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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:13 AM Nov 2015

‘NRA’s Sick Jihad': N.Y. tabloid declares war on the NRA

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[div id="container" style="display:inline"]A New York tabloid is calling the National Rifle Association's platform "sick jihad" and the organization's leader "Jihadi Wayne" after the organization fought legislation that would prohibit people on the government's watch-list for terrorists and suspected terrorists from purchasing guns.

The New York Daily News, a longtime NRA adversary, has published two front-page stories during the past week calling out the NRA and its "gun-loving Republican cohorts" for opposing legislation that would block people on the watch-list from purchasing firearms.

The tabloid's response comes after The Washington Post and others reported that, over the past decade, more than 2,000 terror suspects legally purchased guns in the United States — and a bill to put an end to it had hit NRA resistance.

"These bills have rarely made it out of committee, in part due to vehement opposition from the National Rifle Association and its allies in Congress," Wonkblog's Chris Ingraham wrote last week.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/the-new-york-daily-news-is-declaring-war-on-the-nra-with-these-front-pages/

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‘NRA’s Sick Jihad': N.Y. tabloid declares war on the NRA (Original Post) SecularMotion Nov 2015 OP
there you have it....a tabloid declares war. ileus Nov 2015 #1
I never question what I read there. discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 #2
Considering one does not have to be a terrorist, Indydem Nov 2015 #3
Well actually RepubliCONS have done just that to voters fasttense Nov 2015 #4
Don't you know.. cannabis_flower Nov 2015 #5
More people in love with Bush/Cheney generated lists that skips due process? DonP Nov 2015 #6
"Are you now or have you ever been...?" Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #7
He won't answer Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #8
The 5th A is like a smorgasborg of short ribs in DU: Pilfered. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #9
Yeah, just like those 'terrorists' at the ACLU, and Mother Jones... benEzra Nov 2015 #10
Your salient and well-researched points will, of course, be studiously ignored friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #11
I know Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #12

ileus

(15,396 posts)
1. there you have it....a tabloid declares war.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:52 AM
Nov 2015

At lest now we know using the washington post as a source is okay.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
3. Considering one does not have to be a terrorist,
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:55 AM
Nov 2015

Have terrorist intentions, or even be a criminal to make it on the completely arbitrary "terrorist watch list," I have no idea how anyone would, in good concience, advocate denying people in said arbitrary list, their constitutional rights.

Unless of course you are ok with governors declaring people "risky voters" and denying them the right to vote in their next election based solely on their personal, unevidenced beliefs.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
4. Well actually RepubliCONS have done just that to voters
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:01 AM
Nov 2015

All these new rules for voter ID's, the Supremes decision when W got selected president and RepubliCON purge lists do what you describe to voters. But don't worry they can still buy a gun.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
6. More people in love with Bush/Cheney generated lists that skips due process?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:58 AM
Nov 2015

I wonder how many of the folks applauding using the Bush/Cheney list to stop firearm purchases will object to using it to block voting and travel under "President Trump"?

The "Terrah Watch list" was started by Cheney and Bush and included such threats to our safety and way of life as Edward Kennedy, (similar name blocked him from boarding a flight at Logan).

No way of knowing who is on the list, how you got there, no way of having your name removed.

The same list that was abhorrent under Bush is suddenly beloved because they think they can use it to hamper gun purchases.

Nothing like selective moral outrage.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
7. "Are you now or have you ever been...?"
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:13 PM
Nov 2015

Da Daily Newz and the WaPo are on my 5th Amendment Watch List.

How 'bout you, Secmo. Do you support denying a Constitutional right based on being on a government list?
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
8. He won't answer
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:17 PM
Nov 2015

He will not be able to justify supporting the Bush secret list. Just another one of his Google dumps that he refuses to discuss. Shows the low level he has to stoop to to try and get any attention as the group he hosts is so dead he does not even post over there.

benEzra

(12,148 posts)
10. Yeah, just like those 'terrorists' at the ACLU, and Mother Jones...
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:56 PM
Nov 2015

who have pointed out that the Bush watchlists are full of innocent people, and have no accountability and no due process.

"We can't have terrorist watch lists that affect people's rights without due process -- the right of innocent people to challenge their inclusion through an adversarial proceeding and get off the lists. But no such system has been created. A September 2009 report by the Inspector General of the Department of Homeland Security found that the process for clearing innocent travelers from the list is a complete mess. The consequences of being mistakenly added to a terror watch list can be more severe than simply missing a plane. Law enforcement routinely run names against the watchlists for matters as mundane as traffic stops, and innocent individuals may be harassed even if they don’t attempt to fly." ---American Civil Liberties Union


More from the ACLU:
http://www.aclu.org/watch-lists
http://www.aclu.org/unlikely-suspects?redirect=technology-and-liberty/unlikely-suspects

Mother Jones: Nine years on the no-fly list because an agent checked the wrong box

Washington Post: Senator Kennedy Flagged by No-Fly List

San Francisco Chronicle: No-fly blacklist snares political activists

Geez, 'terrorists' everywhere.

Marshals: Innocent People Placed On 'Watch List' To Meet Quota

Infants on the Terrorist Watch List

How YOU could end up on the no-fly list

Various blacklist absurdities

SecMo, do you think 'terrorists' (as you define them) should be allowed to work in medical facilities? Schools? Drive gasoline tankers? Pilot aircraft or ships? Participate in unions? Work for the Federal government? Adopt children? If you think someone is a 'terrorist' simply because their name is on a list of people to check out...

As I've pointed out before, "No Fly, No Buy" is a 2005 Bush admin proposal, and a favorite cause of Muslim-despisers like Peter King.
 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
11. Your salient and well-researched points will, of course, be studiously ignored
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:21 AM
Nov 2015

As an aside, why any DUer would ape the PR practices of
a certain notorious "celebrity religion" escapes me...

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