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Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:27 PM

We are second class citizens of DU. We are NOT to use The Main Lobby.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: The post reads accurately to me. The alerter kinda fits the OP too.
There is a reason the gungeon is in the basement, under the parking lot. Too bad they still have to enter and exit through the main lobby.

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Reply We are second class citizens of DU. We are NOT to use The Main Lobby. (Original post)
Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 OP
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #1
rrneck Nov 2012 #3
oneshooter Nov 2012 #43
rrneck Nov 2012 #45
ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #2
Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #4
holdencaufield Nov 2012 #12
rrneck Nov 2012 #5
virginia mountainman Nov 2012 #9
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #29
rrneck Nov 2012 #31
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #32
former-republican Nov 2012 #6
Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #7
Kali Nov 2012 #8
gejohnston Nov 2012 #10
petronius Nov 2012 #11
Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #13
Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #14
ileus Nov 2012 #15
Berserker Nov 2012 #16
Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #36
Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #17
Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #18
glacierbay Nov 2012 #19
ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #20
Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #21
Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #22
glacierbay Nov 2012 #23
Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #24
glacierbay Nov 2012 #25
Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #30
Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #35
Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #26
Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #27
Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #28
glacierbay Nov 2012 #33
Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #34
Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #37
Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #38
Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #39
gejohnston Nov 2012 #40
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #41
gejohnston Nov 2012 #42
Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #44
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #46
friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #47

Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:28 PM

1. Too bad you can't issue an alert on the Juror #1. ;-)

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:36 PM

3. Actually, there is an alert link with the responses. nt

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Response to rrneck (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 06:15 PM

43. How does that work?

Are you sent a mail message if the outcome of the alert?

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Response to oneshooter (Reply #43)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 06:32 PM

45. Don't know, never tried it. I don't think

it goes to a jury though. I think it goes straight to admin.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:35 PM

2. Need a link

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:40 PM

4. Ride, ride, ride, let it ride

Lots of groups here, and this one tends to go against the party line. I don't blame the more orthodox DUers who see us as a nuisance. Inshallah, we'll change the party line itself, by and by.

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Response to Glaug-Eldare (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 04:50 AM

12. This is going to be a very close election ...

 

... if (heaven forbid) Obama loses this election ... gun control will go so far down the Democratic agenda priority that any Democrat who brings it up is going to be treated like Fred Phelps.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:45 PM

5. Well, I guess if they don't like me coming in the front door

they need to get back to whatever bubble they fell out of. I come and go where I goddamn well please.

Fuck. That. Attitude.

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Response to rrneck (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:30 AM

9. Hear Hear!!!!

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Response to rrneck (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:19 PM

29. Anyone that has a problem with me or anyone else using the front door...

...will be needing a new f***ing door.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #29)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:22 PM

31. And a ladder

so they can climb up on it and kiss my ass.

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Response to rrneck (Reply #31)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:34 PM

32. And the ass...

...of the white horse I rode in on.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:55 PM

6. Rabid gun controllers are odd ducks

 


They are the most irrational and emotional people you will have the displeasures of talking to.

The more you destroy their arguments with facts the more emotional and illogical they become.


Yes they are odd ducks.

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Response to former-republican (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:59 PM

7. indeed and, while I appreciate the vote to Leave It Alone, I was flabbergasted by the comment.

weird.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:16 AM

8. ToS was checked too

went to MIRT



haven't seen you in there in a while

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Response to Kali (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 01:01 AM

10. what on earth could TA have posted that could

possibly have been a TOS violation?

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 01:13 AM

11. She had a hide in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=84336

But in my opinion hitting ToS on that post would be inappropriate, even malicious...

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Response to petronius (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 07:45 AM

13. the things that 2Aers are called and are left to stand compared to what I said is

Beyond the Pale. I am getting Sick Of It,

The Double Standard in this Group is horrendous.

