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Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:19 AM

 

If you could make whatever changes your thought were necessary....

If you could whatever changes you thought were necessary as far as firearms/weapons laws are concerned what would you propose?

This is America, but for this experiment, you are able to rewrite the US code and/or US Constitution at will and without any repercussions. The quill is in your hands.

What changes would you make or not make.

I'll go first:

1. Re-open the NFA registry, remove the $200 tax, make it $0, and require all transfers to be completed within 2 weeks. Remove suppressors, SBR's and SBS's from NFA and no CLEO sign-off.
2. National Firearms Carry license reciprocity and make all states SHALL issue and without location restrictions.
3. I would remove all ammo and firearm import restrictions.
4. Absolute NICS enforcement, require ALL straw purchases and failed checks to be prosecuted.
5. Make sure that those adjudicated "mentally incompetent" were properly added to NICS BG check.
6. Remove the dependent clause from the 2nd Amendment to avoid further confusion among those who cannot comprehend common English language sentence syntax.
7. Allow military surplus to be sold to civilians (firearms & ammo). Military members can take home battlefield trophies and their service weapons.
8. Restoration of 2A rights for non-violent felons.
9. No plea bargaining of weapons charges, heavy minimum sentences for violent crime.
10. Legalize Marijuana and tax it to put money into inner city youth crime diversion programs and mental health awareness programs.

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Response to rDigital (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:30 AM

1. I don't know, there are 3 or 4 of those that only a domestic terrorist would support.

The rest appear to have some merit.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:57 AM

8. Which of the points mentioned would be only supported by a domestic terrorist? (n/t)

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Response to rDigital (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:50 AM

2. Awesome list.

 

I agree all the way.

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Response to Marinedem (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:43 PM

4. Yep, can't help but see that the antis are noticeably absent on this post

 

They will never reveal their endgame, because no one would accept it or support them.

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Response to rDigital (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:00 AM

3. To be fair

 

the CLEO sign-off is actually going away on its own. It's just mired in bureaucracy and taking forever. The BATFE is not very fond of trusts as they enable multiple ownership of NFA items. CLEO sign-off isn't needed for trusts or corporations right now, just people, and that is the main barrier to people purchasing NFA items personally. CLEO sign-off removal helps the BATFE keep more accurate records anyway.


I am pleased to report that all branches and offices within ATF have given the official okey dokey to eliminating the CLEO signature requirements for NFA Forms. This includes Counsel's office and the National Sheriffs' Association! The package has been sent on to the Department of Justice with recommendation for approval. The package will include:

1.Elimination of CLEO signature requirement.
2.Institution of CLEO "notification" similar to an FFL application. (A copy of the form will be sent to the CLEO as opposed to asking for permission.)
3.Trusts and LLC's and corps will still be available for use.
4.In the event of #3, a NICS check will be required when the weapon is physically transferred.
Unknown is whether the Citizenship Compliance form will be eliminated and merged into the various NFA forms instead of being a separate nuisance. ATF is leaning toward elimination."

The NFATCA has been working for several years to make this happen. I am proud to say that we have pushed this agenda item further with better results than we ever have before. ATF and its various branches have reviewed all of the potential issues and suggestions that we have presented. At this point, ATF has actually submitted the issue to the Department of Justice for final approval. We have never been able to get this issue out of ATF's "universe" before. At this point, it could be a matter of weeks or months before we receive final approval. I am hoping that the timing of the November release of several updated NFA forms is a good coincidence. That was the long answer. The short answer is yes, the process is in full swing.

Jeff Folloder
NFA Trade and Collectors Association

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Response to rDigital (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 05:31 AM

5. Still waiting for an opposing viewpoint..... nt

 

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Response to rDigital (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 02:36 AM

9. You used specific terminology that most of them don't understand.

 

My observation has been that 90%+ of the anti-rights people aren't that well-versed in the specifics of the issue.

Not a criticism, if one is going to oppose (vehemently, in some cases) a viewpoint, one should have an understanding of the mechanics of the issue.

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Response to MercutioATC (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 02:49 AM

12. There's an epic anti legal fail unfolding right now in the following thread.

 

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Response to rDigital (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 05:39 AM

6. I like all of that with one addendum to the NCIS part

 

When I got my pistol yesterday we got to talking about people who are wrongly put on hold from NCIS due to somebody screwing up the paperwork on the courts end. So add in an appeal, then prosecute them if they're found to be a criminal. Other than that, great list.

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Response to Reasonable_Argument (Reply #6)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:51 PM

7. I agree 100%. A proper appeals process is warranted. nt

 

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Response to rDigital (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 02:45 AM

10. I like your base list, but i would add a national registry.

It's really the only measure that can deal with the volume of straw purchases we have, and it would help. Balance it with some iron-clad grandfathering of any weapon registered. No ex post facto confiscation, etc.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 02:47 AM

11. Registries lead to confiscation. It happened in California it can happen elsewhere. No go IMHO.

 

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Response to rDigital (Reply #11)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 02:53 AM

13. It happened once under very special circumstances.

I think we should take it as a warning, and ensure that if there is going to be future registry-related legislation, *WE* craft it from the ground up, not try and tack on prophylactic amendments and such.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #13)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:27 PM

14. Well federally it's illegal

 

The "Firearms Owner Protection Act" specifically prohibits a national registry. With good reason.

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Response to Reasonable_Argument (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 4, 2012, 02:04 AM

15. That can be repealed.

Along with the stinking Hughes Amendment that went in with it.

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Response to rDigital (Original post)

Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:53 AM

16. reestablish the state militias and GREATLY reduce the size and scope of our standing army.

 

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