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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:37 AM

 

Subway rider with AK-47 and drugs arrested.

Last edited Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:21 AM - Edit history (1)

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20120802_Subway_rider_with_AK-47_arrested.html?c=r

"25 to 30 pills of Percocet, a powerful painkiller; more than an ounce of marijuana"

Yep, bet this guy had a CCW and was a Life NRA member. I guess easy access to firearms forced him to get the drugs. Can't wait to see this one on the national news.

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Reply Subway rider with AK-47 and drugs arrested. (Original post)
Remmah2 Aug 2012 OP
2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #1
Hangingon Aug 2012 #2
ileus Aug 2012 #3
benEzra Aug 2012 #6
Callisto32 Aug 2012 #9
belcffub Aug 2012 #26
JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2012 #27
belcffub Aug 2012 #29
Remmah2 Aug 2012 #7
Hangingon Aug 2012 #11
Remmah2 Aug 2012 #14
discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #16
Remmah2 Aug 2012 #17
TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #4
Remmah2 Aug 2012 #10
Callisto32 Aug 2012 #12
PavePusher Aug 2012 #5
Remmah2 Aug 2012 #8
Callisto32 Aug 2012 #13
HALO141 Aug 2012 #15
Pacafishmate Aug 2012 #18
Hoyt Aug 2012 #19
ileus Aug 2012 #20
4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #21
friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #22
Hoyt Aug 2012 #24
friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #25
CokeMachine Aug 2012 #28
Jenoch Aug 2012 #23

Response to Remmah2 (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:41 AM

1. won't he be losing that CCW now?

one idiot down.

I'm not against people owning guns. In this day and age no one feels safe in the city and the country folk need protection too. Ak's though should require a special, "I am not an idiot", license to own.

Don't know how to do that. But hopefully a solution will be found.

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Response to Remmah2 (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:45 AM

2. Hard to carry an AK concealed.

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Response to Hangingon (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:50 AM

3. even AK pistols are large.

I was looking at an underfolder Saturday, I'd love to have on just to add to my collection. I'd probably never shoot it, just polish it and enjoy what a fine work of art a good quality AK is.

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Response to Hangingon (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:12 AM

6. That's exactly why rifles and shotguns are so rarely misused

despite their popularity.

I shot competitively with a civilian AK for a while before switching to a Rock River AR. The AK was nearly 3 feet long, eight or ten inches high with a magazine inserted, several inches thick, and weighed something like ten pounds with magazine and optic...and that was a relatively compact 16" barreled model (a ban-era 2002 SAR-1). Loaded magazines were nearly two pounds *each*. Just a spare magazine was considerably bigger and heavier than a 9mm pistol.

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Response to benEzra (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:24 AM

9. I like to bring that up to the U.S. soldiers/airmen that I know...

who complain about how much "better" the AK is....

"Yeah, but who the hell wants to hump an AK and its heavy-ass mags?" Most of them never thought of that.

I want to be fair, the AK and AR are both excellent designs; for my purposes, though, the AR stands head and shoulders above the AK.

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Response to Callisto32 (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 08:28 AM

26. the weight is the real deciding factor....

you can carry three times the ammo in mags for the ar... plus hundreds of extra rounds on stripper clips... if your goal is to put lead down range the AR gets a big plus...

if you are looking to use the mags to beat someone with after they are empty nothing tops the AK... those mags are heavy....

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Response to belcffub (Reply #26)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:54 AM

27. Is there a big difference in weight of ammo?

A modern AK uses 5.54x39 rounds, as opposed to 5.56x45 used in the M16. Is there a big difference in weight?

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #27)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:20 PM

29. not sure

every AK I have ever used was 7.62x39... I assume the steel mags are still where most of the weight comes from...

found this googling around...

The AR mag weighed 14.85 ounces

The AK mag weighed 1 pound 11 ounces

The mags , empty, weighed in at 3.92 ounces for the AR mag, and 13.26 ounces for the AK mag....

Individually, the 5.56 round weighed in at .42 ounces, while the 7.62 x 39 round weighed in at .63 ounces


so if the mags are steel for 7.62 and 5.54 it stands to reason you would still see a good difference between them....

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Response to Hangingon (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:15 AM

7. "The stock and the bayonet had been removed from the AK-47 so it would fit in the bag"

 

Personally I've never seen a bayonet mounted except in museums. Apparently he had it in a shoulder bag.

LOL Bayonet, a real WMD. I guess tetanus would count as biological warfare.