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Response to Kali (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 07:47 AM

14. no comment -

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:20 AM

15. Odd....since we're the most progressive of all the groups...

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Response to ileus (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:54 AM

16. You are 100% correct

 

It's a rather perplexing situation. If a person is a Democrat and supports the RKBA the left thinks your a secret right wing tea bagger posting on a Democratic site like I have been accused of lately. And if you go to another forum that supports RKBA you are a Liberal, Socialist Commie piece of shit that votes to ban assault weapons.

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Response to Berserker (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 02:25 PM

36. "And if you go to another forum that supports RKBA you are a Liberal..."

 

Ain't that the truth?

I frequent other gun forums but I never bring up politics there.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:06 AM

17. ****** Regarding that post. I meant it sincerely.******

Control Freaks and Power Struggles in Relationships
ADHD, Chronic Rage, OCD, Passive -Aggressive and 12-Step Programs
Marilisa Sachteleben, Yahoo! Contributor Network
Jul 30, 2009

Relationships like machines, require balance. Power struggles and control issues indicate a lack of balance in a relationship. Power struggles and control issues stem from one or both partners having poorly developed self-control. Over-controlling results from lack of self-control. Control freaks, usually unbeknownst to themselves, attempt to control other people when they feel out of control of themselves. Those that they attempt to control may fight back, realizing that the control freak is trampling on their boundaries. Hence it may appear that a power struggle is ensuing.
However, this is not a true power struggle. A true power struggle is when two persons wrestle over control of a neutral, separate issue, situation or person.Those who are attempting to avoid being controlled by the control freak are simply asserting their boundaries. This is healthy behavior. But it doesn't usually look very pretty. No matter how calmly boundaries are enforced the control freak doesn't like it. She/He rages, sulks, hits below the belt, tries to intimidate and/or shame her partner back into her web of control. She's not in control of herself. She/He feels it and panics. She instinctively grasps for something or someone external control. (in this instance the alert button) Why?

Let's look at control freaks from a developmental perspective. Self-control is the basis for real control or power. Control freaks lack true self-control. There are three types of control freaks. There is your garden variety control freak. He's not in charge of his emotions so he wants control of yours.He may exhibit addictive behaviors, chronic outbursts of rage, tantrums (yes adults can throw tantrums), storms of weeping, Attention Deficit with Hyperactive Disorder (ADHD) behaviors, giddy roller-coaster emotions. The ADHD control freak was typically over-controlled as a kid. He was not given room to develop his own self-control. He was constantly under a watchful, critical, distrusting parental eye.

Control freaks may manifest control issues by appearing rigid or ultra-controlled. Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a sign of lack of self-control. By rigidly managing minuscule details, down to the letter, they are attempting to control the more important issues: their emotions and actions. They can not survive without out punctilious order and woe to you if you are a bit of a slob. These people were often under-controlled as children. They now need rigidity for comfort and security. These children may have felt a sense of endangerment, betrayal or abandonment as children. Children of substance abusers and addictive personalities develop OCD issues, too.

more at link:
http://voices.yahoo.com/control-freaks-power-struggles-relationships-3890082.html

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:07 AM

18. So now, Let me make sure I understand the Community Standards of DU --

It is A-OK to go into Meta and accuse 2Aers of being Paranoid, Nasty Extremists but,

It is NOT ok to even suggest or imply that Anti2Aers might be OCD.

Have I got this right?

Paranoia is a Mental Disorder and it is OK to say that about 2Aers but,

It is NOT ok to suggest that the other side might also suffer from a Mental Disorder known as OCD.

Have I got that right?

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:13 AM

19. Apparently so.

 

Here's an idea, start a thread in Meta about this, after all, that's what one well known member does when he doesn't get his way.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:28 AM

20. As a black man, I have seen this all my life. To see it at DU is disheartening


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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #20)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:34 AM

21. This has gone too far. I understand people's frustration with this group but, to use that phrase

is just Over The Top.

