Myths and Facts About Gun Violence in America

Even those who don't belong support NRA, and applaud their sleazy lobbying efforts.

Remember. your intransigence is what will bring gun restrictions to your door.

You can either work with people or against them.

The NRA loses a peace of it's power every time their is mass killings like what happened twice in Colorado.


A few less right wing Justices and we have a new interpretation of 2A.

Now for more snark from the gun lobby.

Its very rare for a USSC to over turn a ruling once stari decise (sp)? has been settled.

spell check failed me

Believe me, the only reason my docs aren't all read squigglies is because I spent law school adding all the stupid legal words to my spellcheck dictionary.

Every time some authoritarian politician starts talking about gun bans gun sales got through the roof and the NRA gets more members

Hopefully, any progressive justices we get will respect the original intent of the amendment, and not the sham the gun control lobby would have us believe.

You want compromise? Fine. What are YOU prepared to give up?


You also forget that the NRA has only four million members- but their are eighty million gun owners in the US, and they vote at quite a high rate.

To think the NRA and the Republicans exclusively drive gun politics is a strategic error gun prohibitionists (and you ARE prohibitionists, despite the honeyed words you offer when
you think we've forgotten your history) seem intent on committing over and over again...

Sooo... Our refusal to willingly submit to more control is what will instigate that control. Is that it?

If that's true (and I don't believe it is) then we're fucked either way so you'll understand if I decline to willingly stick my head in that proverbial noose.


"I mean to misbehave."
~ Malcolm Reynolds

if someone posts a story from a right leaning paper you attack the source, so I guess whats good for the goose....

http://www.gallup.com/poll/123596/in-u.s.-record-low-support-stricter-gun-laws.aspx

Also election results tend to bear this out as well...

And he would know, he watched from the inside, as several election cycles "go away" because of gun control.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/24/for-obama-romney-and-america-gun-control-is-dead.html

You mean the ones tailored by the Brady Campaign or MAIG? Credibility: you still don't have it.

complete with echo chamber, funding "research" and funding "constitutional scholarship" The use the same model as the right wing billionaires who fund the think tanks, buy bulk books to put scribblings by the likes of Ann Coulter on the best seller lists, and fund climate science denial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Foundation#Organizations_funded_by_the_Joyce_Foundation

I am not saying they are the same ideologically or any such thing. They just use the same propaganda model, just not as sophisticated or as well funded as the Kochs.

With the millions of $ they keep spending on failed gun control organizations and research, they should be experts on myths.

Hey, it's election season, shouldn't they be launching the new American Hunters & Sportsman's Association for this year?

From your link:


The NRA does not oppose background checks. In fact the NRA helped design the NICS system and the legislation. Intrastate private sales are not in the perview of the federal government and is a state issue. Private sellers can't use the NICS system due to privacy issues.



The 1994 AWB did not ban assault weapons. It merely banned some minor cosmetic features on some guns. That the Batman killer had 6,000 rounds of ammo is irrelevant. He fired only about 100. The other 5,900 did nothing.


In the past ten year about 100 million new guns have been sold, yet the murder rate continues to drop.


That depends upon which laws are being discussed. Some laws work, some don't.


Other Duers have previously posted other studies that show gun ownership to be rising.


The Joyce Foundation is trying to dodge the question. The "myth" is not about the effect of CCW on crime, but on whether or not an armed citien might have been able to stop the carnage. There have been several mass shootings that have been stopped by armed citizens, and there have been crimes that have been stopped by armed citizens. There is a current thread about an old guy that helped the police in a shoot-out with a murderer. The old geezer (I can use that word. I am a geezer myself.) hit the bad guy five shots out of five at 165 yards with a handgun.

This is the evidence for gun control???
It is like saying they discovered water is wet. I am curious, did they locate any instances of gun murders and gun suicides that did not involve a gun?

I can do a study that shows the link between alcohol availability and alcohol abuse. I will conclude more alcohol leads to more alcohol related crime and death.
So lets bring back prohibition...