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Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:15 AM

 

IMI Tavor Bullpup Rifle Coming to the USA

http://www.guns.com/imi-iwi-charles-daly-tavor-tar-21-bullpup-rifle-available-us-video.html



The Israeli Military Industries (IMI) Tavor TAR-21 will soon be available in the US. In order to sell on the American market, they will be manufactured in the States. The Israeli-designed bullpup in its standard configuration is not easily imported into the US for a handful of reasons, notably its overall length of 25.2 inches means that it is qualified as a short-barreled rifle (SBR) which means that it is a Title II weapon that requires a tax stamp and legal hurdles jumped in order to own. There is a designated marksman rifle (DMR) version that has an extended 18-inch barrel that might possibly be importable, however, its non-sporting configuration requires American manufacture for it to be available to all US citizens.

Quietly announced at this year's 2012 SHOT Show, manufacturer of the Tavor Israeli Weapon Industries (IWI) will be working with American importer Charles Daly to set up a factory to build the rifles here with the requisite number of US-made parts to qualify the rifles, assembled with a number of Israeli parts as well, as American in manufacture according to 922R law.

The Tavor is a bullpup rifle, meaning the bolt assembly and chamber are behind the trigger, as close to the buttstock of the rifle as possible. This is how the rifle manages to be so compact while not sacrificing barrel length. The Tavor is ambidextrous, although you have to swap bolts to change it from right-handed to left. It has a left-side charging handle and a Picatinny rail on the right side as well as along the top of the rail, for optics and lights and lasers or other rifle accessories.

(more at link)

How long before the usual suspects start demanding that import of this gun be stopped, just as they (rather impotently) have called the for banning of the FN Five-Seven?

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Reply IMI Tavor Bullpup Rifle Coming to the USA (Original post)
Johnny Rico Apr 2012 OP
gejohnston Apr 2012 #1
PavePusher Apr 2012 #2
lapfog_1 Apr 2012 #3
petronius Apr 2012 #18
BiggJawn Apr 2012 #4
slackmaster Apr 2012 #5
Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #6
slackmaster Apr 2012 #7
Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #8
DonP Apr 2012 #11
jpak Apr 2012 #9
Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #10
Hoyt Apr 2012 #13
Tejas Apr 2012 #15
Hoyt Apr 2012 #16
discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #19
Hoyt Apr 2012 #22
discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #24
Simo 1939_1940 Apr 2012 #30
discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #34
ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #29
Tejas Apr 2012 #44
AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #57
Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #17
X_Digger Apr 2012 #23
Union Scribe Apr 2012 #31
Hoyt Apr 2012 #26
Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #35
Hoyt Apr 2012 #37
friendly_iconoclast Apr 2012 #28
ObamaFTW2012 Apr 2012 #12
ileus Apr 2012 #27
Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #36
Callisto32 Apr 2012 #48
Tejas Apr 2012 #14
discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #20
Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #21
ileus Apr 2012 #25
DrDan Apr 2012 #32
gejohnston Apr 2012 #33
DrDan Apr 2012 #39
Xela Apr 2012 #38
ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #40
Xela Apr 2012 #42
ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #43
Remmah2 Apr 2012 #41
ellisonz Apr 2012 #45
PavePusher Apr 2012 #46
ellisonz Apr 2012 #47
PavePusher Apr 2012 #50
oneshooter Apr 2012 #51
ellisonz Apr 2012 #52
oneshooter Apr 2012 #53
ellisonz Apr 2012 #54
Callisto32 Apr 2012 #49
Air Marshal8 Apr 2012 #56
Air Marshal8 Apr 2012 #55

Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:35 AM

1. my son will be happy

he has been wanting one. They have been exporting it to Canada for a few years, and is legal with an "unrestricted" PAL.

http://www.canadaammo.com/product.php?productid=12&cat=0&page=1

As of 2008, it is available for civilian customers to purchase in Canada. The Canadian civilian version comes standard with the Mepro reflex sight and a slightly longer barrel to meet the Canadian requirement for non-restricted semi-automatic centerfire rifles to have a barrel length of at least 470 mm.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI_Tavor_TAR-21

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 02:54 AM

2. OMG, its a UZI machine guns!!1!11!!!

 

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 04:30 AM

3. cant wait until they start making this one...

