14-year-old boy dies after West Homestead shooting
By Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
Monday, December 19, 2011
Last updated: 6:44 pm
A 14-year-old boy who was shot in the back this afternoon in West Homestead died while undergoing surgery at a Pittsburgh hospital , according to the Allegheny County Medical Examiner's office.
Police Chief Christopher Deasy said officers responded to a call for multiple gunshots at around 2:40 p.m. and found the victim face down in the street.
The teenager, who was not identified, was conscious when he was transported by ambulance to UPMC Mercy, Uptown, authorities said. He died in the operating room at 4:22 p.m., according to the medical examiner's office.
Investigators found 15 shell casings and three guns near where the shooting took place at the intersection of Locust Way and Sarah Street.
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You just lost whatever credibility with me you may have had with that one 
They're the one's who are going to have to deal with problems - it's consistent with the Second Amendment. 
Nothing could be more authoritarian than allowing every fool in the country to run around with a gun whenever they want - that is a society of fear. 
Edit: It's okay. You've made clear you have no respect for law enforcement. How about not calling them when you need them? Since you're such a rugged individual.
People - Police - Courts - Legislature - Executive - cycle and repeat.
Gun control is a liberal position. Keeping guns out of the hands of crazies and White Supremacists is a liberal position. Why are their rights more important than mine? 
Sad.
Here, have another cartoon:
you are obviously unaware that the NRA pays royalties to these cartoonists to reprint their "work". The result is the best motivation that money can buy for more support - a reminder to firearm owners that pro-restriction supporters hold them in contempt.
The NRA utilizes these cartoons in the same way a martial artist utilizes the force of his/her opponent -- as a means to turn the energy of their opponent against them.
So sincere thanks, ellisonz, for aiding our cause by undermining your own!
The whole argument is predicated on the idea that Americans before the Civil War did not engage in any form of regulation before the modern gun industry.
It requires a sort of construction of early America is a a vacuum. It's like people who believe there was a Garden of Eden.
So you're saying everyone should be able to afford as many guns as they want and not bear any additional social responsibility for the burden they inflict: gotcha.
You also don't seem to care how many guns make into dangerous and criminal hands...
...as required by the Ninth Amendment. I'm suggesting no such thing - what I'm suggestion is that we take responsibility for our actions.
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
What do you imagine the duty of the police are if not that? BTW I cam across some disturbing material from the gun lobby that's basically making the same baloney claim - why have police at all if everybody can just use a gun to defend themselves?
Seriously, consider what life is like in the slums of American cities - what it's like to hear gunfire in your community and know that someone is using a gun to take someone's life for nothing, and that tens of millions of Americans consider there imaginative version of the Second Amendment to be more important than your basic human rights.
doesn't that count for something?
...your right to firearms does does not surpass others rights to life and freedom.
I've never denied the right to self-defense. I've simply denied the right to irresponsible gun ownership as being inconsistent with the Second Amendment.
I'm just going to hazard that you were not a policeman in a major urban city. My old roommate was a police officer and EMS technician for the City of Chicago. He can tell you stories about gun violence that would pierce your shell of the belief in an absolutist rendition of the second amendment. Where do you think criminals get their guns?
Also, you discredit yourself when you say I have an "UNprogressive agenda," if you believe that to be true please go have some conversations with the majority of DUers who are in opposition to such ridiculous notions as the idea that your rights are "subverted" by reasonable measures to protect the public. What exactly was your purpose if a police officer if not to "protect and serve?"
BTW you're not seriously advocating legalizing meth and heroin are you?
So whats so bad about requiring owners to take such a measure? What's so bad about keeping the mentally ill from buying weapons? What's so bad about requiring common sense measures that all evidence suggests could reduce gun violence dramatically? Why do you need to be as well armed as your average National Guardsman?
Then how do people get to jail to be charged for a crime - the police
Do you think the mentally ill should have guns?
To make less victims like this 14-year-old boy who was shot 15 times by three gunmen. How about you start thinking about people's rights other than your own.
How did the Indians get the British out of India?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_resistance
You seem to have a keyboard warrior syndrome because this is like the third time you did so in the last five minutes.
At this point I'm just finding his contributions to be disruptive and not worth engaging - that's might right as a DUer - I don't believe that poster has any real interest in discussion and just interested in launching personal attacks. I'm done with him. Dude quite clearly states that his rights are more important than others rights and frankly I find that to be a disturbing position
if we just institute a four o'clock tea time in the United States it might give everyone a chance to take a break and think about what they're doing.
Also, maybe we should just send all the rednecks over there. It wouldn't be hard. We could just tell them there is a new stock car race; something like the Piccadilly 500. If we tell them there will be free beer and Moon Pies they'll all be over there in twenty four hours.
Googled "moon pie Christmas". Google can find anything but I can't find my ass. Sheesh.
Happy Holidays backatcha.
