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Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:22 PM

Three more innocent people shot today in FL

by a previously law abiding gun owner.
Of course it is getting so regular we don't pay attention ant more.

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Reply Three more innocent people shot today in FL (Original post)
upaloopa Oct 2012 OP
99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #1
upaloopa Oct 2012 #2
GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #3
upaloopa Oct 2012 #4
PavePusher Oct 2012 #6
Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #13
upaloopa Oct 2012 #5
gejohnston Oct 2012 #7
upaloopa Oct 2012 #8
GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #9
glacierbay Oct 2012 #27
Union Scribe Oct 2012 #35
GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #10
Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #14
spin Oct 2012 #11
rDigital Oct 2012 #12
Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #17
slackmaster Oct 2012 #15
Remmah2 Oct 2012 #36
darkangel218 Oct 2012 #16
rDigital Oct 2012 #18
darkangel218 Oct 2012 #20
slackmaster Oct 2012 #19
darkangel218 Oct 2012 #21
CokeMachine Oct 2012 #22
darkangel218 Oct 2012 #23
slackmaster Oct 2012 #26
darkangel218 Oct 2012 #28
ileus Oct 2012 #24
GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #29
ileus Oct 2012 #25
GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #30
GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #31
ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #32
friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #33
PavePusher Oct 2012 #34
Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #37
GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #38
DonP Oct 2012 #39
OriginalGeek Oct 2012 #41
rDigital Oct 2012 #40
spin Oct 2012 #42
Clames Oct 2012 #43

Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:25 PM

1. linksy poo? nt

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:36 PM

2. Google fl beauty parlor shooting I am using a I-phone

and can't post the link.

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:43 PM

3. Where does it say he was previously law-abiding?

I assume you are refering to this shooting: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/3-killed-1-wounded-hair-salon-shooting-article-1.1186723

I googled and looked at all the responses. None of them say whether or not he had a police record. I did find this:

"My cousin, he's been having problems," one of them said. "He's mentally not there. We've been telling her dad, just keep away from him, keep away from him. Get a restraining order."

Two other women escaped the shooting unharmed, according to WESH-TV.

Seminole County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Heather Smith said the suspected shooter told the couple at the house where he committed suicide that he was having "some problems" before he pulled the trigger.


Definately an arguement for better access to mental care.

Unless you can provide a link that shows that he was a legal gun owner then it appears you are just making stuff up.


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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:54 PM

4. Geez ! The thing most important here is 3 people were shot!

I will never understand people with your thinking

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:12 PM

6. That was not what you seemed concerned about in your O.P. n/t

 

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:18 PM

13. You might start with the importance of truth...

Was he a previously law-abiding person or not?

You do claim he is one, don't you?

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:56 PM

5. What the hell? I got to produce a police rap sheet or not?

Sick!

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:29 PM

7. well, don't claim facts

not in evidence. For all you know he might have bought the gun from a trafficker who bought from an NYC cop.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-07-13/news/32667077_1_support-drug-habit-drug-ring-drug-dealer

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:36 PM

8. You ain't even worth talking to.

You don't even have the heart to feel sympathy for shooting victims.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:39 PM

9. I don't see any sympathy for them in your OP.

All I see in your OP is your attempt to take advantage of a tragedy to further your agenda.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:58 PM

27. My deepest condolences to the victims of this nut case.

 

And as for you, pot, meet kettle. You have no room to talk, not once did you express sympathy for the victims on this thread.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:17 AM

35. You are very bad at this. nt

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:41 PM

10. You are being asked to prove what you claimed.

You claimed that he was law-abiding, so prove it.

Looks like I caught you making stuff up to further your agenda.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:20 PM

14. "previously law abiding gun owner." Your words. Back them up. nt

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:16 PM

12. Keep shaking that bloody t-shirt in indignation. People who capitalize on tradgedies are sick. nt

 

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Response to rDigital (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:26 PM

17. He just think his morals are more moral than your morals...

So he can splat anything against the wall; trouble is, he thinks he shouldn't have his hand called when he does.

