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Sun May 27, 2012, 12:01 PM

The Gungeon


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Official Name of This Group
2 (7%)
Term of Endearment
4 (14%)
Mild Insult
4 (14%)
takes too long to type GC&RKBA
0 (0%)
makes it hard for new members to find their way around
0 (0%)
all of the above
17 (59%)
none of the above
0 (0%)
some combination of above
2 (7%)
out of left field OTHER
0 (0%)
women liked to be called cowboys
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Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 OP
ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #1
krispos42 May 2012 #7
ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #9
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #11
ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #30
gejohnston May 2012 #31
ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #32
gejohnston May 2012 #33
Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #34
Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #72
PavePusher May 2012 #14
era veteran May 2012 #27
rl6214 May 2012 #54
gejohnston May 2012 #55
rl6214 May 2012 #59
Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #77
DWC May 2012 #63
pipoman May 2012 #64
Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #71
fern Oct 2012 #70
Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #78
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #10
brewens May 2012 #2
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #12
Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #3
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #13
Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #18
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #21
Upton May 2012 #4
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #23
NewMoonTherian May 2012 #5
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #16
NewMoonTherian May 2012 #22
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #25
NewMoonTherian May 2012 #29
Kaleva May 2012 #35
-..__... May 2012 #6
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #17
krispos42 May 2012 #8
Kaleva May 2012 #15
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #20
Kaleva May 2012 #24
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #26
Kaleva May 2012 #36
sarisataka May 2012 #37
Kaleva May 2012 #38
sarisataka May 2012 #39
krispos42 May 2012 #56
SGMRTDARMY May 2012 #66
Kaleva May 2012 #67
Callisto32 May 2012 #40
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #19
krispos42 May 2012 #57
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #61
krispos42 May 2012 #62
rrneck May 2012 #28
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #45
rrneck May 2012 #46
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #47
Kaleva May 2012 #58
DanTex May 2012 #41
holdencaufield Oct 2012 #75
discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #42
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #44
discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #48
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #49
discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #50
Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #73
Kaleva May 2012 #43
Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #74
Logical May 2012 #51
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #52
rl6214 May 2012 #53
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #60
pipoman May 2012 #65
Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #68
Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #76
Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #69

Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2012, 12:05 PM

1. Mild insult

What if some of the other groups were called Gayeon or Femigeon?

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #1)

Sun May 27, 2012, 03:39 PM

7. People who hate the idea of a LGBT Group or Forum get tombstoned.

People who hate the idea of a Guns Group get a big fat "meh".





This group is one of the few on DU where a member can express opinions in favor of either side... and some people hate that.

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #7)

Sun May 27, 2012, 04:04 PM

9. She who should not be named got away with things here for years

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It was not until she pulled the same crap in Feminism and LGBT groups that she was cashiered. I did not make her list on her vanity site...almost feel slighted.`

On edit, I did get mentioned on her vanity site...http://feministshosts.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?pid=112#p112

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #9)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:25 PM

11. another most excellent point

I thought I saw a post about you over there PP ....

http://feministshosts.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?pid=112#p112
post #16


Sometimes it's hard to know which list somebody goes on.

ProgressiveProfessor
(don't they pick such cute names for themselves?? I think this one is a professor of computer repair, from what I've gathered, and the "progressive" may refer to its taste in music, but certainly not to anything else)

Gun troll, or stupid person?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?c ;pid=99826

Two mints in one!

Don't let the fact that the bulk of this one's recent posts haven't been in Guns fool you:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101728424
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1038377#post1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101718909#post11


Anyhow, where the fuck this "paralegal" noise came from has always had me baffled; I assume our "professor" here has got it from the dank, dark right-wing gun-militant corners of the internet where it circulates, and where DU's gun assholes spend their lives. A person with an undergraduate arts degree and a professional degree in law, who has been called to the bar and admitted to practice as a solicitor, doesn't generally decide to go be a paralegal. Paralegals do conveyancing and maybe the odd bit of research. That's not what I have ever said I do.

It's so simple. I was a lawyer; I practised law. I am no longer a lawyer; I no longer practise law. I work on contract, partly for the government, doing something else, and what I do involves reading reams and reams of law, public policy analysis, public and interest group opinion about public policy, and stuff like that, day in and day out, and often late into the night.

That's all I've ever said, and it's what I've always said.

Believe it or not; I couldn't care less. But don't make shit up, 'k? It just makes you look like ... a liar.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #11)

Sun May 27, 2012, 10:07 PM

30. She was cagey and at times inconsistent with what she posted

Over time she said she was in the legal biz and elsewhere claimed not to be a lawyer. Same thing about her politics, finances, etc.

She goaded many but also had her own hot buttons. I forgot a capitalization and it got past the spell checker once and you would have thought I had assassinated POTUS from the ruckus she raised.