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Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 03:37 PM

18. Nice gun! What does the little red button do?

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 10:13 AM

4. Run for your LIVES!

It's an evil BLACK RIFLE!!! Just like George Zimmerman used!

But there's no bayonet lug on it, so it should be OK...

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 10:22 AM

5. As is true for most bullpup rifles, those suck for people who shoot left-handed

 

Unless you like getting hit in the face with hot ejected cartridge cases.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 10:57 AM

6. You may be interested in this one.

 

Not a bullpup, but I'm impressed with the engineering Beretta has done to make this weapon so easily convertible between left and right setups:

&list=PL308D0014547772B7

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Response to Atypical Liberal (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 11:04 AM

7. That's a good weapon, but it's not available in California

 

At least not without some significant functional alterations.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:20 PM

8. From what I can tell, there's no semiautomatic version.

 

That being the case, in practical terms it's not available anywhere in the USA...

(edit)

The guy in the video does say that they're working on a semiauto version...we'll see.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:46 PM

11. I thought most Bullpups (e.g. Steyr AUG) were ambi ejectors?

I thought I read that the AUG was designed to eject left or right, with the slide of a panel, or at least that it was easy to reconfigure?

I'm a Southpaw rifle shooter too and spent a year plus with the older M-16's ejecting hot brass into my face, not good for your complexion. That's also why I have a Browning BPS that bottom ejects as my field and trap gun.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:24 PM

9. Stop importing guns - especially this one .

It's just plain stupid to want one of these.

It's "too short" (wink wink)

yup

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Response to jpak (Reply #9)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:25 PM

10. See? I *told* you the usual suspects would speak up on this!

 



BTW...are you calling for a ban on importation of all firearms?

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Response to Johnny Rico (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:51 PM

13. Well until jpak posted, we just had a bunch of folks drooling over new lethal weapons they hope

to add to their cache someday.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:59 PM

15. YUP, BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!

 

Now we have folks stereotyping gunowners as droolers.





as drooling idiots = as droolers

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Response to Tejas (Reply #15)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 02:09 PM

16. So what "response" did you have upon seeing the photos/videos of weapons above?

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #16)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 05:05 PM

19. Sorry...

...I'd have responded sooner but I was busy mopping up some drool.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #19)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 06:08 PM

22. Makes a mess of finish.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #22)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 06:23 PM

24. Finish...

Swedish and especially the Danish. (I prefer the cheese)

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #24)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 04:11 AM

30. Ahem.......that would be Finnish. :-) NT

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Response to Simo 1939_1940 (Reply #30)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:06 AM

34. You are trying to crimp the mirth? n/t

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #22)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 09:58 PM

29. That is one of the great things about space-age polymers!


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Response to Hoyt (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 5, 2012, 12:28 AM

44. $3.95 a minute and I'll drool for you daddy...oooooooooohhh

 

Not sure what fantasy you have this week, all I've read so far is your usual condemnation for even looking at the pictures.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #16)

Mon Apr 9, 2012, 12:11 PM

57. I think it's a plastic piece of shit.

But I wasn't going to buy it anyway. I like the new Beretta rifle.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 02:32 PM

17. And if there was a group that discussed cars, most folks would "drool" over a new sports car.

 

This is a surprise...why?

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Response to Johnny Rico (Reply #17)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 06:22 PM

23. Because the "Good Democrats" (TM)(R)(C) are supposed to be horrified, don'cha know?!?

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #23)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 04:21 AM

31. I'm thinking at least three threads

will be started in H&M by people stepping over each other to be horrified. They wrshup gunzzzzzz!1! Ban them arllll!

