would need to be able to hit a playing card at 200 yds would be if he was shooting at 'tyrannical US soldiers."

The implication being that an AR is far too accurate for civilian ownership.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 03:21 PM

287. "target range orgasms"

It might be funny if it wasn't so pitiful:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172154844#post28

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sun Nov 9, 2014, 01:38 PM

288. "murder-clips" almost wins the silly sauce award...

...but is disqualified for being alliteratively challenged.
Somehow killer-clips and murder-mags just kind of...

...


...


...


...SING.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:32 PM

290. "(W)hen you buy a handgun you have already committed murder in your mind"

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #290)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:03 PM

291. Another from that thread, where animism rears its ugly ignorant head.

Said about a person who accidentally shot themselves:

"Well, if you buy a snake you should expect-at some time, somewhere, somehow- it's going to bite you. Sorry to hear about it, but...."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014951413#post13

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:33 AM

292. "So, again, I say shoot them on sight, let their bodies rot in the streets as a message..."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025861647#post9

So I say, with what? If guns are to be eliminated, with what will they be shot?

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