Gun Control & RKBA
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Posted: Monday, November 5, 2012 9:51 pm | Updated: 12:08 am, Tue Nov 6, 2012.
Posted on November 5, 2012
By Max Wintiz
SARASOTA, Fla. - In one of the more unusual stories this election season, a thief who stole a woman's campaign yard signs, writes her a postcard explaining why he did it.
On two occasions, the Barack Obama and Keith Fitzgerald signs were taken from the yard of Jill Green, a resident in the Indian-Beach/Sapphire Shores neighborhood in Sarasota.
"I don't have any idea who it could be," Green said.
She then received a postcard in her mailbox. On the front of the card, there is a picture of Obama and Ronald Reagan. Under the picture of Reagan, the word, "Hero." Under Obama, the word, "Zero." On the back of the card, the person wrote this:
More: http://www.mysuncoast.com/news/local/article_ce92c57a-27bc-11e2-ba0b-0019bb30f31a.html
My question to you: do you think the ideas espoused in the postcard regarding Democrats/gun control advocates are acceptable political speech regarding gun policy if the individual were to not have absconded with this persons yard signs?
jenw2
(374 posts)That's why people that have NRA or other pro-violence group stickers on their cars have more break-ins. Telling the public that you don't own guns by putting up Obama signs is a good thing.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)I doubt, however, that it will be a long one.
Rincewind
(1,199 posts)and I also have guns. In fact, most of the Democrats that I know own guns.
Webster Green
(13,905 posts)Me and all my hippie/commie democratic voting friends are armed quite nicely. There are many veterans in that group, including myself.
Wing-nuts make a serious mistake if they think all liberals and democrats are unarmed pacifists.
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)Webster Green
(13,905 posts)Some of them just sit there and rarely get used, but I would never sell them.
If I got rid of a tool, it would likely turn out to be the next thing I need. (Murphy's Law)
ileus
(15,396 posts)This morning I'm going heavy. My M&P with an extended 17 rounder, and 4 12 rounders for backup.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)petronius
(26,581 posts)Read a book, journalist person!!11!!1
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GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Of course, he was a real person of the Old West. He returned East to become a sports writer covering boxing. He would sometimes buy a used .45 Peacemaker and sell it to some unsuspecting person as a gun that he had used in a shootout. The irony is that all of those "fake" guns are now valuable collector's items due to their connection with Bat Masterson, if the connection can be proven. Some of the suckers that bought the guns kept the bill of sale and passed it on to their decendents.
petronius
(26,581 posts)to use as the 'explanatory' point is worthy of ridicule...
Warpy
(110,913 posts)That idiotic postcard is contradicted by the facts: gun laws have been liberalized under Obama. Tighter restriction has not happened. The guy is a nut and a thief and is trying to blame the NRA for the fact that he's a pimple on the ass of the country.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)Since I don't know of anyone here who have said any such thing here, I'm really missing your point. Are you asking if it is acceptable speech in DU or in the world at large? Skinner et al decides the first, the 1A decides the second.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)That whole First Amendment thing and all that...
bluerum
(6,109 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Don't forget about the 1st Amendment.
The postcard is stupid, but stupidity is somewhat common.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)...apparently is unaware of the fact that Obama voters have more education, on average, than Romney voters.
Both sides have people that support a stupid pro or con position. Pro-control people wage war against "assault weapons" and pro-gun people talk of "second amendment remedies". We both know that "assault weapon" is a marketing term, and that there's not going to be an armed revolution because the federal government spends too much taxpayer money.
ellisonz
(27,709 posts)Wanting to ban (control better) assault weapons is the same as "second amendment remedies" ??? Do you realize what Sharon Angle meant when she said that?
May I remind you:
9 SCOTUS Members agree with those statements. How many agree with the idea of "second amendment remedies" ???
krispos42
(49,445 posts)You show me a politician that wants to ban "assault weapons" and I'll show you a pander-bear. No different, logically, than people that think life begins at conception... unless it was the result of rape or incest.
"Assault weapon" is a term are used to flog political action and influence voters. Nothing more.
And I don't know what your quote proves; semiautomatic rifles are hardly "dangerous and unusual", not anymore. And there are already provisions in place to strictly regulate fully-automatic guns, and explosive devices such as grenades and artillery rounds.
ellisonz
(27,709 posts)...to defend your statement about "second amendment remedies."
Good Day, Sir.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)No defense is required.
Clames
(2,038 posts)...more dangerous and unusual weapons. Your interpretation is flawed as usual.
Decoy of Fenris
(1,954 posts)In fact, I think I may start an OP on it. See what the community thinks.
Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)Is there such a thing as "unacceptable political speech"?
The author is probably right that a Democratic supporter is less likely to own guns than a Republican supporter, but that is about the only positive thing I can say about the thief's screed.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)stealing the signs was not protected by that however.
/assuming this is even real. It smacks of a hoax to me.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)The guy that wrote that postcard is an ignorant asshole. He's making the same mistake you are. He's interpreting others based in a caricature he's created for them.
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)There are no misspellings.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)And not down my leg.