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Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:02 AM

Gun Carry law suggestions

As I've said before, I'm a fan of requiring training before being able to get a CCW permit. We were talking at work about that at work, and one of my co-workers (the WW2 gun collector) spoke up and said,"Why don't we make them go through training before carrying a weapon, period?" His point was that if you want to hunt in Nevada, you have to pass a hunter safety course before you are allowed to apply for a license. Shouldn't you at least be at that same level before you strap a weapon and go out your front door?

After a little discussion, here is what we arrived at:
You wouldn't need a license to transport a weapon as long as it was unloaded and separate from ammunition, or both were separate from you (as in the trunk).
Carrying a weapon in public, either CC or OC, would require a license.

At a minimum, you would have to go through a comprehensive firearms safety course and demonstrate the ability to safely fire it.
You would also have your name run through a database check, similar to what you go through now - at least n Nevada.
Once you have completed all the prerequisites, your name would be entered in a database that could be accessed by LEOs as necessary, and you would be issued a Carry Card. (I lean toward coordinating this with DMV, and adding another field to your driver's license instead.)

This could be utilized interstate as well for reciprocity.

Obviously this could be tweaked a lot, but I think the basic premise is sound. Of course, I thought my first wife would make an ideal life companion....I could be wrong about this as well.

Ideas?

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Response to tortoise1956 (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:08 AM

1. All of what you suggest

is already the law in Minnesota. I think it is a good idea to require education and training plus comprehensive background check before receiving a CCW permit. The class that includes classroom and shooting at a range takes a minimum of 8 hours.

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:17 AM

3. Yeah, education is a good thing

We were sharing horror stories about idiots we've come across in stores or ranges. Mine was the kid (OK, he was about 25 - that's a kid to me now!) who picked up an SKS, took it to the counter and asked the clerk if this was one of the automatic rifles. The clerk politely informed him that no, it wasn't, and suggested he go learn about guns before buying one. He refused to sell him anything at all.

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Response to tortoise1956 (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:16 AM

2. Wyoming does the same with hunting

but as far as OC and CC, I like what you say in principle, but I like the each state do their own thing. I have found that in places like Wyoming and Vermont where open carry has always been customary (at least not in Wyoming anyway) it is kind of a solution in search of a problem. I would make the OC permit like Montana's CCW, not needed if out in the sticks, but needed in a town or city.
As for the CCW training, if you are going to do it, do it right. I understand TX and MN have good training requirements. The class I took in Florida was a waste of my afternoon, and a fucking joke.

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Response to tortoise1956 (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:19 AM

4. I agree. Let's have CCW with some serious tactical and practical training.

 

I'm tired of this mantra that says that the magical police can show up and stop a crime with a gun but CCW carriers can't because "they aren't trained professionals!"

Let's have some real tactical and practical training for CCW.

My guess is most CCW permit holders will pass it with flying colors even with no training.

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