Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:35 PM
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Author | Time | Post |
 Arizona Governor signs another pro-gun hunting bill (Original post) |
GreenStormCloud | Apr 2012 | OP |
| TheCowsCameHome | Apr 2012 | #1 | |
| ellisonz | Apr 2012 | #2 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #27 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #29 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #8 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #14 | |
| Politicalboi | Apr 2012 | #3 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #5 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #15 | |
| rl6214 | Apr 2012 | #81 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #85 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #4 | |
| OffWithTheirHeads | Apr 2012 | #6 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #7 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #18 | |
| provis99 | Apr 2012 | #9 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #11 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #17 | |
| spin | Apr 2012 | #127 | |
| provis99 | Apr 2012 | #130 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #131 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #10 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #12 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #13 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #22 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #25 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #28 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #30 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #35 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #38 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #42 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #44 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #50 | |
| PavePusher | Apr 2012 | #89 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #114 | |
| PavePusher | Apr 2012 | #129 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #134 | |
| AH1Apache | Apr 2012 | #96 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #102 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #112 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #118 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #119 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #120 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #121 | |
| X_Digger | Apr 2012 | #31 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #34 | |
| X_Digger | Apr 2012 | #39 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #41 | |
| X_Digger | Apr 2012 | #43 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #52 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #56 | |
| X_Digger | Apr 2012 | #57 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #62 | |
| X_Digger | Apr 2012 | #67 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #69 | |
| X_Digger | Apr 2012 | #71 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #72 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #74 | |
| X_Digger | Apr 2012 | #77 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #78 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #79 | |
| X_Digger | Apr 2012 | #80 | |
| PavePusher | Apr 2012 | #90 | |
| rl6214 | Apr 2012 | #83 | |
| ellisonz | Apr 2012 | #32 | |
| X_Digger | Apr 2012 | #45 | |
| ellisonz | Apr 2012 | #55 | |
| AH1Apache | Apr 2012 | #97 | |
| oneshooter | Apr 2012 | #101 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #46 | |
| GreenStormCloud | Apr 2012 | #95 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #23 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #24 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #26 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #33 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #36 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #40 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #51 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #53 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #58 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #60 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #63 | |
| PavePusher | Apr 2012 | #91 | |
| X_Digger | Apr 2012 | #47 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #49 | |
| X_Digger | Apr 2012 | #59 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #61 | |
| X_Digger | Apr 2012 | #64 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #68 | |
| X_Digger | Apr 2012 | #70 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #73 | |
| rl6214 | Apr 2012 | #87 | |
| rl6214 | Apr 2012 | #82 | |
| PavePusher | Apr 2012 | #88 | |
| petronius | Apr 2012 | #16 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #19 | |
| Remmah2 | Apr 2012 | #100 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #104 | |
| petronius | Apr 2012 | #105 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #108 | |
| petronius | Apr 2012 | #111 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #106 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #107 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #109 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #110 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #113 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #115 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #116 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #117 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #122 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #123 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #124 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #125 | |
| PavePusher | Apr 2012 | #128 | |
| Clames | Apr 2012 | #126 | |
| bongbong | Apr 2012 | #20 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #21 | |
| rl6214 | Apr 2012 | #92 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #37 | |
| sarisataka | Apr 2012 | #93 | |
| msongs | Apr 2012 | #48 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #54 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #65 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #66 | |
| gejohnston | Apr 2012 | #75 | |
| fightthegoodfightnow | Apr 2012 | #76 | |
| Remmah2 | Apr 2012 | #99 | |
| elleng | Apr 2012 | #94 | |
| AH1Apache | Apr 2012 | #98 | |
| oneshooter | Apr 2012 | #103 | |
| AH1Apache | Apr 2012 | #132 | |
| sarisataka | Apr 2012 | #84 | |
| ManiacJoe | Apr 2012 | #86 | |
| Daninmo | Apr 2012 | #133 |
Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:38 PM
1. This is from the Onion, right?
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Oh? - it's not?
Yay Jan Brewer. Our kind of leader. |
Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #1)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:39 PM
ellisonz (26,319 posts)
2. All Hail Governor Jan Brewer of Arizona!
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Proponent of the Gun Rights Agenda! Real
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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #27)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:49 PM
29. do you have a legitimate reason to disagree?
