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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:42 AM

Attention GOP/NRA/ALEC - the Backlash is here

Your stealth state-by-state campaign of asshole "Castle Laws" and douchebag "guns-everywhere-on-everyone-all-the-time" legislation have borne Strange Fruit.

Trayvon Martin shootings has brought 24/7 media attention to your right wing gun nuttery.

America and the media are waking up - Ed Schultz has a castle law map as his wallpaper on his TV show.

You will pay for your mendacity at the ballot bx this November.

yup

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Reply Attention GOP/NRA/ALEC - the Backlash is here (Original post)
jpak Mar 2012 OP
shadowrider Mar 2012 #1
jpak Mar 2012 #3
shadowrider Mar 2012 #5
jpak Mar 2012 #9
shadowrider Mar 2012 #10
jpak Mar 2012 #11
shadowrider Mar 2012 #12
jpak Mar 2012 #13
discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #40
friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #54
Cirque du So-What Mar 2012 #6
liberal N proud Mar 2012 #8
krispos42 Mar 2012 #37
DonP Mar 2012 #2
jpak Mar 2012 #4
spartan61 Mar 2012 #7
DonP Mar 2012 #23
jpak Mar 2012 #27
DonP Mar 2012 #31
jpak Mar 2012 #41
DonP Mar 2012 #44
oneshooter Mar 2012 #67
krispos42 Mar 2012 #38
Dragonfli Mar 2012 #65
jeepnstein Mar 2012 #14
jpak Mar 2012 #16
jeepnstein Mar 2012 #17
jpak Mar 2012 #28
krispos42 Mar 2012 #42
jpak Mar 2012 #58
krispos42 Mar 2012 #60
oneshooter Mar 2012 #61
jeepnstein Mar 2012 #69
shadowrider Mar 2012 #75
jeepnstein Mar 2012 #76
toddwv Mar 2012 #20
jeepnstein Mar 2012 #21
Icicle Mar 2012 #24
jeepnstein Mar 2012 #30
toddwv Mar 2012 #71
Logical Mar 2012 #66
jeepnstein Mar 2012 #68
Logical Mar 2012 #70
samsingh Mar 2012 #15
gejohnston Mar 2012 #25
samsingh Mar 2012 #29
gejohnston Mar 2012 #34
samsingh Mar 2012 #59
rl6214 Mar 2012 #50
ileus Mar 2012 #18
jpak Mar 2012 #39
Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #19
Hoyt Mar 2012 #33
spin Mar 2012 #55
Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #36
Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #46
ellisonz Mar 2012 #48
eqfan592 Mar 2012 #53
spin Mar 2012 #56
X_Digger Mar 2012 #57
spin Mar 2012 #63
X_Digger Mar 2012 #64
gejohnston Mar 2012 #22
Dragonfli Mar 2012 #26
gejohnston Mar 2012 #32
Dragonfli Mar 2012 #35
gejohnston Mar 2012 #43
Dragonfli Mar 2012 #47
gejohnston Mar 2012 #49
rl6214 Mar 2012 #51
Dragonfli Mar 2012 #62
Straw Man Mar 2012 #74
Straw Man Mar 2012 #73
HALO141 Mar 2012 #45
eqfan592 Mar 2012 #52
Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #72
gejohnston Mar 2012 #77

Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:46 AM

1. Show me where it's documented "guns-everywhere-on-everyone-all-the-time" legislation"

Since it's "legislation" I'm sure you won't have any problem pointing to a direct link (not a blog).

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Response to shadowrider (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:50 AM

3. Teh Gungeon Memory Hole claims another victim

Guns on campus laws

Guns in bars laws

Guns in church laws

Guns in parks laws

Open carry laws

Shall issue CW permit laws

All part of the GOP/NRA/ALEC agenda.

Please try to keep up

yup

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Response to jpak (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:52 AM

5. I asked you to show me "guns everywhere all the time" legislation

You haven't done that.

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Response to shadowrider (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:00 AM

9. Why don't you do a search of the Gungeon threads over the last 2 years

It's all GOP/NRA cheer leadiing all the time.

Look down the Gungeon threads today - is there one about a law permitting guns in the workplace in Maine?

Is there one about the National Reciprocity law?

Is there one about concealed weapons in Georgia?

You fool no one.

Memry Hole Fail

epic

yup

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Response to jpak (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:07 AM

10. So you can't point to actual legislaton that says "guns everywhere by everyone all the time"

Figures.

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Response to shadowrider (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:08 AM

11. That is the desired result of the GOP/NRA gun agenda

again.