We Are Better Than This.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:42 AM

22. Can someone please explain for me?

I've been inattentive for a few days, and I am not certain what Tuesday Afternoon is referencing. Can someone clear this up for me?

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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:57 AM

23. This post I believe

 

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #23)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:27 AM

24. How is that different than "Most gun nuts are criminals"?

Just another reason to show why the Jury system fails the Gungeon so routinely, and why independent arbitration is more necessary than in other groups.

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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 11:29 AM

25. Beats the hell out of me.

 

I agree with you.

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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:19 PM

30. The difference is My Post got Hidden and the Other One Did not -

can you say Double Standard exists and is alive and well on DU.

I, for one, am sick of it and I am not going to take it any more.

fuck the dumb.

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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #24)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 01:09 PM

35. It's EZ: The jury system allows for a huge double standard...

Punk someone all day, get away with it, get your moral jollies (in meta, I guess), and pop any pro 2A poster for the lamest reason.

I said years ago that the controller/banner would do anything to get this group trashed.

They found it with the inquisitorial jury system.

The Gungeon has been made into a political gang bang where prohibitionists can be excused for their punk actions.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:05 PM

26. For Once I am Going to Rec my own Thread (toot my own horn) and send this to

The Greatest Page.

DU: We Are Better Than This!!!!!

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #26)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:07 PM

27. Recced as well.

We're D.U. Not Freepers.

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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #27)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:09 PM

28. Thank You.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:37 PM

33. Recced as well.

 

We're just as loyal progressive Dems as anyone else here despite the naysayers.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #33)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 02:07 PM

34. thanks

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:03 PM

37. Really what you shouldn't do is post Jonah Goldberg rw nuttery.

It is in the TOS: don't be a wingnut.

If you do not understand where the "gun control is holocaust enablement" nonsense comes from, your really need to educate yourself. If you don't understand why this is deeply offensive to jews, liberals, progressives, and almost everyone out of this little gun enthusiast bubble, you need to educate yourself.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #37)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:09 PM

38. go talk to Holden and who are you to say that I myself am not of the Jewish persuasion.

As for the ToS let me quote you the Flip Side of That Coin:

Neither are certain extreme-fringe left-wingers, including advocates of violent political/social change, hard-line communists, terrorist-apologists, America-haters, kooks, crackpots, LaRouchies, and the like.

You need to get outside the box, Square.

and btw - since when did you give a shit what goes on here in GC&RKBA?

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #37)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:23 PM

39. You do realize that if one posts here it doesn't matter which side they post - for or against --

as far as the rest of DU is concerned Both Sides are Second Class Citizens and are NOT to use the Main Lobby.

You understand this, right?

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #37)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:29 PM

40. I thought Goldburg's thesis was

a sterling example of a genetic fallacy, which mostly had more to do with Italian and German governments use mixed economies and Keynesian economics (which we agree is a good thing) and the fact that a few progressives during the Progressive era, embrace of eugenics. Something, I'm sure neither of us support. At least that is what I got from watching the spiel on CSPAN some years ago. I'm not about to give the asshole any royalty money, and my library doesn't have it. Either way, I don't see the connection with this conversation. Maybe I need to read the book.
Since DR could be just as easily referring to the Armenian genocide in Turkey, or any number of genocides. It is not exclusively the Holocaust.
If you really want to mess with some fundie who takes this sort of thing seriously, you could mention that William Jennings Bryan was a creationist and liberal Democrat. The guy who wrote the Pledge of Allegiance was a Baptist minister and a socialist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jennings_Bryan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bellamy

Since fascist is as misused as socialist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #40)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:42 PM

41. Interestingly enough...

...the "under God" was Ike's idea, not the Bellamy's.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #41)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 06:04 PM

42. I like Bellamy's version better

"with equality and justice for all."

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #42)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 06:20 PM

44. Equality, yes.

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