Response to Politicalboi (Reply #3)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:48 PM
5. hunters carrying pistols would be a major danger to you?
Response to Politicalboi (Reply #3)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:48 PM
rl6214 (7,434 posts)
81. I'd be more worried about someone smuggling pot or even growing it in the wilderness
Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:46 PM
4. I didn't know they never could
Response to gejohnston (Reply #4)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:50 PM
OffWithTheirHeads (9,031 posts)
6. Hell, you can carry a gun at the supermarket in Tucson, why would you not be able to take one
Response to OffWithTheirHeads (Reply #6)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:54 PM
7. Game regulations have nothing to do with Tucson supermarkets
Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:56 PM
9. apparently,
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robbery of armed hunters is a big problem in Arizona, so they need a handgun to protect themselves while armed with a rifle.
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Response to provis99 (Reply #9)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 11:02 PM
spin (14,739 posts)
127. In Florida, some hunters have told me that a wild boar can tree you ...
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #10)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:05 PM
12. stumble across some pot farm or meth lab
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #13)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:29 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
22. Using the handgun would be quicker than reloading your 5-round rifle.
Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #22)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:41 PM
25. And you just can't take a violent mugger down in the woods with that.......
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #25)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:48 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
28. Maybe you cannot.
Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #28)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:50 PM
30. because they can't make a valid point
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #35)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:03 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
38. nonexistent threat?
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Your posts would be quite funny if you did not actually believe the nonsense you post.
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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #38)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:08 PM
42. And nothing to substantiate the need for two firearms to do what one can
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #42)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:14 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
44. The hole you are digging could be done more efficiently
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if you would upgrade from a spoon to a shovel.
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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #25)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:52 PM
X_Digger (13,127 posts)
31. Where do you get this violent mugger shit?
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #34)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:06 PM
X_Digger (13,127 posts)
39. So.. you got nothing?
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #41)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:13 PM
X_Digger (13,127 posts)
43. You are the one who brought up 'violent muggers'. That's your straw man. Not mine. n/t
Response to X_Digger (Reply #43)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:19 PM
52. So Why Exactly do you need two firearms
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #52)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:27 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
56. Why do you dismiss the pot farms and meth labs?
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #52)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:28 PM
X_Digger (13,127 posts)
57. An unloaded long hunting rifle, slung over your back, maybe in a sleeve or case..
Response to X_Digger (Reply #57)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:33 PM
62. And again...what is the need that is so much more threatening to you...
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #62)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:45 PM
X_Digger (13,127 posts)
67. Self-defense. 2 legged or 4 legged.
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #69)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:54 PM
X_Digger (13,127 posts)
71. What part of.. 'around the base of the tree' didn't you get? n/t
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #72)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:02 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
74. I will give you credit for your honest answer.
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #72)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:14 PM
X_Digger (13,127 posts)
77. You are up a tree, your gun is on the ground. What, are you telekinetic?!?
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #78)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:19 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
79. Please elaborate on your "worse".
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #78)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:23 PM
X_Digger (13,127 posts)
80. 'makes things worse' -- what, the feral boar is going to steal it and start a life of crime?!?
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #69)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:55 PM
rl6214 (7,434 posts)
83. Do you know what a black powder rifle is and how it works?
Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #22)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:54 PM
ellisonz (26,319 posts)
32. Not any more...
Response to ellisonz (Reply #55)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 09:47 AM
97. That's original
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what's the matter, he got to you?
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Response to AH1Apache (Reply #97)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 10:11 AM
101. Thats just his idea of "civil conversation".
Response to ellisonz (Reply #32)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:15 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
46. Thank you for the reminder.
Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #22)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 07:26 AM
95. No. In the last few days that law was repealed.
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #13)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:30 PM
23. you need to get out of the city more often
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #24)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:46 PM
26. they didn't until 30 years ago
Response to gejohnston (Reply #26)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:54 PM
33. Gun advocates are always complaining about how Gun Control advocates are always putting new .....
Response to gejohnston (Reply #36)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:07 PM
40. And you think two firearms is going to help?
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #40)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:18 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