FAIL

yup

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Response to jpak (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:14 AM

12. You're avoiding the question. Where is the legislation (i.e. law) saying

"Guns everywhere all the time"? It's a simple question really.

You made the assertion, please back it up.

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Response to shadowrider (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:16 AM

13. Nope - you are dissembling and spinning like a top

yup

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Response to jpak (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:42 PM

40. I do so...

...enjoy IRONY.

thanks

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Response to jpak (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:36 PM

54. You mean you're not going to back up your claim?

O-kayyy...

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Response to jpak (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:54 AM

6. Another attempt to drag discussion down into semantic noise

It's their raison d'Ítre, yunno. Deflect, deny, spin, repeat.

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Response to jpak (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:57 AM

8. You touched the third rail

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Response to jpak (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:39 PM

37. Only one of which might have to do with the Florida shooting.

Might.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:50 AM

2. Backlash, yeah sure

But we're all still waiting to hear your response and action plan to repeal the new loosened gun laws in Maine.

And I'm not sure having a TV personality, with less than 200,000 viewers on any given day, putting a map up is really a hell of a lot of backlash.

But then again it seems to be all you have to work with.

Still celebrating that Wisconsin courthouse victory and the Scott Walker ban on carrying in a few offices too?

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Response to DonP (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:52 AM

4. LePage is despised in Maine - and people are sick of Teagbaggery in Augusta.

The GOP will be back to their minority status this November and LePage will be rendered useless.

Backlash

yup

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Response to jpak (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:56 AM

7. I soooo much hope so.

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Response to jpak (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:14 AM

23. You've been saying that for over a year now, where are the changes?

Aside from an incredibly minor event here and there, even in your own home state, you can't seem to show us any real legislative or judicial success for gun control.

I don't really give a shit how much everyone hates him (funny how he still got elected didn't he?), the people are sick of this and that according to you,but ... no results is no results.

Pretty pathetic version of backlash when you have to rely on Scott Walker and Bloomie for your "big" successes in gun control.

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Response to DonP (Reply #23)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:38 AM

27. Umm - there is something called "an election cycle" - it's every 2 years in Maine

Please try to keep up.

This November we kick the gun toting teabaggers out of office.

yup

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Response to jpak (Reply #27)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:58 AM

31. Why didn't you "kick them out" last election?

I'm sure this widespread hatred of all things 2nd amendment uyou claim is sweeping the Maine voters isn't new,

Why weren't you able to get rid of some or most of them in 2010? And why haven't the remaining Dems in Maine tried to stop all this pro gun legislation?

More importantly what are you personally planning to do about it, besides whine online every chance you get?

Circulating repeal CCW petitions? Joining gun control groups? Starting the Maine gun control website? Please share your action plan so other states and your fellow gun control enthusiasts can follow your fine example.

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Response to DonP (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:44 PM

41. We will kick them out this November - in Maine and Wisconsin and....

No GOP/NRA for you

yup

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Response to jpak (Reply #41)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:03 PM

44. Rather not answer the question - as usual

I don't care what you think you are going to do. You can have as active a fantasy life as you like.

The question was why haven't you done it yet and what are you doing personally about getting the increasingly liberal gun related laws repealed?

Or can we just assume you are just another online mouth, that really never actually does anything to support what you supposedly believe in, like the rest of our gun control fans?

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Response to jpak (Reply #41)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:54 PM

67. Question for you jpak. What is ALECK?

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Response to jpak (Reply #27)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:40 PM

38. Maybe.

But it's unlikely that people will say "the primary reason I voted Democratic was because of their gun-control stance".

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #38)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:45 PM

65. Alec has a good sales team no doubt about it, with enough money they will get what they want /nt

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:37 AM

14. Zimmerman was down on the ground getting his head beaten...

just prior to the shooting. He got stitches and had grass stains on his back. That's according to the police report. But lets not let the facts get in the way of a good time, shall we?


I suspect that after the dust settles on this case for a few days the facts will be quite different from the narrative some folks are trying to write. I've got no problem at all with sending someone to prison for committing a crime, but I'm not so sure Zimmerman is a good candidate for prosecution. Justice grinds slowly, and for good reason.

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Response to jeepnstein (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:43 AM

16. Really - what police report is this from?

The one no one has seen?

Vigilante apology fail

yup

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Response to jpak (Reply #16)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:45 AM

17. We'll see about that.

The facts will take longer to come out than the fabrications.

ETA:

Here's the police report from the incident. http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/martinpolicreport.pdf


I'm sure you'll be quite happy with the way it reads. There are lots of witnesses so I'm confident the facts will come out given enough time.