It is interesting to see that she has access to Meta, which is supposed to be closed to non-members. Also other DU members appear to be posting at her vanity site as well.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #30)

Sun May 27, 2012, 10:31 PM

31. now I know where I can

continue my "how to cuss worse than a sailor" (BTW, why do sailors get such a bad rap for drinking, cussing, and blowing money away on bullshit? But I digress)
What did she have against lesbians and trans-gendered?

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #31)

Sun May 27, 2012, 11:19 PM

32. Dunno

Hard to tell what reality she thought she was in some times.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #31)

Mon May 28, 2012, 12:04 AM

34. "BTW, why do sailors get such a bad rap for drinking, cussing, and blowing money away on bullshit?"

Because we do. A lot.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #31)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:47 AM

72. Within some circles of the lesbian community, there

Is supposed to be opposition to inclusion of transgendered folks. That wouldn't explain hostility to both, however.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #9)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:30 PM

14. Holy SHIT......!

 

Last edited Sun May 27, 2012, 06:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Talk about your Shrieking Rage-, Self-loathing Intolerance- and Self-righteous Indignant Poutrage-in-an-Echo Chamber Syndrome.

I need a long, hot shower after briefly skimming there.

Ick.

Edit: Heh, apparently I hold a special place in her heart, bless her...

Double-ick.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #9)

Sun May 27, 2012, 06:06 PM

27. Wow, there is some rage there.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #9)

Wed May 30, 2012, 01:35 AM

54. Should I feel honored (or should it be honoured) that I made her site?

 

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Response to rl6214 (Reply #54)

Wed May 30, 2012, 01:42 AM

55. Not sure if I should be honored or what

BTW, what was her point? Isn't a diary cheaper?

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #55)

Wed May 30, 2012, 12:29 PM

59. But then she wouldn't have an audience if she just wrote in a diary

 

This way she gets to look at the number of views and tell herself she is important.

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Response to rl6214 (Reply #59)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:20 PM

77. It doesn't matter to her that 98.7% of her "readers" are there just to mock her?

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #9)

Wed May 30, 2012, 08:55 PM

63. I have been away for a few weeks

 

and on my return this is the first thread I opened.

This news concerning a change in our membership is like Christmas in May.

Semper Fi,

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #9)

Wed May 30, 2012, 08:56 PM

64. After having been absent from the gungeon

I was not aware of her demise..

I will miss her, I have a bit of an abrasive streak..not even close to hers..and could appreciate her view point and especially her arguing skills..RIP

Edit, I guess it's too late for "RIP"

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:40 AM

71. Hit that bull's eye 3X @ 100 yds.

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:30 AM

70. yes

 

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Response to fern (Reply #70)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:46 PM

78. where did you find this old gem?

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #1)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:23 PM

10. excellent point.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2012, 12:06 PM

2. Mild insult, but I don't care who ya are, at there's funny! LOL n/t

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Response to brewens (Reply #2)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:28 PM

12. ha! Do I amuse you ;-)

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2012, 12:16 PM

3. I don't really use the term, but I like it

even if it might be considered insulting. Can't take the pee, get out the pee-ery.

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Response to Glaug-Eldare (Reply #3)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:29 PM

13. Why should 2A be the toilet of DU3?



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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #13)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:34 PM

18. Can't take the hogwash, get out the hogwashery

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Response to Glaug-Eldare (Reply #18)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:48 PM

21. I am just tired of people dishing it out and then Alerting when they get it back

why should some get hidden posts and the instigator walk away scot free and then go brag all over DU about how they have a clean slate and then if they check TOS the Admin look at that.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2012, 12:22 PM

4. Yeah, it a mild insult..

but really..who cares? I'm not into this word police garbage. I've even use the term myself..

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Response to Upton (Reply #4)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:49 PM

23. so then -- you vote to change the name officially to The Gungeon...

right

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2012, 12:22 PM

5. Depends on who's saying it.

Only Gungeon regulars are allowed to call it the Gungeon. That's our word.

Seriously, though, it might be an insult, but it doesn't bother me. I use it. Maybe it's a little bit of mildly self-deprecating humor? I always read it as more a commentary on the decorum than the subject matter.

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Response to NewMoonTherian (Reply #5)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:33 PM

16. the decorum --- BINGO!

we were abused for so long in here.


I am all for humor but the instigating and agitating and irritating ....

Well, now that the head of the snake is gone . . .

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #16)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:49 PM

22. Who, Iverglas?

I didn't mind her. She came up with some fairly intriguing arguments sometimes, just couched in obnoxious language. Hoyt and BongBong are more inflammatory than I ever saw her being. Then again, I'm comparatively pretty new here.

I think our more brash denizens reflect well on us, to be honest. Our skin is thick enough that we can mix it up with them and debate on the merits of our ideas, without being too sensitive about the name-calling.

