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Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:25 AM

The Gun Frenzy of 2012

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New York Times op-ed

President Obama’s election and recent re-election have apparently fueled a gun-buying craze in this country unlike anything we’ve seen in modern times.

USA Today reported this week:

“For the second consecutive year, prospective gun buyers joined Black Friday shoppers in record numbers as firearms dealers swamped the F.B.I. with required buyer background check requests. The F.B.I. fielded 154,873 calls, a roughly 20 percent increase from last year’s previous one-day record of 129,166, according to bureau records. The requests came in such volume throughout the day that F.B.I. call centers experienced two brief outages — one of 18 minutes and one for 14 minutes — during the busy day, bureau spokesman Stephen Fischer said Monday.”

As the report made clear:

“The F.B.I. does not track actual gun sales. But the number of firearms sold Friday is likely higher because multiple firearms can be included in one transaction by a single buyer.”


We had a pretty good discussion about background checks and how they relate to gun sales a while ago. The thing I picked up on is that used guns sold by pawn shops and FFL gun dealers also require the NICS background check and they obviously don't represent new guns entering the market.

Another reason is to request a concealed carry permit. No gun sale is required for that.

On the other hand, as this NYT article points out, some folks purchase multiple weapons with only one background check. So, although counting background checks as a way of gauging gun sales is far from accurate, I think we can all agree that business is booming and Obama is the greatest gun salesman of all time.

What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
Cross posted at Mikeb302000

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:47 AM

1. You are days late and dollars short.

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/117288673

At least attempt to read the other threads to avoid posting duplicates.

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 02:29 AM

2. Gun Frenzy!

 


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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 08:45 AM

4. Bear arms? nt

 

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 09:44 AM

9. Whoa.

I think you just won teh internetz

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:48 AM

3. The NICS system is not used for CCW checks.

The application for a CCW requires a paper form, submitted to the FBI for an actual background check to be done.

Guns sales are at new record highs, with many of those sales being to first time gun buyers.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 08:48 AM

7. I'm sure it has nothing to do with decreased police services. nt

 

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 08:47 AM

5. And remember folks.

 

Buy American!

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 08:48 AM

6. The premise that the re-election of President Obama is the cause of a sales surge is nonsense

 

Sales of ALL KINDS of discretionary items are up, because the economy is recovering from a multi-year, deep recession.

I think we can all agree that business is booming and Obama is the greatest gun salesman of all time.

No, he's just the President. Guns sell themselves because people want them.

Gun manufacturers and retailers enhance that effect by advertising. It would be interesting to look at statistics on money spent on that.

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 09:25 AM

8. Times are good people have money to spend again.

Why not on one of the longest lasting of consumer products?

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:19 AM

10. Locking

This post does not fit under the SoP of the Group. It's general news, and should be in LBN or a main forum.

Regards,
Krispos42, Group Host

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