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Fri Mar 23, 2012, 01:56 PM

'Fast and Furious' probe: Chief suspect released more than once

'Fast and Furious' probe: Chief suspect released more than once


By Richard A. Serrano

March 22, 2012, 12:12 p.m.


Reporting from Washington— Manuel Celis-Acosta, the chief suspect in the ATF’s "Fast and Furious" investigation who was caught but released at the U.S.-Mexico border in May 2010, was also stopped and released two months earlier while in possession of a Colt .38-caliber pistol purchased illegally under the gun-tracking operation.

The revelation that officials twice declined to arrest their prime suspect shows that agents were keenly aware of Celis-Acosta’s activities yet repeatedly turned down opportunities to charge him with felony offenses and bring a quick end to the Fast and Furious probe. Instead, the investigation dragged on for months more, with the loss of about 1,700 U.S. firearms on both sides of the U.S.-Mexico border.

The new disclosure was highlighted in a letter Thursday to Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr., as the two top congressional investigators on Fast and Furious demanded answers as to why Celis-Acosta was twice permitted to dodge arrest. It was sent by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista), chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), the top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Fast and Furious was launched Oct. 31, 2009, and ran until a month after a U.S. Border Patrol agent was killed in December 2010. Two Fast and Furious assault weapons were recovered after his slaying near the border.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-fast-furious-celis-acosta-20120322%2c0%2c7732026.story

Just a botched sting, though, I'm sure.

And yeah, I know, that "right wing" LA times is at it again...

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beevul Mar 2012 OP
Oneka Mar 2012 #1
sarisataka Mar 2012 #2
burf Mar 2012 #3
razorman Apr 2012 #6
petronius Mar 2012 #4
burf Mar 2012 #5
PavePusher Apr 2012 #7

Response to beevul (Original post)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 12:54 AM

1. Kicked

All these crickets are keeping me up.

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Response to beevul (Original post)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 01:53 AM

2. I really dislike conspiracy theories...

especially when the government is involved. The usual explanation is simply bureaucratic stupidity.

The gross incompetence in f&f however is mind boggling.

Did the BATFE actually allow 2000 weapons (give or take) to be illegally sold,forget to track them,forget to tell their office where they knew the weapons were going, THEN misplace who actually authorized this Charlie Foxtrot?
And nobody thought to tell the AG?

But they sure remembered it for Demand Letter 3.

Please explain, I don't want to wear the hat again


P.S. Don't tell me Bush did it; he also created fecal material so he could invade Iraq. Should we do that again too?

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:01 AM

3. With the number at 2000 weapons that were sold

that were later smuggled into Mexico, F&F seems to be a lot bigger than the small scale operation some here would like us to believe it was.

I would still like to see an inventory and report on the number of guns that went south in the State Department authorized sales. I would guess maybe a fraction of the original inventory is left in the hands of the Mexican Army and LE .

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 11:50 AM

6. I tend to agree with you about conspiracy theories. For most of these conspiracies (right or left)

to be possible, the conspirators would have to be of superhuman intelligence and will. I have seen very little evidence that are many superbeings in public life, especially government. That being said, "Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean the world's not out to get you."

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Response to beevul (Original post)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:16 AM

4. You misunderstand, that *proves* it was working

Any operation can catch a big fish once, but to do it twice requires a top-notch law enforcement program...

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Response to petronius (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:21 AM

5. That brings up a question.

If they threw them back, were they really big fish, or has Holder's DOJ resorted to "catch and release" law enforcement?

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Response to petronius (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 12:24 PM

7. Ooowwwww! Coffee... up nose.... oooowwwww.....!!!!! n/t

 

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