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Sat Mar 24, 2012, 02:42 PM

New Black Panthers offer $10,000 bounty for capture of George Zimmerman (Wanted: Dead or Alive)

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SANFORD Members of the New Black Panther Party are offering a $10,000 reward for the "capture" of George Zimmerman, leader Mikhail Muhammad announced during a protest in Sanford today.

When asked whether he was inciting violence, Muhammad replied defiantly saying: "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."

(SNIP)

Pastor Moses Brown of Tampa said he was disappointed with the Panthers' approach.

"We believe in a message of justice, not hate," said Brown, who was in town to pray at the memorial and attend the Monday event at Sanford's Civic Center. "We believe justice will come through the court system."

Brown, who is also the Chief executive officer of Feed The Children, said he has been meeting with other Christian ministers to discuss the case.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/os-trayvon-martin-new-black-panthers-protest-20120324,0,1231157.story

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Reply New Black Panthers offer $10,000 bounty for capture of George Zimmerman (Wanted: Dead or Alive) (Original post)
shadowrider Mar 2012 OP
Broderick Mar 2012 #1
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shadowrider Mar 2012 #2
murielm99 Mar 2012 #3
safeinOhio Mar 2012 #18
shadowrider Mar 2012 #20
safeinOhio Mar 2012 #23
Riftaxe Mar 2012 #42
shadowrider Mar 2012 #45
Tejas Mar 2012 #25
Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #4
shadowrider Mar 2012 #5
shadowrider Mar 2012 #7
ileus Mar 2012 #6
madrchsod Mar 2012 #8
shadowrider Mar 2012 #9
ellisonz Mar 2012 #34
Cirque du So-What Mar 2012 #51
oneshooter Mar 2012 #52
ellisonz Mar 2012 #57
cloudbase Mar 2012 #10
shadowrider Mar 2012 #13
AH1Apache Mar 2012 #53
jeepnstein Mar 2012 #11
shadowrider Mar 2012 #12
sarisataka Mar 2012 #14
shadowrider Mar 2012 #16
ellisonz Mar 2012 #35
sarisataka Mar 2012 #37
ellisonz Mar 2012 #38
sarisataka Mar 2012 #39
ellisonz Mar 2012 #40
sarisataka Mar 2012 #41
gejohnston Mar 2012 #43
ellisonz Mar 2012 #44
shadowrider Mar 2012 #46
Hoyt Mar 2012 #49
Oneka Mar 2012 #15
shadowrider Mar 2012 #17
safeinOhio Mar 2012 #21
shadowrider Mar 2012 #22
Tejas Mar 2012 #26
safeinOhio Mar 2012 #29
Tejas Mar 2012 #32
sarisataka Mar 2012 #33
era veteran Mar 2012 #19
Logical Mar 2012 #24
Hoyt Mar 2012 #50
ileus Mar 2012 #55
Hoyt Mar 2012 #60
357magnums Mar 2012 #59
uppityperson Mar 2012 #61
Ian David Mar 2012 #64
Tejas Mar 2012 #27
Oneka Mar 2012 #30
spin Mar 2012 #28
Callisto32 Mar 2012 #31
rl6214 Mar 2012 #36
Hoyt Mar 2012 #47
shadowrider Mar 2012 #48
Ian David Mar 2012 #54
burf Mar 2012 #56
Ian David Mar 2012 #58
Hoyt Mar 2012 #62
Ian David Mar 2012 #63
Kennah Mar 2012 #67
AH1Apache Mar 2012 #65
Tejas Mar 2012 #72
alp227 Mar 2012 #66
burf Mar 2012 #68
jeepnstein Mar 2012 #69
ileus Mar 2012 #70
HALO141 Mar 2012 #71
AH1Apache Mar 2012 #73

Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 02:47 PM

1. Manson couldn't be happier

But is it black vs white or will it be along the lines in this case, Hispanic vs. black. Rewards for vigilante justice is not the way to better race relations. Jmo

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Response to Broderick (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 02:48 PM

2. .



Now, I anxiously await the arrival of those who decry the vigilantism supposedly demonstrated by pro-gun people to chime in and decry this obvious case.

How long do you think I'll have to wait?

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Response to shadowrider (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 03:05 PM

3. The Southern Poverty Law Center considers

the New Black Panthers a hate group.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/new-black-panther-party

I would trust the judgement of the SPLC over just about anyone.

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 05:27 PM

18. I'm a member and support their war on

hate. They go after groups of any color, left or right that spew this kind of crap. Now, I'd like to see any post started by this poster that went after a white racist group.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #18)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 05:32 PM

20. Not germaine to the conversation.

And I didn't bring up the SPLC.

