Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:22 PM

upaloopa (2,092 posts)

Three more innocent people shot today in FL

by a previously law abiding gun owner.
Of course it is getting so regular we don't pay attention ant more.

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Three more innocent people shot today in FL (Original post)	upaloopa	Oct 2012	OP
linksy poo? nt	99th_Monkey	Oct 2012	#1
Google fl beauty parlor shooting I am using a I-phone	upaloopa	Oct 2012	#2
Where does it say he was previously law-abiding?	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2012	#3
Geez ! The thing most important here is 3 people were shot!	upaloopa	Oct 2012	#4
That was not what you seemed concerned about in your O.P. n/t	PavePusher	Oct 2012	#6
You might start with the importance of truth...	Eleanors38	Oct 2012	#13
What the hell? I got to produce a police rap sheet or not?	upaloopa	Oct 2012	#5
well, don't claim facts	gejohnston	Oct 2012	#7
You ain't even worth talking to.	upaloopa	Oct 2012	#8
I don't see any sympathy for them in your OP.	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2012	#9
My deepest condolences to the victims of this nut case.	glacierbay	Oct 2012	#27
You are very bad at this. nt	Union Scribe	Oct 2012	#35
You are being asked to prove what you claimed.	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2012	#10
"previously law abiding gun owner." Your words. Back them up. nt	Eleanors38	Oct 2012	#14
Link to article ...	spin	Oct 2012	#11
Keep shaking that bloody t-shirt in indignation. People who capitalize on tradgedies are sick. nt	rDigital	Oct 2012	#12
He just think his morals are more moral than your morals...	Eleanors38	Oct 2012	#17
Three questions...	slackmaster	Oct 2012	#15
Saw it on the cartoon network. nt	Remmah2	Oct 2012	#36
I dont understand why some people blame the weapons	darkangel218	Oct 2012	#16
The same type that bans words, bans firearms. nt	rDigital	Oct 2012	#18
Yah i know.	darkangel218	Oct 2012	#20
It's the same mentality as people who want to ban all abortions	slackmaster	Oct 2012	#19
This message was self-deleted by its author	darkangel218	Oct 2012	#21
You may want to edit your title.	CokeMachine	Oct 2012	#22
Yah i forgot about that. thanx n/t	darkangel218	Oct 2012	#23
Did you go spigotty on me again, darkangel?	slackmaster	Oct 2012	#26
Yup i like being spigotish :p its lots of fun!	darkangel218	Oct 2012	#28
He was served with a domestic violence injunction	ileus	Oct 2012	#24
That means it was illegal for him to have a gun.	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2012	#29
More info	ileus	Oct 2012	#25
GREAT FIND! N/T	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2012	#30
He wasn't law-biding. Previous violent felony arrests.	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2012	#31
I think it is settled that you were just making stuff up at this point.	ProgressiveProfessor	Oct 2012	#32
Just another example of the faith-promoting rumor beloved of that lot. Bookmark this thread.	friendly_iconoclast	Oct 2012	#33
Would you like an extinguisher?	PavePusher	Oct 2012	#34
He had a lengthy criminal history.	Atypical Liberal	Oct 2012	#37
What happened to the OP poster?	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2012	#38
I think he/she ran away when their cupidity was uncovered	DonP	Oct 2012	#39
Petitioning for a name change	OriginalGeek	Oct 2012	#41
OP = Thrashed. Please sir, may I have another? nt	rDigital	Oct 2012	#40
The shooter's arrest record: domestic assault, felony assault, stalking, burglary and ...	spin	Oct 2012	#42
OP never had a chance.	Clames	Oct 2012	#43

Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:25 PM

99th_Monkey (7,210 posts)

1. linksy poo? nt

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:36 PM

upaloopa (2,092 posts)

2. Google fl beauty parlor shooting I am using a I-phone

Last edited Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:37 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

and can't post the link.

