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Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:46 AM

Robbers attack CCWer, one gets shot, other runs away.

http://www2.wspa.com/news/2012/nov/12/13/deputies-scene-greenville-co-shooting-ar-4954058/

It is getting to be such a routine story that few details are given anymore.


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Investigators tell 7 On Your Side that the victim, who has a Concealed Weapons Permit, fought back when one of the suspects pointed a gun at him. The victim pulled his gun and fired two shots, hitting one of the men in the chest. The other suspect got away.

"Two men opened the passenger door, stuck the gun in his face and said I'm here to rob you. And they started struggling in the car," said Lt. Tim Ridgeway with the Greenville County Sheriff's Office.

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More at link


The robber that was hit was shot twice in the chest. He is in the hospital in serious condition.

Once again it didn't go according to the anti's script. CCWer was able to get his gun, didn't shoot any innocents, was able to correctly identify who the bad guy was, (Kind of obvious. The BG was the one trying to rob him by shoving a gun at him.)

BTW - Most of the self-defense stories I find, I don't post here. I look for ones involving a CCW or something more dramatic about the story. There is another routine armed-robber-goes-to-rob-store-,owner-shoots-kills-robber story that I am not posting. No details, too routine.

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Reply Robbers attack CCWer, one gets shot, other runs away. (Original post)
GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 OP
ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #1
slackmaster Nov 2012 #2
GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #3
Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #4
GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #6
petronius Nov 2012 #8
Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #13
Permanut Nov 2012 #5
gejohnston Nov 2012 #11
ileus Nov 2012 #7
Bonhomme Richard Nov 2012 #9
glacierbay Nov 2012 #10
DonP Nov 2012 #12
Bonhomme Richard Nov 2012 #14
slackmaster Nov 2012 #15
Bonhomme Richard Nov 2012 #16
AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #17
GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #18

Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:58 AM

1. What about the claims that defensive gun use almost never occurs? Obviously some one is lying.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:06 PM

2. ...

 

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:16 PM

3. Definate failure of the victim selection program.

Program failure may yet cause massive, system wide crash with impossible restart.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:18 PM

4. You found a valid one here.

The best advice came from the cop.
"Ridgeway says with robberies up in the county, you should always be aware of your surroundings. And you should avoid being outside alone.

If you have to be outside alone, Ridgeway says be alert. Don't get distracted. And pay attention to details, faces and groups of lingering people."

Personally, I can't imagine carrying anything on me worth killing or dying for, but that's just me.

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:27 PM

6. Street cred and thrills.

Some gang members will kill to build up their "street cred", their reputation as being a real bad ass. Others will kill because they get a feeling of power from it. Some will kill because they are angry that you didn't have enough to pay for their effort in robbing you.

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:35 PM

8. Unless you can leave your life and health safely at home, you're always carrying something

worth killing and (ideally not) dying for, right? And that's what the decision to carry or not is about: protection from grievous physical harm. It's not really about how much you value the things you're carrying...

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Response to petronius (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:32 PM

13. If I carried a gun, it would be the most valuable thing I would carry.

So it would be a wash at best. I cannot imagine any good coming from it. However, if I lived somewhere it made sense to carry, then I wouldn't hesitate.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:22 PM

5. I'm not seeing any specific information about the victim's gun..

but since it was apparently concealed, I assume it wasn't an AK-47 or other assault rifle.

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Response to Permanut (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:20 PM

11. considering the legal hassle of owning one

and the expense of buying them, I highly doubt it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:33 PM

7. Shooting people over stuff just doesn't make sense.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:52 PM

9. My instincts tell me that the CCW holder.....

already had his hand on his own gun when the robber came up to the car. In other words he was paying attention to his surroundings.

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Response to Bonhomme Richard (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:55 PM

10. That's likely what happened.

 

He saw those 2 watching him and the hackles on his neck went up and he prepared himself for what he believed would be a confrontation.
Good call.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:23 PM

12. They always say "The best and fastest holster is your hand"

The "gift of fear" is what kept our species alive for a few thousand years.

It has to be relearned by people today now that our major predators are two legged.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:07 PM

14. I learned long ago that those "haclkes" are a....

primary survival mechanism.
Subconsciously you pick up on predatory behavior.

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Response to Bonhomme Richard (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:25 PM

15. Hackles make you look bigger

 

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:59 PM

16. Funny. n/t

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:20 PM

17. The robber was shot twice in the chest and is now in the hospital?

 

What did the CCWer use? A 9mm? A .380? A .22?

Has he learn from his experience? If so, what are the odds that he is now in the market for something bigger?

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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #17)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:11 PM

18. Probably a .380.

Those are very popular for concealed carry.

I googled but didn't find any other info.

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