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Thu Sep 6, 2012, 11:41 AM

 

Store owner requires employees to have CCW permit

Detectives say there are two suspects, but their descriptions are vague.  However, the getaway vehicle stands out.  Police are now looking for a tan or white scooter, possibly a Vespa brand.

Haddad believes these robbers may live nearby and calls it a shame they would target a locally owned store.

"It's a shame for me because I lose employees because of it every time," he said.

Now he is changing policies, a sign at the Cary Street market says no customer can cover their face inside the store.  He is also now requiring all employees to have a license to carry a concealed weapon.



Nice to see store owners are realizing that criminals like softer targets.


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Reply Store owner requires employees to have CCW permit (Original post)
Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 OP
Remmah2 Sep 2012 #1
Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #2
GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #3
holdencaufield Sep 2012 #4
slackmaster Sep 2012 #5
4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #6
rrneck Sep 2012 #7
Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #9
holdencaufield Sep 2012 #11
eqfan592 Sep 2012 #12
Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #13
eqfan592 Sep 2012 #14
Nay Sep 2012 #8
gejohnston Sep 2012 #10
littlewolf Sep 2012 #16
PavePusher Sep 2012 #15
trouble.smith Sep 2012 #17

Response to Reasonable_Argument (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 11:53 AM

1. What's wrong with that?

 

CCW permits require an extensive criminal background check.

The requirement was for a CCW, not to carry a firearm to work.

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Response to Remmah2 (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:00 PM

2. No problem here

 

I support his decision

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Response to Reasonable_Argument (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:14 PM

3. An increasing number of places are requiring hoodies to be pulled down on entering.

I know, the topic is about CCW, but I noticed that in the OP too. A few weeks ago, I saw a guy on a Texas hot sunny August day wearing a hoodie with the hood up. Temperature was 100+. I kept an eye on him until I had my gas and was gone. If that is profiling - so be it.

If the owner of that business posts one of guns-in-a-green-circle signs he may get increased customer traffic.

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Response to Reasonable_Argument (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:15 PM

4. I would both ...

 

... work and or shop there.

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Response to Reasonable_Argument (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:35 PM

5. This is a rare case of California having a more sensible gun law than Virginia

 

You don't need a CCW permit to carry a concealed firearm at your workplace here. You need only the permission of the business owner.

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Response to Reasonable_Argument (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:39 PM

6. Since legally held guns are useless to prevent crimes and only provide the criminal

 

with a free gun I assume that following this decision his store will be robbed daily.

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Response to Reasonable_Argument (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:07 PM

7. As long as he pays for it. nt

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Response to rrneck (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:25 PM

9. Considering what they make

 

I would hope he helps them out on the cost of a weapon and holster if they don't have one. A good pistol and leather can easily hit the $700-800+ range.

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Response to Reasonable_Argument (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:32 PM

11. The Hell you say ...

 

... I paid $650 just for one set of gun leather (custom-made Kirkpatrick Long-Hunter dual-holster rig), not to mention the matched-pair of Ruger Vaqueros in .357 that fill them.

Worth every penny.

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Response to Reasonable_Argument (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:36 PM

12. You just gotta know how to bargain hunt. :)

CZ-82 with Ramora IWB holster (no clips on that thing, very comfortable!), along with some ammo, total cost around $300. Tho in fairness, I do have an FFL03, so I was able to have it shipped directly to me so no transfer fees were involved.

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Response to eqfan592 (Reply #12)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:40 PM

13. Good point

 

I wasn't thinking about C&R weapons.

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Response to Reasonable_Argument (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:43 PM

14. I think CZ-82's are one of the best deals going on right now.

Low price point but very good quality, and with it being C&R eligible, FFL03 holders don't have to worry about transfer fees. Good stuff.

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Response to Reasonable_Argument (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:10 PM

8. I'm a gun owner, but I can't understand the reason this shop owner wants his employees to

have a CCW permit. Will he require them to be armed while working there? Will he expect them to pull the weapon when they are about to be robbed? In other words, does the owner expect his employees to engage in a shootout like cops, for a crappy wage?

I bet those employees don't get paid enough to risk their lives for this guy's nightly take.

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Response to Nay (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:30 PM

10. I'm guessing it is

a cheap way of doing background check without hiring a PI.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #10)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:04 PM

16. that is the way I saw it also ...

ie the hoodie thing .... lots of stores now require the hoodie
to be pulled back .... all banks in this area ... lots of convenience
stores and such .... most pawn shops .....
good idea .....

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Response to Nay (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:50 PM

15. I would lean towards him wanting his employees able to defend themselves if needed.

 

I seriously doubt he can, or would, require them to defend his money with their lives, nor would it be a legally or morally defensible policy.

Of course you can feel free to continue inventing strawmen.

Seriously, that's the first thing you thought of?

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Response to Reasonable_Argument (Original post)

Sun Sep 9, 2012, 04:27 AM

17. I walked into a jewelry store with sunglasses once and the owners very obviously reached for guns

 

behind the counter while shouting at me to take off my sunglasses. I complied of course and all was well. they had been robbed multiple times.

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