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:43 PM

GreenStormCloud (10,180 posts)

3. Where does it say he was previously law-abiding?

I assume you are refering to this shooting: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/3-killed-1-wounded-hair-salon-shooting-article-1.1186723

I googled and looked at all the responses. None of them say whether or not he had a police record. I did find this:

"My cousin, he's been having problems," one of them said. "He's mentally not there. We've been telling her dad, just keep away from him, keep away from him. Get a restraining order."

Two other women escaped the shooting unharmed, according to WESH-TV.

Seminole County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Heather Smith said the suspected shooter told the couple at the house where he committed suicide that he was having "some problems" before he pulled the trigger.

Definately an arguement for better access to mental care.

Unless you can provide a link that shows that he was a legal gun owner then it appears you are just making stuff up.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:54 PM

upaloopa (2,092 posts)

4. Geez ! The thing most important here is 3 people were shot!

I will never understand people with your thinking

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:12 PM

PavePusher (15,374 posts)

6. That was not what you seemed concerned about in your O.P. n/t

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:18 PM

Eleanors38 (3,497 posts)

13. You might start with the importance of truth...

Was he a previously law-abiding person or not?

You do claim he is one, don't you?

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:56 PM

upaloopa (2,092 posts)

5. What the hell? I got to produce a police rap sheet or not?

Sick!

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:29 PM

gejohnston (12,599 posts)

7. well, don't claim facts

not in evidence. For all you know he might have bought the gun from a trafficker who bought from an NYC cop.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-07-13/news/32667077_1_support-drug-habit-drug-ring-drug-dealer

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:36 PM

upaloopa (2,092 posts)

8. You ain't even worth talking to.

You don't even have the heart to feel sympathy for shooting victims.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:39 PM

GreenStormCloud (10,180 posts)

9. I don't see any sympathy for them in your OP.

All I see in your OP is your attempt to take advantage of a tragedy to further your agenda.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:58 PM

glacierbay (2,477 posts)

27. My deepest condolences to the victims of this nut case.

And as for you, pot, meet kettle. You have no room to talk, not once did you express sympathy for the victims on this thread.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:17 AM

Union Scribe (4,729 posts)

35. You are very bad at this. nt

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:41 PM

GreenStormCloud (10,180 posts)

10. You are being asked to prove what you claimed.

You claimed that he was law-abiding, so prove it.

Looks like I caught you making stuff up to further your agenda.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:20 PM

Eleanors38 (3,497 posts)

14. "previously law abiding gun owner." Your words. Back them up. nt

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:41 PM

spin (14,739 posts)

11. Link to article ...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/dead-central-fla-beauty-salon-shooting-17509338#.UIB3WFHP5fo

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:16 PM

rDigital (2,239 posts)

12. Keep shaking that bloody t-shirt in indignation. People who capitalize on tradgedies are sick. nt

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Response to rDigital (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:26 PM

Eleanors38 (3,497 posts)

17. He just think his morals are more moral than your morals...

So he can splat anything against the wall; trouble is, he thinks he shouldn't have his hand called when he does.

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:24 PM

slackmaster (60,567 posts)

15. Three questions...

1. How do you know they were innocent?

2. How do you know they were shot?

3. How do you know that the person who shot them was previously law-abiding?

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 19, 2012, 10:40 AM

Remmah2 (3,291 posts)

36. Saw it on the cartoon network. nt

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:25 PM

darkangel218 (4,550 posts)

16. I dont understand why some people blame the weapons

As being the guilty part.

ANYTHING can pretty much be used as a weapon! Think about it! Are you going to ban all objects that may/ could be used as a weapon??

I'll never get your resoning.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:29 PM

rDigital (2,239 posts)

18. The same type that bans words, bans firearms. nt

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Response to rDigital (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:31 PM

darkangel218 (4,550 posts)

20. Yah i know.

What would slackmaster do without his right to call my posts spigottish :p

Jk.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:30 PM

slackmaster (60,567 posts)

19. It's the same mentality as people who want to ban all abortions

A narcissistic belief that they know better than other people what is best for them.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:40 PM

CokeMachine (595 posts)

22. You may want to edit your title.

The word police don't like the use of the "R" word. You may get alerted if they see it.