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Response to jeepnstein (Reply #17)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:42 AM

28. The kid was fighitng for his life after being stalked and trapped by the vigilante killer

Vigilante apologist fail

yup

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Response to jpak (Reply #28)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:46 PM

42. That's one possibility.

It's not the only one, but it's the most likely, IMHO.

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #42)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 07:17 PM

58. Who's blood was on Zimmerman? His own - or his victim?

He could have slipped on the wet grass chasing down the "effiing c--n"

yup

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Response to jpak (Reply #58)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 07:38 PM

60. I certainly don't know

The police report mentioned Zimmerman had a bloody nose, if I recall correctly. Which does not prove either way who started the confrontation.

Assuming Zimmerman fired at close range, he's probably have spatters of Trayvon's book all over him, too.

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #60)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 07:55 PM

61. What I would like to know is was it a "contact wound" or not.

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Response to jpak (Reply #58)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 09:25 AM

69. They won't know for a few days at least.

What probably happened is when he went to the hospital to get stitched up an officer escorted him and collected evidence including his clothing, photos, and a dozen other little details of life that will be essential to figuring out what happened. Everyone's blood looks alike until it goes to the lab. They'll also make note of the grass stains, if that's what they really are, to try to make sense of what happened.

Pretty much the same thing will happen with the deceased. They would have collected his clothing, taken tons of pictures, and will perform a detailed autopsy. An awful lot can be told by looking at the gunshot wounds.

If Zimmerman's story doesn't hold water after all the evidence is examined you can be pretty sure they'll charge him. You don't make a murder charge against someone based on your first emotional response. Hysteria has no place in the court room.

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Response to jeepnstein (Reply #69)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:10 AM

75. Personally, I'm done commenting on this case

Don't you know the "head wounds and grass stains" were added to the police report afterwards so the police could cover their tracks (As I was told on another (maybe this?) thread?)

I want the facts, many of which will never be known till this case hits the courtroom, before I decide guilt or innocence.

So far, we've only heard media reports (not that their natural anti-gun bias would play any part in the reporting) that paint Zimmerman in a very negative light. I've seen other reports showing Martin in less than flattering terms flashing (apparent) gang signs (which proves nothing as far as what happened, only that he wasn't the apparent angel he's being portrayed to be). The point is, if you listen to one side, then you listen to the other (and we haven't heard from Zimmerman yet), you usually find the truth somewhere in the middle. My mind is open but the responses I've gotten so far to my opinion (see sig line) lead me to believe Zimmerman should be poisoned, hung, shot, quartered with the pieces then burned at the stake before he gets a fair trial. I can't go along with that.

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Response to shadowrider (Reply #75)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:27 AM

76. I absolutely agree.

This thing will become a circus. "Justice" is a slow process and is bound to make more than a few people unhappy. The courts usually get it right when all is said and done. I'm content to wait for that.

It does rile me that everyone is dipping their hands in the deceased's blood either making him a saint or the vilest kind of sinner. The facts will eventually speak for him and what happened that night. It's too bad we have folks with agendas making it up as they go.

Zimmerman? It's his bullet. He owns it and whatever happens is on him. Time will tell.

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Response to jeepnstein (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:01 AM

20. Bullshit.

While we don't have all of the facts, the information we have been given suggest that Zimmerman got out of his car and started stalking Treyvon, a 17 year old kid who was walking home after buying snacks. Zimmerman, frustrated by the idea that another "fucking coon" was walking around freely (where he was lawfully permitted to walk, btw), decided to provoke a physical confrontation which ended withe Zimmerman shooting to kill an unarmed 17 year old kid.

We have the 9/11 tape.
We have Treyvon's friend with whom he was on the phone.

We have eyewitnesses saying that they were coached by a police force reticent to do an actual investigation.

I'm guessing that this is going to cause even more outrage when the facts come out and people realize that blacks are truly 2nd class citizens in the eyes of the law.

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Response to toddwv (Reply #20)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:10 AM

21. What's your source for that Zimmerman quote?

You know, the racial slur? I'm really interested in that angle.

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Response to jeepnstein (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:26 AM

24. It's on the 911 call

...that Zimmerman made himself.
They generally bleep it when they're playing it on TV, but he's describing the kid and he says "f**king coon!"
Followed by "They're everywhere" or something to that effect.

It's not something someone's friend heard, or just hearsay. It's on the recorded 911 call.

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Response to Icicle (Reply #24)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:47 AM

30. Found this one...



But I'm unclear where that is said.