51. Certainly won't hurt.
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #53)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:29 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
58. Assuming that you are not the one doing the carrying
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #60)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:33 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
63. So, let's hear the argument.
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #33)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:16 PM
X_Digger (13,127 posts)
47. A cell phone in the middle of a national forest?!? *snort*
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #49)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:30 PM
X_Digger (13,127 posts)
59. OMFG, you really are a city dweller, aren't you?!?! n/t
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #61)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:35 PM
X_Digger (13,127 posts)
64. Feel free to go to a national forest and try to get cell service.
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #68)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:53 PM
X_Digger (13,127 posts)
70. "Take your cell phone and call it in." -- *snort*
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #33)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:07 PM
rl6214 (7,434 posts)
87. "m not buying your meth/pot farms justification. Take your cell phone and call it in."
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #13)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:51 PM
rl6214 (7,434 posts)
82. So you are hunting with a black powder rifle and have just shot your one shot and are
Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:11 PM
petronius (19,657 posts)
16. Rational and reasonable - no reason why a hunter shouldn't be able to carry what
Response to petronius (Reply #16)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:15 PM
19. He puts his rifle down and that mugger comes from behind and assaults him
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #104)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 07:59 PM
petronius (19,657 posts)
105. Why would it be "two unloaded guns"? It seems to me that it's currently legal
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for anyone who is not hunting to carry a loaded handgun in a holster - only hunters were prohibited from doing so. So all this law does is extend to hunters the same privilege that everyone else in the backcountry already had.
Since it is safer (for hunter and gun) to carry the rifle unloaded, a properly holstered handgun would be nice to have accessible in the event a coyote (human or otherwise) jumps you, a cougar decides to dispute the deer, you walk into a meth lab or pot farm, or a pissed off boar chases you up a tree. I'm unable to see any argument against this law: it doesn't add any more armed people to the wilderness, it has no resource implication, and it may make hunters a bit safer. So in all seriousness, what is your objection here?  |
Response to petronius (Reply #105)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 08:09 PM
108. The need to legislate for a nonexistent problem.
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #108)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 08:16 PM
petronius (19,657 posts)
111. Isn't leaving a useless law on the books an existent problem worth legislating?
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And really, if there's no harm, why is it a problem to pass legislation that allows people to exercise more choices?
In this case, however, there really is a benefit - real hazards exist in the wilderness, and a handgun is a useful tool for dealing with them. Why should hunters (unlike other wilderness users) be denied that tool, if there's no danger or cost involved in allowing it and no reason not to? |
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #104)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 08:06 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
106. Yes, ignorant.
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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #107)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 08:13 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
109. You said it. I quoted you exactly.
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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #110)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 08:20 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
113. I wish you would share whatever it is you are smoking.
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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #115)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 08:29 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
116. That is rich, coming from you. How do you categorize your post #110?
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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #116)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 08:52 PM
117. Ok....Smoke away....I'll stoop to your level since you think that will help you
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #117)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 09:15 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
122. You seem very confused, but I will help you out.
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #123)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 09:22 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
124. OK, I will play your game.
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #123)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 09:27 PM
126. Two only has one meaning.
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Toddlers who are learning to speak are excused but you have no legitimate reason...
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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #21)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:10 AM
rl6214 (7,434 posts)
92. So idiotic
Response to bongbong (Reply #20)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:17 AM
sarisataka (2,166 posts)
93. Could happen...
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It would ruin the meat but Nazis are pretty stringy anyway.
... maybe I said too much  |
Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:16 PM
msongs (30,532 posts)
48. gun owners...hunting each other lol nt
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #54)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:36 PM
65. regional and cultural bigotry
Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #66)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:06 PM
75. gangsters and pot growers are not
Response to msongs (Reply #48)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:41 AM
elleng (40,548 posts)
94. If only that were all there was to it.
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Response to AH1Apache (Reply #98)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 10:15 AM
103. At least he/she/it is maintaining a steady supply of them.
Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:58 PM
sarisataka (2,166 posts)
84. On one hand...
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Response to sarisataka (Reply #84)
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:06 PM
ManiacJoe (5,579 posts)
86. OK, now you are just showing off with your knowledge of the hunting laws.
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Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:58 AM
133. What about archery hunters
