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Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:42 AM

 

Pastor fires on toy guns in Easter baskets.

http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/11275022-418/pfleger-fires-on-toy-guns-in-easter-baskets-.html

There was a time when kids wanting toy guns had limited media images of cowboys and Indians or cops and robbers to emulate. Today, not so.

So the Rev. Michael Pfleger said he is challenging the sale of the toys — in Easter baskets — to a generation plagued by more violent and rampant use of guns in their own neighborhoods.

“I am writing to express my concern and outrage that Kmart is selling Easter baskets, which are obviously for children, with toy guns in them,” Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina Catholic Church in Auburn-Gresham, wrote to officials at the big box retailer, in a Mar. 9 letter obtained by the Sun-Times.

“With the increasing gun violence in Chicago and across this country, I am amazed that you would choose to offer toy guns to our children to make them comfortable with playing with them. I am asking you to remove any baskets with toy guns in them from your store’s shelves immediately,” Pfleger wrote.

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Reply Pastor fires on toy guns in Easter baskets. (Original post)
Johnny Rico Mar 2012 OP
Historic NY Mar 2012 #1
PavePusher Mar 2012 #7
DrDan Mar 2012 #2
freshwest Mar 2012 #3
gejohnston Mar 2012 #4
Tx4obama Mar 2012 #29
gejohnston Mar 2012 #30
X_Digger Mar 2012 #5
PavePusher Mar 2012 #8
ileus Mar 2012 #6
fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #13
saras Mar 2012 #9
ileus Mar 2012 #11
fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #14
gejohnston Mar 2012 #16
PavePusher Mar 2012 #18
gejohnston Mar 2012 #19
PavePusher Mar 2012 #17
fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #27
Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #25
ileus Mar 2012 #28
aikoaiko Mar 2012 #10
Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #12
JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2012 #15
beevul Mar 2012 #20
Remmah2 Mar 2012 #21
GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #22
Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #23
jeepnstein Mar 2012 #24
Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #26

Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:50 AM

1. Really......

guns & Easter don't mix.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 01:45 PM

7. Toys and religious holidays don't mix.

 

There, fixed it for you.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:56 AM

2. good for the pastor!

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:58 AM

3. Bet they're from China. Remember the bags of plastic toys that included box cutters? Shown on

The Jay Leno show and I personally found some of those at the Dollar Stores.

In brightly colored sheaths, but fully functional in sets themed for very young children.

Not sure what the message was there, possibly just recycling the memes being presented to the world about the USA.

If only someone would post that picture of the gun-toting Jesus on this thread, it would be complete. What was the old saying?

God, Guns and Guts (or Glory?). Sorry, I forgot the third part of the right wing trinity.

This pastor is in serious jeopardy of losing his job if he's in a wingnut church. I don't think guns and Easter go together.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 12:17 PM

4. I don't know about Chicago

but violence, including gun violence, is decreasing in the US and Canada. IIRC, this is the guy that wanted to "snuff out" a local gun shop owner.
That said, I have never seen toy guns in Easter baskets. As someone who grew up with guns and is as pro gun rights as they come, and I think its kind of tacky.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:21 PM

29. There was a guy on TV today that said 41 folks were shot in Chicago this past weekend.


Including a six year old girl that was shot dead by two bullets while playing on her front porch.

I think it was on MSNBC or CNN.

Edited to add:

Five shot within one hour, here: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-03-17/news/chi-2-wounded-in-gage-park-shooting-20120317_1_people-shot-multiple-gunshot-wounds-rash-of-gang-related-shootings





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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #29)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:57 PM

30. could be,

but they were gang related. All of them are violating Chicago city ordnance by having handguns, Illinois law by not having FOIDs, and chances are, federal law for being felons in possession. If they answered a newspaper ad and drove across to another state, that would be violating another federal law.
The war on drugs, and someone's party money hard at work.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 12:38 PM

5. Ahh, Pflaky Pfleger. *yawn* n/t

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 02:02 PM

8. Pfleger is a known and proven pfucktard...

 

...and should spike himself to that cross he pfeigns being burdened with.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 01:25 PM

6. I tend to agree, the parents should decide what guns to insert into Easter Baskets.

I for one would not want any of those cheap poly guns in my childs basket.


As for me and my family we're a alloy framed family.

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Response to ileus (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 07:30 PM

13. Yea...

What did you have in mind? A real gun?