ETA: He does say something under his breath that could very well be that. He sounded almost reasonable up to that point. If he does go to trial you can bet your bottom dollar the prosecution will play that one over and over again.

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Response to jeepnstein (Reply #21)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:20 PM

71. There are several sources.

TYT have ran a piece on it.

Here's a good "cut to the chase" clip:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002449632

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Response to jeepnstein (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:47 PM

66. You have no idea what happened either. If Zimmerman started the physical....

contact for no reason then he cannot use a gun when getting his ass kicked.

Wow, you know no more than anyone else. You bias is amazing.

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Response to Logical (Reply #66)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 09:10 AM

68. I probably am a bit biased.

You're right on that. And I have lots of problems with Zimmerman initiating contact with the kid, if he did. That's the part I want to hear, who approached who. And I'd prefer to hear about it from a few of the several witnesses. My initial gut reaction was that Zimmerman screwed up badly and was probably prison-bound. But since even a werewolf deserves a fair trial I'm just wanting to look at it from all angles. If it turns out that he stepped over the line and broke the law I have no problem at all with him going to prison.

The police report, while not the final word on what happened, certainly doesn't read like things are how the media wants to portray them. And I have no doubt since they took him into custody and did an extensive interview they weren't prepared or even inclined to arrest him. The whole thing is more than a bit bothersome. You don't lock up a man based on an emotional response. You do it based on the facts of the case, all the facts.

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Response to jeepnstein (Reply #68)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:10 PM

70. I agree with you that there is a lot of lynch mob mentality here at times on this emotional case.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:40 AM

15. i'm with you. the nra executice should be put in jail for many murders

and the gun companies should be taken to court in civil suits

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Response to samsingh (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:28 AM

25. while we are at it

let's take car, booze, companies to task.
Then, let's take the Brady execs to task every time an unarmed victim was murdered or robbed.
Then let's go after the bong manufactures and Tommy Chong for all of the gang violence their customers finance in the US, Mexico, and Asia.
You don't like gun culture, fine. I don't like the drug culture, fine. You are the only one showing intolerance by whining for prohibition.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #25)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:44 AM

29. we have got to the point where someone can shoot an unarmed teenager and potentially get away

with it. This is a direct cause and effect.

i don't know why you have a need to comment on my gun posts. We don't agree. i'm not trying to change you.

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Response to samsingh (Reply #29)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:24 PM

34. hoping to change you

If Sanford PD actually followed the law, Zimmerman would be in jail. The guy who wrote the law even said so. Zimmerman would be walking around even under the old duty to retreat law. That is because Sanford PD is in need of a major house cleaning.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #34)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 07:18 PM

59. how does that help the victim?

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Response to samsingh (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:33 PM

50. what a joke

 

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:46 AM

18. let's work to keep the 2A progress going.

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Response to ileus (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:41 PM

39. Dead black kids = 2A progress - for racist vigilantes

yup

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:49 AM

19. You may be right.

 

This may end up hurting 2A rights.

I think it's a shame. It seems obvious that regardless of who started the actual physical confrontation, Zimmerman was looking for a fight.

I don't think it's right that you can go looking for a fight and then when you find one, you can claim self-defense when you kill the person you were seeking out to fight.

Hopefully this will result in a re-visiting of Stand Your Ground laws such that you can't claim self-defense if you knew, or should have known, that you were initiating a confrontation to start with.

This would still give true victims of violent crime the right to defend themselves without a duty to retreat, while not giving a free pass to anyone who shoots someone who claims "self-defense".

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Response to Atypical Liberal (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:14 PM

33. Unfortunately, there are a lot like Zimmerman carrying guns.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #33)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:45 PM

55. If so incidents like this one should be a daily event ...

please explain why they are not.

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Response to Atypical Liberal (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:38 PM

36. Wow. You must've had an epiphany. Congrats.

You're starting to sound reasonable.

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #36)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:12 PM

46. I did.

 

What did it for me was the poster who pointed out that the guy went looking for a fight.

He's right.

It doesn't matter, then, whether when he actually found his fight who then started it.

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #36)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:26 PM

48. ....

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Response to Atypical Liberal (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:54 PM

53. It isn't right, but people could claim self-defense in that situation with our without a SYG law.

Given that this case is likely to go to trial, with the existing Florida SYG law on the books, I can't say I really understand your position. The problem here isn't the law, but the corrupt police department enforcing it.

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Response to Atypical Liberal (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:00 PM

56. It could lead to a rewriting of the Stand Your Ground laws ...

to deny that right to a person who pursues another person and initiates the confrontation.