Please take your faux outrage elsewhere.

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Response to shadowrider (Reply #20)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 06:19 PM

23. As my response was to post number 3 and not to you,

Your answer is not germaine to my post. Take your reading skills else where.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #23)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:55 AM

42. You criticize the OP

Then tell him he is irrelevant to the criticism?

Consistency is just word to you isn't it?

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #23)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 05:54 AM

45. (Headslap) I must need new bifocals. Sorry about that.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #18)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:18 PM

25. "white racist group", or ANY racist group for that matter

 

Can you name any that have advertised a bounty on someone - dead-or-alive?

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 03:10 PM

4. Here's a picture of the flyer: Note that it says "Wanted Dead or Alive".

 



(the picture of the flyer is from a local Fox affiliate...couldn't find it anywhere else)

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Response to Johnny Rico (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 03:12 PM

5. Just. Shakin. Head.

That is all.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 03:40 PM

7. Note

None of the usual suspects has shown up to condemn this. I guess it's ok to be a vigilante if it's a cause you believe in.

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 03:31 PM

6. Now this is getting entertaining...the next person Zman shoots may be legal.

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 04:06 PM

8. the new black panthers are street thugs

they have nothing in common with the 60`s panthers.

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Response to madrchsod (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 04:10 PM

9. The lack of condemnation of this action

is very telling, especially since none of the usual suspects who are so quick to condemn pro-gun owners of being vigilantes have weighed in.

And, I agree with you.

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Response to shadowrider (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:49 AM

34. I condemn this completely.

As do many I would imagine...

I await your apology.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #34)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 11:36 AM

51. You may as well wait for hell to freeze over

Guess it was never considered possible that 'the usual suspects' may be sick of such blatant shit-stirring horseshit. What useful purpose does engaging someone in a shit-slinging contest that begins that way? I thought this was supposed to be a discussion forum - not an elementary-school insult contest.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #34)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:30 PM

52. What took you so long to do so.

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Response to oneshooter (Reply #52)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:52 PM

57. Waiting to see what nonsense y'all would spout.

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Wanna rant about Eric Holder and the New Black Panthers?

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 04:26 PM

10. The Saints

will put out a $50k bounty on him.

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Response to cloudbase (Reply #10)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 04:38 PM

13. As sick as that is

It got a chuckle out of me

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Response to shadowrider (Reply #13)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:31 PM

53. New here but been lurking for quite awhile

 

I thought it was kind of humorous also. That being said, it is absolutley horrendous that this org. is putting a bounty out on this man. I suspect this will end very badly for someone.

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 04:32 PM

11. That could get really messy.

What are they going to do at the next rally when some schmuck shows up with a paper bag with "proof of performance" in it. Kind of like in a Sam Peckinpah movie.

It seems to me that an awful lot of people want to get their verdict in before the justice system has a chance to act. And certainly before all the facts are assembled and considered.

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Response to jeepnstein (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 04:36 PM

12. Vigilantism at it's worst

Let the justice system work.

Are these guys gonna go house to house in Orlando and Jacksonville?

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Response to jeepnstein (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 04:43 PM

14. Didn't someone say

in an earlier thread that there is no lynch mob calling for blood?

Would that person care to respond to the OP?

Or any other?

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #14)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 05:02 PM

16. I've been asking the same question.

"No one is calling for blood"

Oh yes they are.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #14)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:50 AM

35. No one on DU...

...three did, one got banned, one got their post hidden and apologized, and the other got past the jury. Want more do you want?

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #35)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:43 AM

37. Credit where due

Sorry I am confused. Were those three on this thread?
The lack of response here is very noticeable.


I will gladly condemn the actions of any hate group, regardless of public opinion.

... and I give you credit for stepping into a hostile environment where the majority holds a different opinion and join them in condemnation of a ridiculous and hateful action.

Thank You

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #37)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:50 AM

38. Many on DU have a general hatred of the Gungeon...

...just a fact.

Here you go: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=23468

I think it's pretty ridiculous to presume and any but a small fringe very very very few would support such an idea.

I was kinda waiting to see what outlandishness would get posted in this thread before posting.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #38)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:21 AM

39. I doubt

many do support it but many have not stepped up to speak against it.

I followed the link and see your point.