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Response to Johnny Rico (Reply #17)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 07:57 PM

26. So you admit lethal weapons make you drool.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #26)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:11 AM

35. Note that I put "drool" in quotes.

 

So they don't make me drool as such, but I will freely admit that upon seeing pictures of some lethal weapons (which describe 99.9% of weapons since the spear was invented), my reaction is a desire to own them.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Reply #35)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:38 AM

37. Oh, I see. We are using "drool" in a different context.

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Response to jpak (Reply #9)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 08:13 PM

28. DNRTFOP, did you? It's going to be manufactured in the US, not imported.

man·u·fac·ture (mann-you-fakt-chure)
v. man·u·fac·tured, man·u·fac·tur·ing, man·u·fac·tures
v.tr.
1.
a. To make or process (a raw material) into a finished product, especially by means of a large-scale industrial operation.
b. To make or process (a product), especially with the use of industrial machines.
2. To create, produce, or turn out in a mechanical manner: "His books seem to have been manufactured rather than composed" (Dwight Macdonald).
3. To concoct or invent; fabricate: manufacture an excuse.
v.intr.
To make or process goods, especially in large quantities and by means of industrial machines.
n.
1.
a. The act, craft, or process of manufacturing products, especially on a large scale.
b. An industry in which mechanical power and machinery are employed.
2. A product that is manufactured.
3. The making or producing of something.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:23 PM

12. Being a lefty,

 

it's hard to find a bullpup rifle that doesn't put hot brass in my face. I would love to own a Tavor. Hurray for IMI!

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Response to ObamaFTW2012 (Reply #12)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 07:58 PM

27. Kel-tec to the rescue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kel-Tec_RFB




of course you have to find one in stock somewhere....

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Response to ileus (Reply #27)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:13 AM

36. Half a dozen for sale at Gunbroker right now.

 

Apparently $1800 or so is what the market will bear at the moment...

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Response to ileus (Reply #27)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 10:11 AM

48. They try stuff other companies won't.

Unfortunately, they should changer their corporate registration from Kel-Tec CNC to Kel-Tec Vaporware.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:56 PM

14. UNREC for misleading OP - That is an AK-47

 


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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 05:07 PM

20. Does it come with a thing that goes up? n/t

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #20)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 05:16 PM

21. Don't all black plastic guns come with things that go up?

 

That's what I've heard...

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 07:57 PM

25. We need more sporting firearms like this imported.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 07:39 AM

32. insert Tim the Toolman Taylor grunt here

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Response to DrDan (Reply #32)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:55 AM

33. I always thought of myself as

being more like the much brighter Al, just without the overbearing mother.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #33)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:15 AM

39. I always though of myself as

being more like the much clumsier Tim with the same attractive wife.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:09 AM

38. Mixed feelings...

Good job creator, that's a plus. OK rifle. I like the FAMAS look better, even the Brit rifle has more flair.

But honestly, I would have preferred that the investment went into expanding national industries like making civilian legal M14's with solid, forged steel receivers, like the ones these guys make: http://www.lrbarms.com/

Xela

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Response to Xela (Reply #38)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 02:00 PM

40. What is the difference between

a semi-auto m14 and an m1a?

I have never heard of anything refered to as a "semi-auto m14" before.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #40)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 05:15 PM

42. Never, ever?

That's strange. I thought it was pretty well known that "M1A" is a trademark owned by Springfield Armory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1A_rifle

Xela

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Response to Xela (Reply #42)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 06:02 PM

43. Learn something new every day.

Thanks.

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Response to Xela (Reply #38)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 02:03 PM

41. LRB has a classic vintage old school look.

 

I hate plastic furniture.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 01:28 AM

45. Death Spewer. n/t

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #45)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 01:41 AM

46. What features cause this classification....

 

and by what mechanism do they accomplish this?

Specifics, please.

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #46)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 02:24 AM

47. lol

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #47)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 11:09 AM

50. Soooo......? Nothing, eh? n/t

 

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #50)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 11:55 AM

51. Of course"nothing" he doesn't know enough to answer

such a question. So you get nothing except cartoons and silly faces. He believes it hides his ignorance of the subject matter, but all it does is emphasize it.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #50)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 12:56 PM

52. Not really.

Tis tax season and that's more painful than reading your song and dance.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #52)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 01:12 PM

53. No longer on"ignore" am I?

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #52)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 01:16 PM

54. Hey ignored person...

...still replying to this post. You're still ignored.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 10:12 AM

49. I'm concerned with the lack of a trigger guard.

I think there ought to be a little more "guarding the trigger" going on.

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Response to Callisto32 (Reply #49)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 05:39 PM

56. Are you perhaps looking at the magazine latch?

 

?

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 05:33 PM

55. That's so cool! I'll be getting one for sure!

 


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