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Response to NewMoonTherian (Reply #22)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:51 PM

25. Naming Names --- good! calling it like you see it. Good! I agree -- there are worse here now

than Iver was and at least Iver had nuggets of wisdom sometimes in between all the vile BS.

can't say as much for these other two you named.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #25)

Sun May 27, 2012, 09:52 PM

29. If we're being real...

I wouldn't come here nearly as much if it weren't for them. Other gun forums are so vastly pro-gun, there's no provocative discussion taking place. At least we can count on a difference of opinion here.

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Response to NewMoonTherian (Reply #29)

Mon May 28, 2012, 12:12 AM

35. A good back and forth makes this place interesting.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2012, 12:26 PM

6. Insulting to whom?

 

"Gun nuts"/gun militants/2nd amendment advocates?

"Gun grabbers"/hoplophobes/restrictionists?

Since both sides post/have their say in this forum, the label/stigma/insult (assuming one feels that way about it), applies to all.

As one on the side of firearms ownership, I don't feel singled by the slight.


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Response to -..__... (Reply #6)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:34 PM

17. what about New Members trying to find their way to this group?

How easy is it to find something that is not listed?

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2012, 03:42 PM

8. I'd like to hear members express alternatives to the official group name.

If we can find a catchy one, we can petition for a name change.

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #8)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:33 PM

15. How about call it what most everybody already does?

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #15)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:37 PM

20. don't you think most voters in this poll agree that is a Mild Insult? are you sure you want to

be known by a Mild Insult?

just asking.....

as for me, I just want something official that we can all agree and that New Members will not have a problem finding.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #20)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:50 PM

24. An insult is only effective if it actually does insult the intended target.

While some here in DU may intend it to be a mild insult, the actual effect is another matter.

I use it because it's easier to type then the official name and pretty much everyone knows what the "gungeon" is.

Edit: And I think that regardless of what other name is chosen or if the actual official name is kept, this will still be called the "gungeon" by most.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #24)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:53 PM

26. sorry, New Members do NOT know where is The Gungeon. No such thing exists. Otherwise, I agree with

your post.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #26)

Mon May 28, 2012, 12:24 AM

36. True, newbies might be confused at first.

A little story.

When I was in the navy, I was at a base (can't remember which one now as it's been awhile) where sailors would cut across open areas to get where they needed to go. The paths were well worn. Then the base put in sidewalks in that area but the sailors kept using the dirt paths. Soon there were signs warning to keep off the grass and stay on the sidewalks but these were ignored.

The base should have put the sidewalks where the paths were instead of essentially wasting money and trying to fight a losing battle.

Keeping the name of Gun Control & RKBA or changing it to a another will not keep most everyone here at DU from calling this group "The Gungeon".

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #36)

Mon May 28, 2012, 01:00 AM

37. Did you have those sailors

Going around trying to locate a bucket of cavitation?

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #37)

Mon May 28, 2012, 01:25 AM

38. We sent them to get relative bearing grease, 20' of chowline and bulkhead remover.

Or have them stand mail buoy watch.

On my first ship, an ET was sent down in the holes to ask for a BT punch. The snipes who worked down there were BTs (Boiler Technicians). The clueless ET asks the first BT he sees for a BT punch and of course, he gets punched. Mad, the ET yells at the BT and demands a BT punch. The poor ET got the shit beat out of him by all the BTs there.


In boot camp I got assigned earthquake watch once because I had pissed of the Recruit Company Commander for some forgotten reason. I had to stand facing the bulkhead with my nose touching the wall. If an earthquake happened and the wall started to shake, I was to do an about face and yell "Earthquake! Earthquake!". There aren't very many earthquakes in Orlando, Florida.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #38)

Mon May 28, 2012, 03:13 AM

39. Go Navy



Semper Fi my Sea Brother

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #38)

Wed May 30, 2012, 10:47 AM

56. *snort*



"relative bearing grease"

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #38)

Wed May 30, 2012, 10:08 PM

66. I love it

 

my brother went through boot in San Diego and then went on to become a Seabee. Some of the stories he told me about the pranks pulled on him had me rolling on the ground laughing.

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Response to SGMRTDARMY (Reply #66)

Thu May 31, 2012, 12:25 AM

67. If you could remember some of those stories....

and of you got some of your own, I love to hear them!

Have a thread in the Lounge where vets tell such stories.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018123464

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #36)

Mon May 28, 2012, 06:28 AM

40. Have to disagree, here.

The base should have let people continue what they were doing and saved the $12K/Paving brick, or whatever ridiculous government price they paid to install the sidewalk that apparently was so not needed that people ignored it.

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #8)

Sun May 27, 2012, 05:35 PM

19. got any ideas?