Zimmerman's death is one of the four outcomes I see for him. Mob justice is not an answer for his actions (which from what has been reported I see as indefensible)

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #39)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:37 AM

40. I personally think Zimmerman is going to get off because of this ridiculous law.

His current lawyer Sonner is incompetent. He'll get a better lawyer if this even goes to trial. It's important to remember that this dickwad has a retired magistrate judge for a father.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #40)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:40 AM

41. That would go against the letter and spirit of the law,

Unfortunately you may be right

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #40)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:15 AM

43. I doubt it

unless the evidence is tainted or the investigation totally sucked. Even then, they are going to convict him anyway simply because they know how many death threats the Casey Anthony jury received. Never mind that there was so much reasonable doubt you can drive a truck through it. The media was a cheerleader for the DA, who tried the case in the media. Floridians ate up all of the bullshit the DA and media dished out and some went back for seconds.
Plus, they will be accused of being racist. The chances of finding an impartial jury is slim to none.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #43)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:49 AM

44. Rodney King. n/t

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #43)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 06:53 AM

46. In a case like this

it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to have the jury be anonymous and sequestered. And in all fairness, they should probably ask for a change of venue to ensure, as much as possible, a fair trial.

My opinion is he'll be arrested, go to trial and only cop to a lesser plea if it looks like a conviction is coming. That said, the prosecutor must be very, very careful in the charges he/she files. If they file murder charges (and I may be wrong about this, if I am someone please correct me), they must show intent. IOW, did Zimmerman go out that night with the intent of killing someone who happened to be Martin? That would be a high bar to prove. A lesser charge (2nd? Manslaughter?) would have a greater chance of a conviction, IMO, but wouldn't satisfy most people who want a murder conviction but don't understand the high level of proof necessary.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #40)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 10:17 AM

49. I think so too. Only need one juror who loves guns and thinks "Stand Your Ground" is gospel.

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 05:01 PM

15. I wonder if this is

just about making a quick million?


Dr. Malik Zulu Shabaz of Washington, D.C. is receiving donations from black entertainers and athletes. They hope to collect $1 million by next week, Muhammad said.



It's sad to see "dancing in the blood of victims" used for money grubbing. That kind of dancing should be reserved for anti-rights advocates only!!


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Response to Oneka (Reply #15)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 05:07 PM

17. -- Snort --

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Response to shadowrider (Reply #17)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 05:34 PM

21. Snort all you want, I'm sure

all progressives condemn this. I'd still like to see any post that you started condemning any white power, KKK or militia group. Or, are you not as upset by them? Not a response, one that you started like this one.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #21)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 05:52 PM

22. Good. You answered the question.

If and when a white group puts out a bounty on a black man, I"ll post it. You see, I'm open-minded on this and condemn, in any way shape or form, a "bounty" on someones head without due process and a trial. Seeing, however, I haven't seen that, I'm at a loss to post any, unless I make it up.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #21)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:22 PM

26. "I'm sure all progressives condemn this."

 

Cites?

Links?

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Response to Tejas (Reply #26)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:03 PM

29. Southern Law Poverty Center has long

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #29)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:31 PM

32. This is the DU, not the SLPC

 

Condemnation anywhere on the DU besides here in the Gungeon?

Again, cites or links welcomed!

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Response to Tejas (Reply #26)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:33 PM

33. I found more

people who believe the NBP does not exist but is just a front for right wingers than those who oppose their action.

On pro-gun sites I find near unanimous condemnation of Zimmerman and demands for trial...

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 05:30 PM

19. That is a hate group

WTF, now Fatwahs.

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:00 PM

24. This will just give the right more ammo. Not a good idea to help this cause!

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Response to Logical (Reply #24)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 10:25 AM

50. Basically agree. But, right wing needs no more "ammo" -- they are going to hate anyway.

They'll use this publicity stunt by a small group -- that some say doesn't really exist -- for their racist purposes and to spur more gun sales.

Yahoos will eat it up and go buy more bullets, guns and assault weapon accessories. Zimmerman will become a right wing martyr like that worthless Randy Weaver before we know it.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #50)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:17 PM

55. Randy Weaver is still alive...

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Response to ileus (Reply #55)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:10 PM

60. I know, and the racist fool is a martyr to right wing gun lovers.

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Response to 357magnums (Reply #59)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:26 PM

61. Are you calling that poster a punk? Please clarify. thank you

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #61)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:01 PM

64. It's a term of endearment. Like "goon." n/t

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:25 PM

27. Any word on when AG Eric Holder will arrest the NBP's responsible?

 

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Response to Tejas (Reply #27)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:13 PM

30. Right after

he prosecutes them for voter intimidation in Philly...Seems the BP
has free reign in Holders DOJ.

