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Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:05 AM

Why Young Republicans in Texas are teaming up with the NRA

Many Canadians find the NRA an invidious group and believe it corrupts the debate about gun control in the United States. But in Texas the NRA is widely viewed as a champion of liberty, the most fundamental value of a free society.

In any event, it was a rare opportunity to see how closely the party and the lobby group work together — though if there were radical new ideas about how the game could be played I didn’t hear them.

Mostly it was about communication and networking, about making sure that each of the Young Republicans was properly integrated into the NRA and then signing up those who weren’t already members. It was about ensuring that the rookies had the correct messaging when canvassing for the NRA’s goals.

In a nutshell, it was about establishing an early relationship between the NRA and young Republicans.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/08/22/f-vp-boag-us-election-texas.html

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Reply Why Young Republicans in Texas are teaming up with the NRA (Original post)
SecularMotion Sep 2012 OP
Loudly Sep 2012 #1
Buzz Clik Sep 2012 #2
Walk away Sep 2012 #3
PavePusher Sep 2012 #7
Walk away Sep 2012 #8
PavePusher Sep 2012 #11
spin Sep 2012 #10
krispos42 Sep 2012 #4
gejohnston Sep 2012 #5
gejohnston Sep 2012 #6
ileus Sep 2012 #9

Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:10 AM

1. Kind of like how creationists brainwash their young.

 

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:25 AM

2. In Texas, this is the equation: Young Texan = Young Republican

There are young Dems in Texas, but they are outnumbered.

As Molly Ivins reminded us, even Democrats in Texas are conservative.

Texas is NRA heaven.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:31 AM

3. It must be horrible to live in Texas if you aren't an asshole.

I have a Libertarian client who is retiring to a Dallas suburb in two years. She has already bought the house from the bank who foreclosed on the original family who lived there. She has been at the big banks or on "The Street" thirty five years and only visits Texas at Christmas too see her crazy brother.

I can't wait until the culture shock hits her. She has no idea how liberal she has become.

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Response to Walk away (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 03:34 PM

7. "It must be horrible to live in Texas if you aren't an asshole."

 

Vile fucktarded regional bigotry is still vile fucktarded bigotry.

Shove back up your excretory hole.

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 04:00 PM

8. There you go! Proving my point:-)

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Response to Walk away (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 12:20 AM

11. The point being that you are promoting bigotry?

 

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Yep, proven.

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Response to Walk away (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 04:56 PM

10. Many Libertarians support gun rights.

The Libertarianism FAQ

***snip***

B3. What is the libertarian position on gun control?

Consistently opposed. The revolutionaries who kicked out King George based their call for insurrection on the idea that Americans have not only the right but the duty to oppose a tyrannical government with force -- and that duty implies readiness to use force. This is why Thomas Jefferson said that "Firearms are the American yeoman's liberty teeth" and, in common with many of the Founding Fathers, asserted that an armed citizenry is the securest guarantee of freedom. Libertarians assert that "gun control" is a propagandist's lie for "people control", and even if it worked for reducing crime and violence (which it does not; when it's a crime to own guns, only criminals own them) it would be a fatally bad bargain.
http://catb.org/esr/faqs/libertarianism.html#B3


Of course many from the large urban areas such as New York City have little familiarity with firearms and gun owners. Therefore your client might indeed have a cultural shock when she realizes how many gun owners there are in Texas.

However I have worked with people who migrated to Florida from gun unfriendly areas. Many actually decided to buy a firearm and enjoyed target shooting or owned it for self defense. Some obtained a concealed weapons permit and carried a handgun on a regular basis. One co-worker who came from the Bronx in New York City who had a carry permit used his handgun to stop a road raged individual from attacking him. No shot were fired and the situation ended peacefully.

I should point out that I often find those who live in cities like New York tend to look down on those who live in other areas of the nation such as Texas or Florida. For example you stated:


" It must be horrible to live in Texas if you aren't an asshole."


It is also equally sad that those who do live in states like Texas and Florida also have very negative opinions about those who live in cities like New York. I have often heard strong criticism from Floridians about the fact that those from New York city are impolite, pushy and obnoxious.

The truth is that good people live in all areas of our nation. It is also true that good people from these culturally different areas often disagree on issues such as gun control. When an individual moves to Texas or Florida from New York City he/she might discover that many well educated people own and responsibly use firearms while in New York City the very restrictive firearm laws largely limit the ownership of such weapons to the criminal element. Of course that is not always the case.









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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:45 AM

4. I assume that the Brady campaign is working equally hard...

... in California? After all, if the NRA playbook is so effective, then the path to political victory over them involves using their own effectiveness against them, yes?

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 12:00 PM

5. you would think with all the grass roots activists Brady has

Oh wait, their claimed membership is less than half of National Firearms Association's membership. Might be about the same as NRA-UK's.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 12:05 PM

6. Canadian anti gunners seem to be as

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classist and anti rural as their US counterparts. From the comments

Why these people think they need to own many guns is very creepy. This obsession with fear has really given groups like this room to encourage more firepower. Gee maybe a world or country without guns ? maybe just hunters and no more gun collections and mac 10's ? . Yes I understand guns are needed in the woods at times and even in some cases of policing but arsenals and groups of people with arsenals are just the same as a jacked up hillbilly on steroids using his monster truck to hide the fact he has no balls. Des the second amendment mean I have the right to wear a wife beater ? Like they say don't mess with Texas.

NRA = National Redneck Association.

My favorite comment was about buying AR-15 ammo at Wal Mart is not "freedom", odd coming from a country where a 12 year old can buy that very same ammo at Wal Mart.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 04:53 PM

9. The Canadians are afraid of the NRA also?

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