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Ian David

(69,059 posts)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:16 AM Apr 2012

Florida man mistakes girlfriend for hog, shoots her

A Florida couple was on a weekend camping trip that ended in an airlift to the emergency room.

Steven Egan, 52, was hunting with his girlfriend, Lisa Simmons, in the northern part of the state when he mistook her for a hog and shot her.

"He saw a hog and thought he shot it and went to look for it," Maj. Steve Clair of the Flagler County Sheriff's Office told ABC News. "He heard her and thought it was a hog and just shot."

The mistake was not actually related to her appearance. Rather, Egan had earlier shot at a hog that continued to evade him. He reportedly instructed Simmons to stay at their campsite while he pursued the evasive animal, according to the Flagler County Sheriff's Office However, Simmons ventured away from the campsite, apparently searching for oranges that had fallen from nearby trees.


A Florida man mistook his girlfriend for a hog, shooting her (AP/Mike Groll)

More:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/florida-man-mistakes-girlfriend-hog-shoots-her-211904311.html

Florida never disappoints.

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Florida man mistakes girlfriend for hog, shoots her (Original Post) Ian David Apr 2012 OP
I wonder if she's going to break up with him? Bluzmann57 Apr 2012 #1
once he explains the mistake Enrique Apr 2012 #2
Sarcasm thingy missing??? You think? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #15
OMG! I am running that through my mind and asjr Apr 2012 #3
ROFL discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #14
Oink for me girl... ileus Apr 2012 #4
SYG TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #5
Yeah right,,,, benld74 Apr 2012 #6
Shooting at sounds instead of ... ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #7
That's why I don't hunt on public land. Dr_Scholl Apr 2012 #19
I don't think that even Dr. Phil could salvage this relationship. Kaleva Apr 2012 #8
and yet right up until the moment when he shot somebody ... iverglas Apr 2012 #26
There probably wasn't. Kaleva Apr 2012 #30
the funny thing is it isn't all about "you" iverglas Apr 2012 #31
Well gee... Clames Apr 2012 #32
I had to take a hunters safety course before I could get a hunting license. Kaleva Apr 2012 #33
So...people go hunting with their girlfriends? Lawlbringer Apr 2012 #9
I take it that you don't know any couples like that? ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #10
I've heard that some couples even play golf, camp and fish together too DonP Apr 2012 #11
No, I'm just unfamiliar with hunters. Lawlbringer Apr 2012 #12
Up here (Illinois) it's mostly upland birds, Pheasant etc., some go for ducks and geese too DonP Apr 2012 #13
Happens frequently around here. jeepnstein Apr 2012 #16
I sure hope he never intended on proposing to her rl6214 Apr 2012 #17
He's in deep shit guitar man Apr 2012 #18
What apology would work here? era veteran Apr 2012 #20
I have visions of "Deliverance" in my head now. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #21
I'm rather happy... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #24
But it's a classic! cleanhippie Apr 2012 #27
I'll consider it. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #29
This thread is useless without pictures. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #22
From the "Comments" section: sylvi Apr 2012 #23
I suppose... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #25
LOL! That's awful. n/t Ian David Apr 2012 #28

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
7. Shooting at sounds instead of ...
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 10:43 AM
Apr 2012

... identifying your target. It is amazing how many idiots do this in the name of hunting.

Kaleva

(36,258 posts)
8. I don't think that even Dr. Phil could salvage this relationship.
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 10:51 AM
Apr 2012

Seriously though, this guy has proven he should not have guns in his possession. He certainly should be prohibited from hunting in Florida for many years. He's clearly a menace.

 

iverglas

(38,549 posts)
26. and yet right up until the moment when he shot somebody ...
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 05:21 PM
Apr 2012

there was just no reason to keep him away from guns!

Funny how that works, eh?

Kaleva

(36,258 posts)
30. There probably wasn't.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:13 PM
Apr 2012

I served in the Navy of years and was trained on the .45 pistol, the M-14 rifle, the M-60 machine gun, the .50 caliber machine gun, the 20mm Vulcan cannon and the 25mm Bushmaster cannon. But if I went out hunting and accidentally shot someone because I didn't visually verify my target and fired in the direction of a sound, I feel I'd have no reason to bitch if my guns were then taken away and i was prohibited from hunting for many years.
Despite the training and experience, my actions would be proof that I was a menace to others when armed.

 

iverglas

(38,549 posts)
31. the funny thing is it isn't all about "you"
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:23 PM
Apr 2012
But if I went out hunting and accidentally shot someone because I didn't visually verify my target and fired in the direction of a sound, I feel I'd have no reason to bitch if my guns were then taken away and i was prohibited from hunting for many years.

There actually is an injured or dead person in these scenarios.

I know my neighbours to the south are very fond of the punishment side of crime & punishment, but punishment just never never, really really, does anything about the harm that has been done.

Where a harm is avoidable, or where there are known good ways to reduce the risk of a harm occurring and the incidence of it occurring, that's where sensible people, or at least people who notice the victims in these scenarios and have a genuine interest in all those "others" who are potential victims of similar events, tend to focus their thinking and efforts.