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:33 PM

28. It would appear to me that this is an attempt to stir up racism in our nation ...

possibly for financial gain.

We have made some gains in recent years to overcome racism and we appeared to be making progress. It is unfortunate that some groups such as the KKK or militant militia organizations and apparently the New Black Panther Party wish to turn the clock back to the sadder times in our history.

I have absolutely no problem with demonstrations against the Trayvon Martin shooting. While all the details in the incident are not currently available, I fear that without all the attention generated by the media and the public gatherings these details might have been covered up and buried.

We should all remember that all the citizens of our nation are similar to a crew in a boat attempting to row to a distant shore. If we all row together we will reach the shore. Unfortunately if some of the crew decides not to row and some decide to drill holes in the bottom of the boat, the best we can hope for is to go in circles.

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:15 PM

31. Nothing like putting a price on a man's head to prove your moral superiority...

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:33 AM

36. Like one of our more vocal anti-gun zealots likes to say

 

Judge, jury and executioner...

Haven't seen him post on this thread yet.

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 07:54 AM

47. The "New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense" (official name) is dead wrong on this, but it gives a

lot of folks an excuse to run out and buy another friggin gun. And a lot of folks will use that excuse.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #47)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 08:40 AM

48. Well Hoyt, I'm glad to see you condemn this action

As do I.

Speaking personally, I have no desire to go get another weapon as a result of this horrible tragedy. I'm quite happy with the 2 I have.

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:03 PM

54. Did BOTH members of The New Black Panthers endorse this? n/t

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Response to Ian David (Reply #54)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:39 PM

56. Looks as though you haven't

been keeping up with the recent recruitment effort of the NBPs. According to reports, their membership has increased four fold from your numbers:

"If the government won't do the job, we'll do it," Muhammad said, leading his group of eight party members in chants like "freedom or death" and "justice for Trayvon" while making the iconic gesture of raising their fists into the air.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/os-trayvon-martin-new-black-panthers-protest-20120324,0,1231157.story

The thing that amazes me is these idiots get any press at all. But, thats the corporate news for ya'.




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Response to burf (Reply #56)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:57 PM

58. I could still fit the entire NBPP in my car. n/t

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Response to Ian David (Reply #58)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:55 PM

62. That's about the truth. But a bunch of right wing gun lovers will run out and buy another one

because that car might suddenly try to mow them down.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #62)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:58 PM

63. I wouldn't let them actually DRIVE my car. n/t

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Response to Ian David (Reply #63)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:21 AM

67. Suppose, just suppose ...

... I want to ride my bicycle, I want to ride my bike.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #62)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 06:09 PM

65. Jeeeeeez Hoyt

 

If a car tries to mow me down on purpose then I would have every right to defend my self up to and including deadly force although I would try to get the hell out of the way and out of danger but if I cannot, then I would draw my legally carried weapon and I would fire if I can safely do so.

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Response to AH1Apache (Reply #65)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:41 PM

72. Screw that, I would blow them to hell with the Stinger

 

I bought at the gunshow last week.




YUP!

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:10 PM

66. so outrageous it offended Jesse Jackson and Pat Thurston (a local prog talk host)

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:25 AM

68. Well, lookee here,

New Black Panther Leader Arrested after Pawning Gun

A member of the New Black Panther Party who went on national television to offer a reward for the capture of George Zimmerman was arrested in Gwinnett County.

According to the DeKalb County Sheriff's Office, Hashim Nzinga, 49 of Norcross, was arrested at probation office he was reporting to in Lawrenceville. He taken to Dekalb County Jail and charged with possession of a firearm by a convicted felon. A warrant was sworn out in DeKalb County after evidence surfaced that Nzinga tried to pawn a semi-automatic handgun at a Stone Mountain pawn shop.

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/local_news/new-black-panther-leader-arrested-after-pawning-gun-201203

I guess this one should be filed under "Not really surprising". Maybe Hashim was pawning the gun to help with the reward fundraiser.

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Response to burf (Reply #68)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:37 AM

69. That is delightful.

I'm sure he'll issue a communique that basically says it's someone else's fault.

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Response to jeepnstein (Reply #69)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 09:14 AM

70. oops....

How'd that get there...

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Response to shadowrider (Original post)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:13 PM

71. It would appear that soliciting murder for hire

is not a crime when the black panther party is the one doing the soliciting.

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Response to HALO141 (Reply #71)

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 04:38 PM

73. Or intimidating voters

 

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