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 02:16 PM

9. Guns in Easter baskets? WTF? Do they come with rabbit skinning instructions too?

 

Completely irrespective of any gun control issues, that is just in incredibly foul taste. It seems like something a militant atheist libertarian would do as a statement, not the normal behavior of a whole neighborhood, let alone something a chain would sell.

I guess if you have a giant bird-molesting rabbit in your neighborhood, you have to train the kids early.

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Response to saras (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 03:17 PM

11. anyone can skin a rabbit...

easiest of all animals to skin. My son at 5 was able to skin rabbits...

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Response to ileus (Reply #11)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 07:32 PM

14. In the spirit of Easter

....no doubt.

Does your post have something to do with gun violence?

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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:01 AM

16. I don't know about Easter

but certainly in the spirit of eating.
A lot of people have ham for Easter. Pigs are very intelligent animals. Is it more civilized and "in the spirit of Easter" to munch on a sentiment being that spent its last days in disgusting conditions before being killed by someone in a barbaric manner? That is even before we get talking about Tyson factory farms.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:53 AM

18. "sentiment being"?

 

You've been reading Charlotte's Web, haven't you?

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #18)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 12:02 PM

19. I read it a long time ago

but I would say more sentiment than rabbits.
I take it you didn't have small kids in the mid 1990s, you didn't mention the movie Gordy

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Response to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:52 AM

17. If Easter was actually about rabbits....

 

except perhaps in the context of food, you might have a point. But you don't.

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Response to PavePusher (Reply #17)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 07:49 PM

27. Rabbits, Easter.....

Your post gas nothing to do with the thread or guns.

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Response to ileus (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 03:49 PM

25. Late bloomer. Shit man, I wuz skinning bears at two.

You should come over to our tree and share some nuts sometime.

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #25)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:13 PM

28. He's 7 now he asked if we could bear hunt this year.

I told him we probably could, but the chances of taking a bear without baiting (illegal) are really slim.

If I thought we were actually going to hunt bear I'd pick up a 50 cal upper for the AR we're building.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 02:30 PM

10. As a RKBA advocate, I can only hope the Pfleger keeps opening his mouth.


What a benighted fool. I can only imagine that his idiocy is due to his guilt on failing the moral guidance of his community, if indeed they are "plagued by more violent and rampant use of guns in their own neighborhoods.."

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 03:42 PM

12. high-larious

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 10:53 AM

15. Freeze! I have a SuperSoaker!

"The toys in question are plastic water guns or Nerf dart shooters"

From the article, these are little kids' toys, not replica Glocks with orange muzzles.

Rev Pfleger's doting concern is duly noted.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 12:57 PM

20. Snuffy?

Why would anyone give a shit what he thinks?

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 01:28 PM

21. Toys or candy, an example of passive parenting.

 

Keep your kids busy with empty mindless stuff so they can grow up into brain dead adults. Then if they grow up they can get drunk and stoned to celebrate the holidays while they sit around and watch basketball/hockey on the boob tube.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 03:03 PM

22. Let the market sort it out.

If they sell enough of them then it is OK with the people who bought them and they voted with their money to have guns in Easter baskets.

If they don't sell enough of them then people didn't like it and voted with their money against it.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 03:28 PM

23. Toy guns? Really? Show me the toy guns.

 



There is nothing in these baskets that even remotely passes for a "gun". In fact, it's virtually impossible to go to a toy store and buy your kid a toy gun anymore. I tried to find some toy guns for my 3-year-old boy last Christmas and gave up - there was nothing in the big-box toy stores or Walmart or anyplace else that looked like a real gun. Unless you count these garish "cowboy" guns with bright orange muzzle plugs as real-looking:



Everything has been fantasticized to the point of lunacy. About the closest to a real-looking toy gun I found was a Star Wars stormtrooper blaster rifle.

I figure next year I'll get him some Airsoft guns, minus the BBs.

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Response to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 03:35 PM

24. I don't buy my kids toy guns.

They have a couple of Nerf blasters which we get out some times but I strongly discourage shooting at people or the dogs with them. Shooting the cat is impossible and would result in a horrific series of revenge attacks.

We have BB guns, but they're not toys. We handle and shoot them accordingly.

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Response to jeepnstein (Reply #24)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 03:54 PM

26. I'm with you.

Buying kids toy guns, especially guns that look real, is the most idiotic thing a parent can do. Best way to get your kid shot.

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