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #19)

Wed May 30, 2012, 10:55 AM

57. Nothing short and sweet.

"Gungeon" is two syllables. Anything that's descriptive turns into a hideously long multi-syllabic thing that people won't say, much less type or even abbreviate.

"Gun Group" probably isn't specific enough, as it would imply sport and recreational shooting topics as well as gun politics and self-defense. Although most people that don't call it the Gungeon just call it the "Guns Group" or "Guns Forum".

If we go with anything, we should just call it "Guns Group" and leave it at that.

I don't want to go with some stupid name like "Armed Citizen Group" or "2nd Amendment Group".

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #57)

Wed May 30, 2012, 06:09 PM

61. Lately, I have heard The Cesspool bandied about where so-called pro gun progressives

trash progressives.

yeah. right.








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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #61)

Wed May 30, 2012, 06:15 PM

62. You mean where anti-gun progressive trash other progressives?

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2012, 08:44 PM

28. It's a mild insult.

But mild enough to be embraced by the gunnies. As in, "C'mon down to the gungeon and bring a silver platter for your ass when we hand it back to you". This is a scary place for the unicorn and rainbow anti gun bunch.

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Response to rrneck (Reply #28)

Tue May 29, 2012, 06:45 PM

45. then, by all means. let us make it official. The Gungeon. works for me. any opposed?

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #45)

Tue May 29, 2012, 06:49 PM

46. Well, the term is slang

and I'm not aware of any other forum or group titled with slang. But I don't know if that's an issue. If everybody else wants to I'm good with it. Hell, may be we'll start a trend.

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Response to rrneck (Reply #46)

Tue May 29, 2012, 06:52 PM

47. Trendsetters R us!

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #47)

Wed May 30, 2012, 11:19 AM

58. We-R-Guns!

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Mon May 28, 2012, 07:20 AM

41. It's an amusing and fitting nickname.

It's a place to discuss gun issues, and also it's infested with trolls and right-wing propaganda like you don't see in other areas of DU. "gun" + "dungeon" = "gungeon".

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Response to DanTex (Reply #41)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:43 PM

75. You're half right

 

"... it's infested with trolls" -- just not the right-wing kind

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Mon May 28, 2012, 09:56 AM

42. re: takes too long to type GC&RKBA

Just pointing out that "GC&RKBA" and "Gungeon" both have 7 characters.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #42)

Tue May 29, 2012, 06:43 PM

44. but, which one can you type faster?

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #44)

Tue May 29, 2012, 06:59 PM

48. my choice would be...

...gc/rkba. No shift key involvement.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #48)

Tue May 29, 2012, 07:04 PM

49. heh

2a is even faster and my personal fave but, I know it will never stand a chance

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #49)

Tue May 29, 2012, 07:09 PM

50. fine by me

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #49)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:36 PM

73. 2A as well. Some folks might stumble in, wondering what means.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Mon May 28, 2012, 11:21 AM

43. Going off topic but am wondering if the SOP could be changed...

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so that the discussion of guns could be allowed here? As it is right now, one must post such topics in the Outdoor Life group which gets very little traffic.

While i don't post here that much, I do drop in often to read and I'd find discussions about guns to be very interesting. There's many here who must have a wealth of experience.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #43)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:40 PM

74. Agree. Maybe a code differentiating threads could be used.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Tue May 29, 2012, 08:08 PM

51. I dont care what anyone calls it. Does not impact how I feel. n-t

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Response to Logical (Reply #51)

Tue May 29, 2012, 09:54 PM

52. I understand however when it is discussed in official capacity it is confusing to new members.

People are being directed to The Gungeon and no such place exists.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2012, 01:28 AM

53. Of course it's meant to be an insult

 

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Response to rl6214 (Reply #53)

Wed May 30, 2012, 04:09 PM

60. yes, I believe it started out that way but, it seems we 2Aers have the knack of

embracing taunts and actually laughing about them and then carrying on with laying out facts and statistics. Perhaps other groups on DU are not as adept at this.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2012, 09:14 PM

65. Reminds me of the "Jayhawker"

of my state. Jayhawk was a name attached to pro-Union fighters prior to/during the Civil War as an insult by the Missouri Confederate sympathizers. Of coarse the Jayhawk is a symbol of Kansans (and KU) to this day.

Gungeon was started and repeated by pro-control DUers who wanted the Gungeon to go away and pro-2nd Democrats to be stifled and banned if they dare take the pro-2nd position...now it is a term of endearment.

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Response to pipoman (Reply #65)

Thu May 31, 2012, 06:45 PM

68. to the point that we want to make it the ofiicial Name of the Group?



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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #68)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:44 PM

76. I would go with Gungeon in the interest of hominy.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Original post)

Sat Jun 2, 2012, 01:50 PM

69. so far, Five People have shown that they have an obvious issue with facts

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else they need to explain what is the definition of Official . . .

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