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Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:18 AM

Concealed

The reputation of the gun and the rhetoric surrounding Texas culture have been intertwined since the state’s inception. Perpetuated by popular culture and the media, the stereotype of the gun-toting Texan remains steadfast in the national consciousness.

There is no state firearm registration, no limit on magazine size or ammunition purchases. Class III weapons, including suppressors, machine guns and short-barreled firearms, are legal. Since the expiration of the federal assault weapons ban, Texas places no restrictions on “assault weapons.” Texas is a “castle doctrine” state, a “stand your ground” state and a “peaceable journey” state.

Texas citizens buy, sell, carry and use firearms. Guns and Texas have a long, deep-set history.

But what is the best way to approach the matter of firearms on a campus full of students?

http://www.thebatt.com/concealed-1.2947825?pagereq=1

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Reply Concealed (Original post)
SecularMotion Nov 2012 OP
Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #1
Kolesar Nov 2012 #2
hack89 Nov 2012 #4
hack89 Nov 2012 #5
Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #7
friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #12
PavePusher Nov 2012 #9
friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #11
Straw Man Nov 2012 #13
2ndAmForComputers Nov 2012 #25
apocalypsehow Nov 2012 #26
GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #3
Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #6
GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #8
Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #10
Union Scribe Nov 2012 #14
oneshooter Nov 2012 #16
GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #15
fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #17
GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #20
Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #23
petronius Nov 2012 #18
rl6214 Nov 2012 #19
AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #21
former-republican Nov 2012 #22
Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #24

Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:35 AM

1. Ever consider just doing a daily digest?

It'd save time instead of having twenty dumps a day

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:04 AM

2. Silencers and sawed off shotguns for the drug racketeer caucus

The real constituency here

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Response to Kolesar (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:49 AM

4. Silencers are a safety issue

there is a reason they are mandatory in several European countries.

And silenced rifles are still very loud - they are only truly silent when using special sub-sonic bullets. Hollywood has given many a distorted idea of what silencers can actually do.

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Response to Kolesar (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:52 AM

5. Because we know that without such laws

the drug racketeers would never consider acquiring such weapons.

Did you even think before posting that jem?

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Response to Kolesar (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:42 AM

7. Okay everybody, is this a proper posting for...

a gun-controller, but not for a pro-2A poster? I'm confused about the "alert" process, and don't want to fire too many blanks and suffer some kind of consequence.

So, a clarification: Do you, Kolesar, think the real constituency (in this group) is a "drug racketeer caucus?"

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:56 PM

12. As we can see, political failure makes some bitter and angry.

Sad watching DUers acting like Republicans after PBO's re-election...

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Response to Kolesar (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:53 PM

11. Carping about reducing noise pollution? Really?

While simultaneously implying that we're a bunch of sociopaths?

Silencers and sawed off shotguns for the drug racketeer caucus

The real constituency here


Political failure sure makes people bitter....


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Response to Kolesar (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:04 AM

13. Hi.

Silencers and sawed off shotguns for the drug racketeer caucus

The real constituency here

Go peddle your slanderous horseshit somewhere else.

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Response to Kolesar (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 05:18 PM

25. Fish in barrel has been shot.

Not much of an achievement. But fun nonetheless.

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Response to 2ndAmForComputers (Reply #25)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 05:51 PM

26. ...

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:47 AM

3. It isn't a problem for the dozens of colleges that already allow concealed carry on campus. N/T

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:31 AM

6. This OP IS the grand stereotype!



The characteristics assigned to Texas can be said about MOST states! Why let Texas get all the credit?

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:54 PM

8. The article is from Texas A & M college newspaper. N/T

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:01 PM

10. Ah, the Aggies want some of the credit. I see. nt

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:29 AM

14. Don't Texans have to go through the same Class III procedure?

Tax stamp and paperwork and all that? The article makes it sound like Texas is unique in legalizing ownership.

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Response to Union Scribe (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:59 AM

16. Yes, Texas is no diffrent than any other state in the Union.

We go through the same procedures as anybody else. What the complaint is that the local LEO's are willing to sign off on the application.

That is why they are pissing all over themselves.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:01 AM

15. Texas A&M student senate has voted to allow concealed carry on campus. N/T

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:08 AM

17. Vote?

You mean all we have to do is put it up for a vote?

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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:04 PM

20. Not at A&M. The student senate vote is only advisory. N/T

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:59 AM

23. Student Government is worthless. n/t

 

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:33 AM

18. That's a rather good article for a student paper (for any paper, really), and I'm

favorably impressed by the comments of the Univ. Police Dept. as well, but whichever professor is in charge of introducing A & M students to the Constitution (and the Declaration of Independence) may need to expand that lecture:

“The Constitution tells me I have a right to life,” Mohle said. “By disarming me, suddenly I see that right whisking away quicker than if I had been allowed my Second Amendment rights.”

Ajufo sees the clause in a different light.

“The First Amendment guarantees life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, so it would be unreasonable to assume that one citizen’s right to bear arms should trump another citizen’s right to life,” Ajufo said.

As for my take on it, I see no reason whatsoever why students who are legally entitled to carry off campus should be prevented from doing so on campus...

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:53 AM

19. Yup...that's my state

 

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:41 PM

21. People over 21 with concealed weapons? Quick, somone loan me some pearls, that I may

clutch at them

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:18 PM

22. I agree SecularMotion

 

It is stupid some other states have laws on the books that limit ownership of firearms.

Finally you are getting it!

Congratulations we are very proud of you here.

See boys he is finally learning .








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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:10 AM

24. Sounds great!

 

There is no state firearm registration...

Awesome! The second amendment is about countering federal military power. Registration undermines that ability. Go Texas!

...no limit on magazine size or ammunition purchases.

Yay Texas!

Class III weapons, including suppressors, machine guns and short-barreled firearms, are legal.

Of course, all federal laws still apply, which means a $200 tax plus the going rates for machine guns start at around $5000 these days.

Since the expiration of the federal assault weapons ban, Texas places no restrictions on “assault weapons.”

Yay Texas! Especially since all rifles combined only account for about 300 homicides annually.

Texas is a “castle doctrine” state, a “stand your ground” state and a “peaceable journey” state.

Yay Texas!

A&M policy currently allows concealed carry on campus, but not in university buildings.

Yay Texas A&M!

“This hypothesis states that when goal-directed activity is blocked, frustration and anger are aroused,” Bodden said. “However, violent action is not likely to occur unless ‘aggressive cues’ such as guns, knives and weapons are present. If present, the odds of aggressive action go way up. If we go a step further and assume that the frustrated person with a gun has also been drinking and is an impulsive adolescent, then we have a recipe for disaster.”

First of all, there is nothing, I say again, nothing to stop impulsive, drunk adolescents from going on a shooting rampage on a college campus right now. Making it legal for adults 21 years of age or older to carry concealed firearms on campus is not going to change that fact.

When Professor Amy Bishop came to my campus building and shot 6 people, killing 3 of them, the rules did not stop her at all. She went home and got her "aggressive cue" and then went forth on her mission to kill people on campus.

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