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Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:53 AM

No Burglars Shot And Killed In Chicago, Several Shot And Killed This Year In Houston

Houston has about 2.1+ million people, Chicago has about 2.7+ million. From time to time I do Google news searches for "burglar shot", "robber shot", or "attacker shot" looking for self-defense cases with something unusual about them. Most of the time I don't post the news because there isn't anything special about it that really merits discussion. In the months that I have been doing those Google searches I have noticed that certain cities tend to come up more often than ther cities.

I have never seen a justifiable homicide cases from Chicago, indicating that robbery and burglary are fairly safe occupations there.

Houston, and other parts of Texas also, frequently have a story on a burglar or robber legally killed by an armed citizen. Therefore it appears that being a burglar or armed robber in Texas, (And in other states with similar laws.) is a highly hazardous profession.

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Reply No Burglars Shot And Killed In Chicago, Several Shot And Killed This Year In Houston (Original post)
GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 OP
ileus Aug 2012 #1
Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #2
HALO141 Aug 2012 #4
OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #3
rfranklin Aug 2012 #9
rfranklin Aug 2012 #5
Fresh_Start Aug 2012 #7
HALO141 Aug 2012 #8
gejohnston Aug 2012 #12
rfranklin Aug 2012 #13
Lizzie Poppet Aug 2012 #15
safeinOhio Aug 2012 #6
Clames Aug 2012 #10
gejohnston Aug 2012 #11
rfranklin Aug 2012 #14
gejohnston Aug 2012 #17
Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #16

Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:59 AM

1. baser toter bloodluster hateful rude 2Aers every celebrate.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:59 AM

2. Perhaps media outlets in Chicago prefer not to cover those stories? n/t

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Response to Glaug-Eldare (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 12:04 PM

4. "If it bleeds it leads."

News outlets operate the same everywhere.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 12:01 PM

3. Anecdotal evidence indicates that if you plan to pillage/plunder... move to Chicago.

 

I seem to remember reading a pair of justifiable homicide stories in the chicago area in the past year. Not sure what the scumbags were doing (robbery, rape, assault...) but I do remember the stories.

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Response to OneTenthofOnePercent (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 12:41 PM

9. Anecdotal and totally bogus...check out the burglary figures for both cities...

 

Houston is just a lawless place.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 12:18 PM

5. Doesn't seem to do anything to lessen crime in Houston...

 

judging by the number of stories you are able to dredge up.

Houston has 1295 burglaries per 100,000 population while Chicago has 845. Your theory that gunning down burglars makes you safer from crime is not sound.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 12:28 PM

7. Apparently all those guns leads to a higher burglary rate

heck if they can infer gold from crap so can the non-"life without my guns isn't real living" crowd

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 12:39 PM

8. Correlation does not imply causation.

The only way to test your hypothesis would be to examine 2 parallel universes - The one we live in and one in which Houston had the same gun laws as Chicago. Since that's not possible any conclusion we draw is pure supposition. However...

I'll make the following two assumptions with a very high degree of confidence:
1) The number of available burglars over the course of a year is not infinite.
2) There is no universal law, physical or metaphysical, that requires any given number of burglaries be committed.

Given the above, I feel equally confident in the following hypothesis; If there had been 27195 burglars shot (((2100000)/100000)*1295) then there would have been a statistically significant decrease in burglaries in Houston. The conclusion, then, is that not enough burglars are getting shot.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:10 PM

12. try home invasions

which is different than burglary. It is safer to do a home invasion in Chicago, but burglary is just as safe in either place. Of course, if your casing skills suck, all bets are off.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:57 PM

13. Can you back up your claim? There don't seem to be realiable statistics related to that term.

 

The term "home invasion" is somewhat fluid and can include burglaries without assault.

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #13)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 02:14 PM

15. That's a big problem with home invasion stats.

Home invasions aren't recorded as such by law enforcement, and different agencies assign them to different categories.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 12:20 PM

6. Try these google searches.

"Houston gun accident" and "Chicago gun accident". Looks like those even it out.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 12:43 PM

10. Try staying on topic.

 

N/t

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:07 PM

11. not quite the same thing

try "Kwajalein car crash" and "Guam car crash" Kwajalein doesn't have any cars.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:58 PM

14. Chicago has plenty of guns...your example is not applicable.

 

Is it?

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Response to rfranklin (Reply #14)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:04 PM

17. not legally. Legal ones are few. That being the case

accidents are not going to be reported to the police.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 02:34 PM

16. Congratulations! You must feel wonderful

now I have to go

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