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Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:22 AM

Texas gets failing grade on its gun laws

The San Francisco-based Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence has released a new report that examines gun laws and violence in all 50 states.

The report, titled “Gun Laws Matter 2012: Understanding the Link Between Weak Laws and Gun Violence,” looks at the relationship between state gun laws and gun violence — as well as assigning a grade to each state based on the strength or weakness of these laws.

Texas’ grade: F.

In fact, the Lone Star State was one of 21 states that received an F in the report.

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/blog/2012/11/texas-gets-failing-grade-on-its-gun.html

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:48 AM

1. Anti-gun fanaticism: the left fringe's single-issue answer to the right's anti-abortion

and anti-gay contingent.

21 states getting an F. Wow. That says more about the extreme agenda of one single-issue nonprofit (just like the crazies who give Fs to states with "too lax" anti-abortion laws) than it does about Texas or any other state these folks have graded. Another 10 with Ds. A whole 6 states with As and Bs. Yup, single-issue fanatics.

In terms of changing the country in meaningful ways, let's put this in perspective. I live in Texas, and I know my neighbors. You know how some non-fringe Rethugs are saying that they could win America in a landslide if the crazy contingent of their party would stop making abortion and gay rights the core of their hate agenda? Texas would go blue in a heartbeat if a certain contingent of dems got off their finger-wagging anti-gun agenda and focused on the issues that are core to Texans as well as people everywhere in this country - health care, bad banking and bad corporate citizenship, making sure people's tap water doesn't ignite, etc. Most of my friends, neighbors, and co-workers are RINOs - when you talk issues with them, they're libertarian left. But if guns are going to be more important in elections than the issues that really matter in getting our country on the right footing, dems and the dem platform are not going to get off the starting blocks in Texas and a number of other states.

But back to guns. In the interest of full disclosure, I have one gun. It has been used once, to put down a distempered raccoon that was endangering multiple neighbors' dogs one early morning. I also know what my neighbors have in their very considerable arsenals, and in many cases what they're packing in their trucks or under their coats. I used to live in much more restrictive Minnesota, where this type of gun culture would be considered alarming. But living in it, is it in any way troubling? Not at all.

Living in Minnesota, I actually saw much more gun violence than I see in my new home state. Yes, there are more accidents - but that's not violence. Nor does any rational person consider suicides and attempted suicides as gun violence. By the way, this fringe group's statistics are fundamentally skewed to make their point - lying to make an argument doesn't work for rethugs, and dems shouldn't play that game either. In terms if gun-related death rate, Texas is #26 in the nation per capita (http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-death-rate-per-100-000). That's hardly alarming. Alas for them, it's not a sexy figure that single-issue groups can use to shill for money and headlines. Shame, shame.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:10 AM

2. Somehow ... I think Texas will carry on ...

 

... one day at a time.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:25 AM

3. Any state that doesn't allow open carry....

 

should not rate higher than a C+, in my opinion.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:31 AM

4. aren't you just using a different OP (subjectline) in order to post the link twice?

isn't this article already being discussed in another thread?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/117286909

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:33 AM

5. Give yourself a pat on the back Texas. nt.

 

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:36 AM

6. I put more stock in the Brady scorecard.

My state has a 2 out of a possible 100, and I've been trying desperately to net us a perfect zero. College carry bans are a tough demon to slay.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:39 AM

7. Hilariously stupid. The grading system doesn't even look at crime statistics.

 

Only policies.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:50 PM

16. Paper shuffling, jowl-jiggling bureaucracies are more important.nt

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:45 AM

8. D for my state....I was hoping for an F.

F stands for Freedom in this case.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:33 PM

9. "Congratulations to Tex!", Cal stated jealously.

A- for us, I would have preferred a C- or D+ sort of grade I think...

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:30 PM

10. So what? In my opinion, and the opinion of many gun owners, Texas gets an A. (n/t)

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Response to spin (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:32 PM

11. I'll give Texas a B

Wyoming and Vermont deserve A.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:36 PM

12. Yay!! My state got an F for Fantastic Understanding of our Constitution!

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:40 PM

13. My state got a C-

 

but we are working hard for and F

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:00 PM

14. WA state gets a C, was hoping for a D.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:25 PM

15. It would be fun to see the reports of like 20 years

ago...just to see how, according to these asshats, grades have been in free fall with no ground in sight..

Oh, and my state earned the best grade too..right there with Texas

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:13 PM

17. Phoeey! We don't have open-carry or college-carry yet.

But we are working on it.

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