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Response to CokeMachine (Reply #22)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:46 PM

darkangel218 (4,550 posts)

23. Yah i forgot about that. thanx n/t

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:54 PM

slackmaster (60,567 posts)

26. Did you go spigotty on me again, darkangel?

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #26)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:00 PM

darkangel218 (4,550 posts)

28. Yup i like being spigotish :p its lots of fun!

This weekend I'm going to the shooting range, even more fun

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:46 PM

ileus (9,216 posts)

24. He was served with a domestic violence injunction

The gunman, identified by police as Bradford Baumet, was served with a domestic violence injunction Oct. 9 and scheduled to be in Orange County court Thursday for a hearing with the salon's manager, Marcia Santiago, who took out the restraining order. Their relationship was not immediately clear.

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I don't know about you but if I had a domestic violence injunction taken out against someone, I'd never turn my back on a door, and would sure not be caught unarmed.

Can't wait until in the morning when Mike has his "guns are bad news for women" post.

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Response to ileus (Reply #24)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:46 PM

GreenStormCloud (10,180 posts)

29. That means it was illegal for him to have a gun.

So, a person who decides to murder ignores gun laws. What else is new?

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Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:49 PM

ileus (9,216 posts)

25. More info

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/dead-central-fla-beauty-salon-shooting-17509338#.UICHe2_7IkQ

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Response to ileus (Reply #25)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:48 PM

GreenStormCloud (10,180 posts)

30. GREAT FIND! N/T

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:21 PM

GreenStormCloud (10,180 posts)

31. He wasn't law-biding. Previous violent felony arrests.

You have been solidly caught making stuff up for your agenda. Commonly called lying.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/dead-central-fla-beauty-salon-shooting-17509338#.UICHe2_7IkQ

Records in Florida and Rhode Island show Baumet has been previously arrested for domestic assault, felony assault, stalking, burglary and drug possession.

The article doesn't specifically say but I would bet that there are some convictions in there too.

Mugshot here: http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Seminole-County-FL/Bradford-Baumet.2558615.html

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:47 PM

ProgressiveProfessor (22,144 posts)

32. I think it is settled that you were just making stuff up at this point.

Seems like everyone here cares about both the victims and the truth except...

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #32)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:32 PM

friendly_iconoclast (8,860 posts)

33. Just another example of the faith-promoting rumor beloved of that lot. Bookmark this thread.

Last edited Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:36 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

It belongs with the tales of the black white supremacist, the "man with an AK47 in Moscow, Idaho", and the poster who resides simultaneously in Oregon and Italy...

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Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:40 AM

PavePusher (15,374 posts)

34. Would you like an extinguisher?

It seems your trousers are combusting.

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:56 AM

Atypical Liberal (5,412 posts)

37. He had a lengthy criminal history.

Three more innocent people shot today in FL by a previously law abiding gun owner.

Nope. He had a lengthy criminal history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xE-kxfqmKOQ&list=UUnwI-VN5jXWIGQKOI9PMDMw

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:34 PM

GreenStormCloud (10,180 posts)

38. What happened to the OP poster?

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #38)

Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:44 PM

DonP (3,723 posts)

39. I think he/she ran away when their cupidity was uncovered

Just another drive by poster that disappears as soon as their falsehoods are pointed out. The only thing missing was that last angry post blaming everything on NRA talking points an accusing us all of being NRA shills.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #38)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:08 PM

OriginalGeek (5,509 posts)

41. Petitioning for a name change

to Oops-a-loopa

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:25 AM

rDigital (2,239 posts)

40. OP = Thrashed. Please sir, may I have another? nt

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:08 PM

spin (14,739 posts)

42. The shooter's arrest record: domestic assault, felony assault, stalking, burglary and ...

drug possession.
(source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/dead-central-fla-beauty-salon-shooting-17509338#.UInBA4a8_Dp)

The incident is indeed tragic but the shooter is NOT an example of a "previously law abiding gun owner" as you suggested. He was not an honest and responsible gun owner who just suddenly ran amok.

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:43 PM

Clames (2,038 posts)

43. OP never had a chance.

Not even his fellow anti-gunners did much to help with this one...

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