Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:24 AM

Gun Laws Matter 2012: Understanding the Link Between Weak Laws and Gun Violence

We hear stories of gun violence every day. Domestic disputes turning deadly. Street crimes taking the lives of innocent people. Mass shootings wreaking havoc in our public spaces. Suicides and fatal accidents devastating families across the country. The unrelenting toll of America’s gun violence epidemic leaves 100,000 people injured or killed every year in communities nationwide. But while the number of people affected by this crisis is staggering – 86 people die by guns every single day – it’s almost equally shocking to find that legislators nationwide aren’t doing everything in their power to prevent the killings.

Plenty of widely supported policies can reduce gun violence, but, in many states, they aren’t being adopted. In fact, a number of states have chosen to pass measures that actually make it more difficult for law enforcement, doctors, and local officials to work to reduce gun deaths and injuries.

http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-laws-matter-2012-understanding-the-link-between-weak-laws-and-gun-violence/

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Gun Laws Matter 2012: Understanding the Link Between Weak Laws and Gun Violence (Original post)	SecularMotion	Nov 2012	OP
Please, you are republishing lies while presenting them as truth.	PavePusher	Nov 2012	#1
The opinions presented do not agree with your opinions.	Warren Stupidity	Nov 2012	#2
Just a few of the lies on that page:	PavePusher	Nov 2012	#7
Where exactly is the TOS violation?	Warren Stupidity	Nov 2012	#9
Your Options	fightthegoodfightnow	Nov 2012	#5
My state, Missouri,	glacierbay	Nov 2012	#3
Making money churning out gratifying ideology.	rrneck	Nov 2012	#4
I hear about car wrecks every day. some of these could be argued as	Tuesday Afternoon	Nov 2012	#6
With all the fuming about Florida, why did it not get an "F?"	Eleanors38	Nov 2012	#8

Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:23 AM

PavePusher (15,374 posts)

1. Please, you are republishing lies while presenting them as truth.

Seems to violate the TOS here.

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:03 AM

Warren Stupidity (31,961 posts)

2. The opinions presented do not agree with your opinions.

That is not a TOS violation. What a ridiculous assertion on your part. However, if your seriously believe that the op is a TOS violation, then you should hit the alert button and check the TOS box.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:24 PM

PavePusher (15,374 posts)

7. Just a few of the lies on that page:

In fact, a number of states have chosen to pass measures that actually make it more difficult for law enforcement, doctors, and local officials to work to reduce gun deaths and injuries.

False. Not one law makes any of those persons jobs "more difficult".

States received negative points for having irresponsible measures that increase the likelihood of gun violence. These measures include:

•“Shoot First” laws(1), which gained national attention after the death of Trayvon Martin because they can prevent law enforcement from prosecuting shooters in public places;
•“Firearms Freedom Act”(2) laws, which declare that federal gun laws do not apply to firearms manufactured and sold within a state’s borders; and
•Laws that prevent doctors from informing their patients(3) about the health risks associated with firearm ownership.

1. No such laws anywhere.
2. Many Federal laws would still apply.
3. No such laws anywhere.

Because strong gun laws are clearly associated with lower death rates, legislators should work to save lives in their communities by enacting smart gun laws.

No supporting evidence... because there isn't any.

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:36 PM

Warren Stupidity (31,961 posts)

9. Where exactly is the TOS violation?

You have a difference of opinion with the contents of the post, declaring it all to be lies. Fine. I won't even argue about that. Now where is the TOS violation?

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:22 PM

fightthegoodfightnow (7,042 posts)

5. Your Options

Substanatively address the post, ignore the post, ignore the poster or alert the post.

Otherwise it's YOU who is lying about this being a violation of TOS. It is not or does it 'seem' to be to any fair minded person regardless of their position on guns.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:31 AM

glacierbay (2,477 posts)

3. My state, Missouri,

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got an F. I'm damned proud of my state, an F from a gun control site is, to me, a goal to strive for and it seems we've reached our goal.

http://smartgunlaws.org/missouri-state-law-summary/

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Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:47 AM

rrneck (13,788 posts)