I believe that the clear intent of the law was to remove the duty to retreat when you are attacked by an individual who intends to severely injure or kill you. Either the law was poorly written or the authorities in Sanford are using the law as an excuse for not prosecuting Zimmerman.

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Response to spin (Reply #56)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 07:16 PM

57. The 'initiate a confrontation' is already in there..

Media pundits have conveniently missed it, however.

776.041 Use of force by aggressor.

The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or

(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:

(a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or

(b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #57)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:35 PM

63. Apparently many authorities have missed that part ...

or are using the Stand Your Ground law as an excuse not to arrest an individual in a questionable case.

I agree that the law is very clear, but I am not a cop or a prosecutor. I can't explain the reasoning of the authorities in Sanford, but then I am not part of the of the investigation. I don't have access to all the information that they should have accumulated if they did run a thorough investigation of the incident.

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Response to spin (Reply #63)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:38 PM

64. *nod* We're all backseat drivers at this point. n/t

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:10 AM

22. So Ed Schultz supports duty to retreat?

I find that hard to believe. You do know that without castle doctrine, you would be expected to retreat out of your house in some places, you know
And the media has been reporting it wrong, just like the lazy corporate media always does if reality does not fit the narrative.
Ever notice both sides attack the media as biased or lazy when it does not serve their purpose, but uncritically listens to the media when it does?

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:32 AM

26. That's only because people everywhere are out to get you, even in your own Home!

Look under the bed often,
keep a good supply of ammo everywhere in your house
pack at least 2 guns always (even... ESPECIALY in the bathroom)


Remember, stand your ground
Reload
and stand your ground some more!!!! (bell towers are real good for ground standing)


Those ALEC guys really understand the legislation we need, us Dems need to get on the bandwagon with this whole ALEC outfit.
They are the only ones that understand how afraid we all must be, even in our homes if anything interferes with our ability to shoot anything that scares us.

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #26)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:14 PM

32. no one is out to get me

but I notice that your reply is substance free bullshit.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #32)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:37 PM

35. Yes they are!! that is why you must be afraid you will have to flee from your home!

If you can't shoot what frightens you, what other options are there? I know of no other way to solve problems, like with most problems, something must be shot.

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #35)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:03 PM

43. Tell you what,

How about learning some critical thinking skills and come back when you grow up to have an honest discussion.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #43)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:18 PM

47. Why? This is the Gundgeon, I was just trying to fit in

The closest thing to critical thinking skills I have seen are rationalizations of how more guns in more hands equals safety.

I am trying to agree with you guys, one thought I had is a special permit for children that are hunted in gated communities, much like a doe permit, you would have restrictive limits on how many you can bag. That is a good compromise for all those pussies that don't know the happiness of caressing a warm gun. Of course I wouldn't give away the farm, as always one should be able to kill more than one Buck (suspicious looking adult male) without a group permit.

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #47)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:46 PM

49. you have been reading the wrong ones

you are sounding like one of the less rational antis. Others are rational and make valid points once in awhile without being inane or bigoted. Please try to be more like the latter.

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #47)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:37 PM

51. Written like a 12 year old

 

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Response to rl6214 (Reply #51)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:13 PM

62. Why because guns turn me on? you are a hater stop hating and start shooting. /nt

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #62)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 03:28 AM

74. (Never mind.)

(It wasn't worth the effort.)

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #47)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 03:05 AM

73. Jonathan Swift called.

He wants you to stop -- you're disgracing the profession.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:09 PM

45. We'll see.

Kinda doubt it, though.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:48 PM

52. You mean the backlash that is going to backfire like crazy...

....once Zimmerman is put on trial? Yeah, good luck with that, jpak.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 12:20 AM

72. what a load of garbage flamebait nonsense. Go post this on FR. yup.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 01:37 AM

77. I have a question

Your stealth state-by-state campaign of asshole "Castle Laws" and douchebag "guns-everywhere-on-everyone-all-the-time" legislation have borne Strange Fruit.

What is the deal with Castle Laws? Does Ed's map explain the differences in the laws? They are not alike. For example, the claim has been made that Florida's Castle Law is vague enough to allow shooting a child asleep on your couch. I doubt it, and I don't see it happening. Of course there is the "anti" meme of "legally shooting someone in the back while taking your TV." Show me that state law. I concern myself with two states because of where I spend my time.

Wyoming's Castle Doctrine law is very clear and specific. If you shoot or stab someone in either of those scenarios, your new ZIP code will be 82301.
Oh yeah, meet your new mayor:
http://corrections.wy.gov/institutions/wsp/index.html

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