Reducing the risk of a fool shooting another person in a situation like this is a pretty tough nut to crack, I'd never say otherwise.

Where I'm at, both firearms licences (mandatory) and hunting licences (mandatory) require completion of training courses (there's overlap of some sort; I haven't looked up the details recently, but it boils down to: mandatory training and mandatory testing before licence issued).

That seems like one way a start might be made on reducing these particular risks.

Of course, you can't make somebody take training before using a firearm if there is no oversight at all of who has acces to firearms ...
 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
32. Well gee...
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 09:18 PM
Apr 2012
Where I'm at,



...maybe you'll explain why your location has fuck all to do with this incident? This isn't all about you (or anything to do with Canada) either.

Kaleva

(36,258 posts)
33. I had to take a hunters safety course before I could get a hunting license.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 11:50 PM
Apr 2012

In Florida, anyone born after May 31, 1975 also has to take such a course before they can get a license. There is an exemption for those 16 years and older and were born after May 31, 1975 who haven't taken the course. They may hunt without a valid hunter safety certificate if they are under the direct supervision of an adult - 21 or older - who holds a valid Florida hunting license.

The guy who shot his girlfriend is 52 so he wasn't required to take the course as he was grandfathered in.

You can argue all you want about Florida needing tougher requirements before people can get a gun and/or hunt but it's a pointless exercise as you'd never get enough folks to agree with you.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
11. I've heard that some couples even play golf, camp and fish together too
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:29 AM
Apr 2012

Is your circle of friends so narrow and homogenous?

We have a lot of couples that frequent our local shooting ranges including my daughter, her husband and several other couples that are friends of theirs.

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
12. No, I'm just unfamiliar with hunters.
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:52 AM
Apr 2012

Just struck me as odd to go hunting as a couples thing. Fishing is relaxing, golfing is...not gonna get into that lol.

I do know couples who go shooting, but isn't going to the range way different from going hunting for wild hogs? I didn't mean to come off as criticizing, and I'm sure you didn't either, but as I said earlier: it just struck me as odd, so I asked if that was a common thing.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
13. Up here (Illinois) it's mostly upland birds, Pheasant etc., some go for ducks and geese too
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 12:24 PM
Apr 2012

I know several couples that are out along the Mississippi flyway camping and up before dawn in a blind or field for ducks and geese through the season, even after the first few snowfalls. Not my idea of fun, but there's a lid for every pot.

For years Hogs were only a Southern and Southwestern thing, but now feral Hogs are a growing sport area with their spread. They even are hog hunting in Upper Michigan now. I think I read that domestic pigs will go feral in only 3 or 4 generations and the way pigs breed and reproduce that's now long.

Hunting together, at least for me, is a lot more than just shooting though. I've gone with wife and friends, including other couples, had a great time and never got a single shot off. I've also gone and got enough pheasant and quail for a nice wild game dinner for 16 of us after a good weekend in the field.

For me, there's just something about being up with friends before dawn and walking a cut over cornfield in Iowa or an old railroad right of way in Southern Illinois at first light in crisp fall air with people you know and like. We usually wind up sitting in a small town diner for breakfast talking about shots missed or shots taken when everyone else is just waking up and starting to stir.

jeepnstein

(2,631 posts)
16. Happens frequently around here.
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 02:01 PM
Apr 2012

The popular image of hunters roaring around the back roads in a pickup truck drinking beer and shooting signs is not the way it really is. Most hunters take their hunting far too seriously to get drunk and stagger around in the woods hoping to sneak up on their prey. That's just not the way it really works.

Poachers? They're another story altogether.

There is a difference.

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
17. I sure hope he never intended on proposing to her
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 02:17 PM
Apr 2012

Pretty awkward having to say you thought your girlfriend/wife was a hog.

guitar man

(15,996 posts)
18. He's in deep shit
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 02:22 PM
Apr 2012

With no way out. He either has to admit he was shooting at sounds, which is a real no no, or, that he saw his girlfriend and still identified her as a hog. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes!



era veteran

(4,069 posts)
20. What apology would work here?
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:09 AM
Apr 2012

If that pig hadn't had on a tube top and that Molly Hatchet tatoo this would have never happened

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
27. But it's a classic!
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 05:23 PM
Apr 2012

You will never look at Burt Reynolds, Ned Beatty, John Voight, or a banjo the same ever again!

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
22. This thread is useless without pictures.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:30 PM
Apr 2012

In all seriousness, though the rate has declined precipitously, this is still one of the most common dumbass hunting mistakes. Not knowing your target and what is behind it.

A rustling bush is not a clear fucking shot at your prey, no matter how long the day has been, no matter how empty-handed you may be, no matter how excited you might be at finally getting a shot.

Buck fever gets humans shot.

 

sylvi

(813 posts)
23. From the "Comments" section:
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:59 PM
Apr 2012

Bryson • St Paul, Minnesota • 2 days 20 hrs ago

He almost got away with it but I heard she squealed on him.





Am I going to Hell for laughing at that?

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