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Response to Remmah2 (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:28 AM

11. You could have a pretty good weekend in Philly with all that,

"Inside, Adorno found a .38-caliber revolver with six rounds in the chamber; the AK-47 with a 40-round clip; the 12-inch hunting knife; from 25 to 30 pills of Percocet, a powerful painkiller; more than an ounce of marijuana; and $716 in cash, she said."

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Response to Hangingon (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:35 AM

14. Good thing he had a 12" hunting knife and not a 12" kitchen knife.

 

$716 cash? Probably off to the casino.

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Response to Remmah2 (Reply #14)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:38 AM

16. I'm firmly convinced...

Last edited Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:36 PM - Edit history (1)

...that he had the knife because he had to remove the bayonet.

I need to find one of those 40 round "clips". Any ideas?


ETA: Oh wait. Searching through other stories I find that the "hunting knife" may actually be the "bayonet" in question.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #16)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:30 PM

17. I guess it would be a bayonet if it had a detachable gun lug.

 

That or if he got caught carrying a roll of duct tape.

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Response to Remmah2 (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:08 AM

4. So what if he had a CCW and NRA card?

What does that have to do with anything?

It's not like he was doing something wrong.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:25 AM

10. Probably a RW, neo-con tea bagger too.

 

Keep in mind all the stereotypes that are cast on legitimate gun owners and all the abuse they take just for breathing and having an opinion.

Criminals are criminals.

Legitimate gun owners should not be blamed for their deeds.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:32 AM

12. You could argue he was not.

Carrying a firearm, nobody gets hurt, no property damaged, no victim.

Carrying drugs, nobody gets hurt, no property damaged, no victim.

Oh man, the "officials" are "shaking their heads" at "what might have happened." DAMN, QUICK someone call precrime!

And, lest we forget, "he had a face on him, like he was up to no good." Thank God the "Viper" ( I think they mean VIPR, so how good is the reporting that can't be bothered to check its facts) team was there. Because of their name we totally know they are there to serve and protect, and not be scary as fuck, like a venomous snake.

Homework: "Malum in se v. Malum prohibitum"

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Response to Remmah2 (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:11 AM

5. Some folks responding are apparently sarcasm-impaired this morning.

 

Get yee forth to thy favorite coffee, forthwith!

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:17 AM

8. Sarcasm impaired my ass.

 

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:34 AM

13. Cogitation impaired, maybe...

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Response to Remmah2 (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:44 AM

15. Dont' be ridiculous.

"Upon closer inspection, the officers noticed that the guns were carved with the man's initials. He had no permits."

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Response to Remmah2 (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:11 PM

18. Oh no, not marijuana!

 

He could have assaulted a bag of chips!

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Response to Remmah2 (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:21 PM

19. You think Tbaggers will rush to defense- He was just exercising his God given, 2nd Amendment rights.

Hey I've heard what the gun toter said right here: "What guns?" Then he claimed to have "just bought them," and then said "he uses them at a shooting range."

And, there are many here who have condemned the police for stopping someone strutting down the street with a gun or two.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #19)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:25 PM

20. If he had not had drugs, and OC of a rifle was legal it would have been fine.

That is of course if he had a clean history allowing him to own firearms.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #19)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:08 PM

21. Go find someone who argues for the right to use guns while clearly intoxicated

 

on drugs/alcohol.

Go on now. Collect some data to back your claims. Your strawmen are awfully exposed without any sort of supporting evidence.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #19)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:27 PM

22. Shouldn't that be "*I* think Tbaggers will rush to defense?"

Someone with your claimed abilities is wasting your time here. James Randi has a million dollars waiting for you.

Why, you could even set an example and donate it to the Brady Camapaign-it would raise their budget to almost 1% of the NRAs...

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #22)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:53 PM

24. Kind words for your buddies at NRA -- Norquist, Bolton, Nugent, Barr, gun manufacturers, and

worse.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #24)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:45 AM

25. My "buddies" at the NRA? No James Randi money for you- I think of them almost as poorly as you do.

And have said so more than once:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/117222584

http://www.democraticunderground.com/117250142#post163

So what is it, Hoyt? Poor research skills or deliberate falsehood on your part?

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #25)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 12:56 PM

28. I prefer this.

 

So what is it, Hoyt? Poor research skills AND deliberate falsehood on your part?

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #19)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:49 PM

23. It appears this guy was

carrying the guns illegally and had illegal drugs on him. Why would supporters of the 2nd Amendment have anything good to say about this guy?

I highly doubt he had an AK-47 assault rifle. Even the cops can't seem to get the details correct when it comes to guns.

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