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:24 PM

15. Three questions...

 

1. How do you know they were innocent?

2. How do you know they were shot?

3. How do you know that the person who shot them was previously law-abiding?

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 19, 2012, 10:40 AM

36. Saw it on the cartoon network. nt

 

nt

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:25 PM

16. I dont understand why some people blame the weapons

As being the guilty part.

ANYTHING can pretty much be used as a weapon! Think about it! Are you going to ban all objects that may/ could be used as a weapon??

I'll never get your resoning.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:29 PM

18. The same type that bans words, bans firearms. nt

 

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Response to rDigital (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:31 PM

20. Yah i know.

What would slackmaster do without his right to call my posts spigottish :p

Jk.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:30 PM

19. It's the same mentality as people who want to ban all abortions

 

A narcissistic belief that they know better than other people what is best for them.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:40 PM

22. You may want to edit your title.

 

The word police don't like the use of the "R" word. You may get alerted if they see it.

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Response to CokeMachine (Reply #22)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:46 PM

23. Yah i forgot about that. thanx n/t

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:54 PM

26. Did you go spigotty on me again, darkangel?

 

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #26)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:00 PM

28. Yup i like being spigotish :p its lots of fun!

This weekend I'm going to the shooting range, even more fun

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:46 PM

24. He was served with a domestic violence injunction

The gunman, identified by police as Bradford Baumet, was served with a domestic violence injunction Oct. 9 and scheduled to be in Orange County court Thursday for a hearing with the salon's manager, Marcia Santiago, who took out the restraining order. Their relationship was not immediately clear.

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I don't know about you but if I had a domestic violence injunction taken out against someone, I'd never turn my back on a door, and would sure not be caught unarmed.

Can't wait until in the morning when Mike has his "guns are bad news for women" post.

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Response to ileus (Reply #24)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:46 PM

29. That means it was illegal for him to have a gun.

So, a person who decides to murder ignores gun laws. What else is new?

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Response to ileus (Reply #25)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:48 PM

30. GREAT FIND! N/T

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:21 PM

31. He wasn't law-biding. Previous violent felony arrests.

You have been solidly caught making stuff up for your agenda. Commonly called lying.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/dead-central-fla-beauty-salon-shooting-17509338#.UICHe2_7IkQ

Records in Florida and Rhode Island show Baumet has been previously arrested for domestic assault, felony assault, stalking, burglary and drug possession.

The article doesn't specifically say but I would bet that there are some convictions in there too.

Mugshot here: http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Seminole-County-FL/Bradford-Baumet.2558615.html


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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:47 PM

32. I think it is settled that you were just making stuff up at this point.

Seems like everyone here cares about both the victims and the truth except...

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #32)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:32 PM

33. Just another example of the faith-promoting rumor beloved of that lot. Bookmark this thread.

It belongs with the tales of the black white supremacist, the "man with an AK47 in Moscow, Idaho", and the poster who resides simultaneously in Oregon and Italy...

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:40 AM

34. Would you like an extinguisher?

 

It seems your trousers are combusting.

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:56 AM

37. He had a lengthy criminal history.

 

Three more innocent people shot today in FL by a previously law abiding gun owner.

Nope. He had a lengthy criminal history.

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:34 PM

38. What happened to the OP poster?

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #38)

Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:44 PM

39. I think he/she ran away when their cupidity was uncovered

Just another drive by poster that disappears as soon as their falsehoods are pointed out. The only thing missing was that last angry post blaming everything on NRA talking points an accusing us all of being NRA shills.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #38)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:08 PM

41. Petitioning for a name change

to Oops-a-loopa

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:25 AM

40. OP = Thrashed. Please sir, may I have another? nt

 

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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:08 PM

42. The shooter's arrest record: domestic assault, felony assault, stalking, burglary and ...

drug possession.
(source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/dead-central-fla-beauty-salon-shooting-17509338#.UInBA4a8_Dp)

The incident is indeed tragic but the shooter is NOT an example of a "previously law abiding gun owner" as you suggested. He was not an honest and responsible gun owner who just suddenly ran amok.








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Response to upaloopa (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:43 PM

43. OP never had a chance.

 

Not even his fellow anti-gunners did much to help with this one...

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