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Between 2001 and 2013, guns killed more people (Original Post) SecularMotion Nov 2015 OP
Apples and oranges, as usual. N/T beevul Nov 2015 #1
Suicides, too? Those "other " deaths were not voluntary. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #2
Bad Bad....mean guns! ileus Nov 2015 #3
Now i'd love to see the same stat for other countries. yodermon Nov 2015 #4
So when did Iraq and Afghanistan become the 51st and 52nd states beardown Nov 2015 #5
No, gun deaths are increasing about 1-1.5% a year. nt flamin lib Nov 2015 #9
Proper, secured storage would go a long way ManiacJoe Nov 2015 #6
We know that suicide rates remain stubbornly high hack89 Nov 2015 #7
"People killed more people" TeddyR Nov 2015 #8
Read my sig line. nt flamin lib Nov 2015 #10

yodermon

(6,143 posts)
4. Now i'd love to see the same stat for other countries.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:17 PM
Nov 2015

ANY other country that's not currently in, like, a war zone.

beardown

(363 posts)
5. So when did Iraq and Afghanistan become the 51st and 52nd states
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:16 PM
Nov 2015

"Killed more people in the US".

Regardless of that minor quibble, suicides, cars, booze, legal pharmaceuticals, and botched medical care probably all killed more than gun deaths. Let me know when DU starts a ban all cars group. Let me know when somebody says we should make pharmaceuticals so expensive you can't afford them, uh, wait, big Pharma and the repubs did that one. Scratch that one. Uh, let me know when somebody says banning booze will fix booze problems. Been there, done that and back with two amendments.

The expanding control of government to repubs and corporate dems is most certainly going to greatly increase the death toll from poor nutrition, lack of access to health care, inadequate education, and a plethora of other roll backs of the safety net and corporate feudalism TPP agreements to a point where gun deaths will merely be an asterisk in the stat sheets.

Gun deaths are declining and have been. Can you say the same about the other major causes and soon to be more major causes of death in the US? A recent story is noting the decrease in the life expectancy of US white middle class high school educated men and the accompanying increase of tens of thousands a deaths a year from it. I'm concerned that this is merely the canary in the coal mine and that many other demographics will see increased death rates not from gun deaths, but from the effects of losing more elections to the repubs.



hack89

(39,171 posts)
7. We know that suicide rates remain stubbornly high
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 11:27 PM
Nov 2015

Perhaps now is the time forva national anti-suicide campaign.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
8. "People killed more people"
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 11:29 PM
Nov 2015

Fixed it for you. Guns didn't magically jump up and shoot someone. A human pulled the trigger, either to kill themselves or someone else. Quit blaming inanimate objects for something they didn't do.

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