Gun ruling may become a model for the nation

If you are living in public housing you lose some Constitution rights?

It's most right wing member, there is no Constitutional right to carry any gun any where, only to own a handgun, in your own home. See the majority opinion by Scalia in McDonald vs Chicago. Every Constittuional right we have has some restriction. Perhaps you can come up with any other right that has no restriction?

Seriously though, I think you're on the wrong side of this one. A private apartment building - fine, they can set their own rules. A government housing authority should not be able to tell residents what they can't do in their homes, because they have no other option. And it absolutely is meant to limit their rights, despite the official's statement to the contrary, because no one can provide any factual evidence that open carry presents a threat to safety.

To change this they would also have to allow open carry in schools, courts and for jail visits.

If this ruling allowed the authority to ban open carry in lounges and courtyards, it would be different. The article describes common areas as to include halls, so I can only assume it includes any publicly accessible part of the property. In that case, a resident can't move to or from his or her home without violating the ban.

I don't think they would have to change policy regarding any other place. Public housing deals with the homes of people who can't easily choose to live anywhere else. Special consideration has to be given to protect their rights.

I am ok with that. Conceal it and everyone is better off - including the person carrying.

Many states have brandishing laws - IMO this is no different.

Disgusting.

But if you want to make conceptual leaps here's one - you don't walk around with you dick hanging out, please conceal your gun too.

Poll tax. No leap at all, it's exactly the same thing.

Walking around with a holstered firearm in plain view is NOT brandishing.

Think about it, all the uniformed police would be "brandishing" all the time. Unless they get special rules, but no animals are ever more equal than other animals, right?

the grabbers know no limits...

First this threat to life and family, next a total ban.


What a sad day for the 99% across America.

Have another glass of kewlade.



Gun ruling may become a model for the nation

To crazy gun nuts. Next they'll want to remove restrictions on mass murders open carrying and making it legal for anyone to carry chemical weapons for self defense. Then they'll want no restrictions on third graders carrying guns to school. It is a slippery slope to give in on any restrictions to them.

I legally carry pepper spray in Florida and I bought my spray from Amazon.com.

as they would necessarily be felons.

Unless you're talking about stripping them of their rights pre-emptively on the assumption that one day they may misuse those rights.

If so I must ask, why stop with the 2nd? We could do far more good to prevent pre-crime by doing away with the 4th and 5th amendments and of course that pernicious first amendment.

because all they want is an outright gun ban. However, they are too cowardly to come out and say it. So they take the salami approach. One slice at a time.

First, they'll try and take semi-auto rifles.
Then, handguns.
Then pump shotguns.
Finally your hunting rifle, sorry I meant high powered sniper rifle.

but they know first they have to jump our rights thru a bunch of hoops before they can justify their final destination for the 2A.

They don't really expect criminals to obey laws but understand they can bully legal owners, businesses, manufactures and 2A groups with ever increasing laws.

More hilarity from the "I'm too scared to walk out of my house without a gun!" crowd.

Would a person with a legal concealed weapons permit be allowed to carry his weapon on the common grounds of the Wilmington Housing Authority buildings?

I understand that Delaware does allow concealed carry in the state although it is a "May Issue" state not a "Shall Issue " state. Open carry is "Unrestricted; however, local ordinances prohibiting open carry may exist."
sources:
http://www.concealandcarryhq.com/index.php/delaware-concealed-carry-laws/
http://www.usacarry.com/delaware_concealed_carry_permit_information.html#delaware_concealed_carry_map)

It is unfortunately true that gun control efforts in our nation have a long history of discrimination against the poorer members of our society and minority groups. That's why I oppose "May Issue" as "Shall Issue" is color blind.

(In all fairness my question is probably irrelevant as the reality is that in a state with a "May Issue" concealed carry law would never obtain permission from the authorities to be able to legally carry a concealed handgun for self defense as that privilege would be reserved for the "better members" of society;, the rich, the famous and the politically connected few.)

Oddly enough I can carry a legally concealed weapon in Delaware as I posses a Florida Concealed weapons permit and am a resident of Florida. (No, I am not a vigilante or a fool like Zimmerman. I don't go looking for trouble.)
(source: http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/news/concealed_carry.html)

I find it strange that as one of the 800,000 residents of Florida I have more gun rights in Delaware than the citizens of that state. (Of course it could be argued that open carry in Delaware is possible but restricted while it Florida it is forbidden in public.)

the criminals will still carry.

Fortunately law abiding citizens will be disarmed and helpless which is good because . . . something something.

That's messed up.

the legal action. Before this court ruling the housing authority banned the residents of these buildings from having guns in their apartments. The lawsuit was about getting that right restored.

"...their lawyer, Francis X. Pileggi, said the federal suit originally was filed to overturn a blanket ban on gun ownership in this city's public housing, "and that was changed after we filed a lawsuit."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=118&topic_id=366156#367478

At least they are not going door to door... Yet.

...private housing but it is for these people in public housing. What is it about these people that they can't be trusted with the same liberty?

Is it because they are poor? Is it because they are people of color (at least one of the complainants was black)? I wonder what classist, racist patrician attitudes make this ok for some people.

to open-carry in common areas, I would assume. And a public housing complex isn't really 'public space' in the way a street or a park would be. So I'm not really convinced this decision is wrong: even though the property owner is a state agency, it seems reasonable to let it behave like a private owner in some respects...