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Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:14 PM

 

What happened to personal responsibility ?

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I ask this because in every article that a gun grabber posts has nothing to do with holding the person that caused the damage responsible for their actions.

Instead said Persons/groups want to blame the weapon that was misused,or someone other than the person that comitted the criminal actions.

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Reply What happened to personal responsibility ? (Original post)
Db Owen97 Oct 2012 OP
ellisonz Oct 2012 #1
gejohnston Oct 2012 #2
Db Owen97 Oct 2012 #3
upaloopa Oct 2012 #4
gejohnston Oct 2012 #6
PavePusher Oct 2012 #8
oneshooter Oct 2012 #13
holdencaufield Oct 2012 #20
RegieRocker Oct 2012 #5
Db Owen97 Oct 2012 #7
holdencaufield Oct 2012 #21
ileus Oct 2012 #9
Db Owen97 Oct 2012 #10
fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #11
Db Owen97 Oct 2012 #12
fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #14
Berserker Oct 2012 #15
discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #18
gejohnston Oct 2012 #17
holdencaufield Oct 2012 #16
discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #19
fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #22
krispos42 Oct 2012 #23

Response to Db Owen97 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:24 PM

1. What's a gun grabber?

Are the majority of Democrats gun grabbers?

Just asking.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:31 PM

2. any prohibitionist

and I don't think the majority of Democrats. Majority of Greens maybe. It would also include some Republicans and DINOs like McCarthey, who ran as a Democrat only because she lost a Republican primary. She was still a registered Republican until 2003. Granted, she is a traditional "Rockerfeller Republican" and not one of the right wing radicals. Her support for Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act would not make her a real Democrat in my view. That does not mean that a disagree with her on all things. I do disgree with her on those two issues.

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Response to Db Owen97 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:37 PM

3. I never said that it was on one side of the aisle....

 

I'm saying that from what I have seen the Pro-control groups never seem to put the blame on the person that chose to commit a violent act.

The afore mentioned groups always seem to target the object used or a group of people that didn't have anything to do with the situation.


Its kind of like this....

Person A goes on a rampage

Person B Then seeks to blame person C,even though Person C had nothing to do with the matter at hand and was busy working on his/her car,mowing the lawn,ect.

Which strikes me as more than a bit insane.

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Response to Db Owen97 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:40 PM

4. The gunners said the story behind the shooting of

the little girl because the shooter thought she was a skunk was poor target identification.
They never seem to show any empathy for the person who was shoot.
After reading the gunners posts I have come to believe that the gunners lack something normal people have.
One thing they do have is the need to alert any post that comes close to telling it like it is.
We give them way too much deference.
Normal people do not give much thought during the day to feaTrs that someone is going to attack them. Gunners carry a weapon which means they constantly think they may be attacked.

I personally have no respect for their gunner memes or talking points. People do not want to live in a society where everyone feels they need to carry a gun or one where the next guy is armed.
Gunner thinking is not healthy in my opinion.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:48 PM

6. I didn't see any empathy from your side

there there was, how was it expressed? The only empathy from prohibitionists I've seen have been for violent felons while calling the ones defending themselves "racist vigilantes".

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:57 PM

8. "One thing they do have is the need to alert any post that comes close to telling it like it is."

 

You advocated criminal murder on D.U. 6 jurors determined that was not acceptable. Your whining does not make your post any less vile than it was.

Have a good day.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:50 PM

13. Of course we all know your true feelings.

upaloopa This message was hidden by Jury decision. Hide
3. The more gunners shoot each other the closer we get to peace

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:39 PM

20. "People do not want to live in a society ... where the next guy is armed"

 

So, when will you be moving? And where?

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Response to Db Owen97 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:42 PM

5. First of all

 

Personal responsibility is a repug twisted out of context venue. Second, Although I am a Democrat and also believe in the 2nd amendment, there are devices or materials that are two dangerous to be allowed mainstream. Such as dynamite. Just as there are right wing extremists there are also left wing extremists. Too often both groups mark each of their parties with their viewpoints and not the parties majority. For 8 years Bush was president never did Roe vs Wade get challenged. Neither will guns get conficated with Obama. It's all b.s. to sway the dumbasses to vote repuglican.

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Response to RegieRocker (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:55 PM

7. And did anyone except yourself mention ....

 

Explosives?

I don't recall mentioning explosives.


Why is it that Pro-Control folks always try to side track the issue at hand with something else?



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Response to RegieRocker (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:40 PM

21. You can have my dynamite ...

 

... when you pry it from my cold, dead hands

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Response to Db Owen97 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:04 PM

9. Guns kill people

I've read it here many many times....


If not for evil deathspewers the innocent user would be watching Dr. Phil right now.

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Response to ileus (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:11 PM

10. And if Monkeys were to somehow fly out...

 

Of my bum,dogs could talk in accents to match their breed name,and everything would be happily ever after for all of us.

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Response to Db Owen97 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:25 PM

11. Responsibility

Where is the personal responsibility from the gun clutching community to insure these repeated offenses by members of their community do not happen again?

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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:35 PM

12. First Off....

 

Is it your fault when weapons other than firearms are used in violent attacks by criminals and insane members of society?

I'll ask again,why blame someone or a group of individuals for an act that someone else carried out?

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Response to Db Owen97 (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:35 PM

14. Take Responsibility for Your Community

Join those who want to end gun violence.

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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:44 PM

15. Our community is not responsible for any shootings

 

shootings are done by criminals and the mentally unstable. Try and make sense when you post and not just one liners spewing hatred toward RKBA community.

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Response to Berserker (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:34 PM

18. Yeah...

...I can almost hear the pro-control group humming louder so they can't hear you.

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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:19 PM

17. ever heard of a criminologist named James Wright?

In a speech to congress back in the early 1990s, he mentioned the absurdity of big city mayors blaming deer hunters in Montana for their crime problems, or words to that effect. That sounds like what you are doing. That and the party giving rural US the finger in the 1970s allowed colonists from California, like Jan Brewer, fuck up Arizona. But, I digress.

Since federal law prohibits a private seller from doing background checks, what you expect our community to do?
Since it is the responsibility of law enforcement to enforce federal gun control laws, in this case the Lautenberg Amendment, what do you expect our community do do about it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_Violence_Offender_Gun_Ban

The shooter is the only person responsible for violating federal and state law.

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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:48 PM

16. Do you not know the meaning of personal?

 

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:37 PM

19. "personal"

It means to controllers what all words mean, whatever their leadership says they mean.

Words like rights, militia, "assault weapon"...

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:04 PM

22. Own Your Community and Take Personal Responsibilty for Changing It

























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Response to Db Owen97 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:05 PM

23. Locking

While this post might be a good as a point of argument in a discussion, as an Original Post it does not fall under the SoP of the Group.

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Krispos42, Group Host

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