N.J. Senate president turns sprinklers on gun rights protesters

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/06/nj_senate_president_turns_his_sprinklers_on_gun_ri.html?cmpid=outbrain_politics_desktop

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Saying his wife was distraught and his special needs daughter frightened and crying, Sweeney (D-Gloucester) acknowledged he turned on his lawn sprinklers, spraying those who declined to disperse.
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First-time gun purchasers must first go to their local police station, fill out forms, undergo a background check to ensure they have no disqualifying mental health issues or criminal history, submit references, and pay a nominal fee. Police then conduct an investigation and are supposed to give a decision within 30 days, though many townships take two to three months, as is the case with Berlin Township, according to its police chief.

Sweeney noted he had previously sought to expedite the processing of firearms purchaser cards as part of 2013 bill that would have encoded permit information on the magnetic strip on driver's licenses or separate photo ID cards. However, Gov. Chris Christie conditionally vetoed it, writing that "none of the technology necessary for this system exists ..." Many gun rights activists also opposed the measure, citing privacy concerns.
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I'm personally okay with the sprinklers. After all it's private property and they were asked nicely to leave.

[Duckhunter935]

1. well if they were on his property

I have no issues with it. The gun rights people also have a right to peacefully protest, especially elected officials.

[gwheezie]

2. They went to his house?

Not his office or the state House? Well that's a great tactic. Agree they can demonstrate anywhere but its kinda rude.
It's a hot day anyway, its not like it was acid.

[tularetom]

3. I hate to say this but I agree with Christie's veto of this bill, but

I have no problem with Mr Sweeney turning sprinklers onto people who trespassed on his property.

[Travis_0004]

4. I don't really support protesting at somebody's private house

I think legally they have the right to do so, but that doesn't make it right.

If they were protesting on senate grounds, and somebody turned the sprinkler on to get them to go away, that would be wrong, but on private property I don't think they should be there, and the grass could have possibly used a bit of water

I feel the same way about protesting on CEO's lawns as well though. Leave them alone at home, protest all you want at corporate headquarters.

(For the record, I am pro gun)

[sarisataka]

7. Agree

it is a case of just because you have the right you don't have to always use it. There are proper places to protest and some that should be should be "off limits" as a matter of good taste. Private residences, funerals...

[Politicalboi]

5. Assholes

So our ONLY hope for protection with an asshole with a gun is to have to own one yourself even if you don't want to. Brilliant. Stupid gun humpers. I know that's not the situation here, I bet this woman still didn't want a gun and only needed it for her asshole ex. Where were these militia men to help her protect herself? Like the assholes who think women should just put their unwanted baby up for adoption, but would NEVER think of adopting it themselves. These assholes should have protected this woman since they're the big men with small penises with guns. They want to shoot somebody, let them help ALL abused women who have crazy ex's.

[Duckhunter935]

6. wow, what an angry post

Nice how you got the usual sexual reference in there, makes your argument on the subject so much better I think.

[beevul]

8. I'm disapointed...

I'm disappointed. You left out ammosexual, fetish, festooned, "blood on all their hands".

Those terms must be included in order for your rant to be taken seriously. I'm series!$!@&!!h!

[friendly_iconoclast]

9. And no call to throw all gun owners in jail! Tsk, tsk. Are there no standards anymore?

The antigun ranters are getting *most* lazy these days...

[beevul]

10. They have new ones...

It does not matter if the majority of firearms owners are law abiding.

Pass laws to freeze the assets of people with guns

Also, force employers to not pay employees who refuse to give up their guns.

They have a new ones.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026869796#op

Ya know what I find really interesting? The so called "reasonable gun control" folks who post in the other forum, are absolutely silent in the face of those suggestions made by the confiscationists in that thread, highlighted above. Violation of how many different constitutional rights in that thread, were suggested? And they say nothing.

And you know damn well sure, they've seen them.

[friendly_iconoclast]

11. "(Y)ou know damn well sure, they've seen them." So have people working for the NRA and GOA

And they will have no compunction whatsoever about quoting them while saying
"See, this is what Democrats want!", while the Liberal Gun Club and DUers like you and me get ignored.

If I was to be so conscience-impaired as to be writing propaganda for right wingers,
I could have a rich haul of source material simply by strip-mining DU for juicy quotes.

Some just don't grok the meaning of 'counterproductive'...

[Eleanors38]

12. All that penis talk, you'd think we were in a sausage factory.

[chrono884]

17. nothing wrong with penis talk

penis's are sexy

[Eleanors38]

19. My fantasy is having it ... Enraptured!

[collinsrent]

20. lol

good one

Enraptured: had to google that, thanks for teaching me a new word.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

14. "So our ONLY hope for protection with an asshole with a gun is to have to own one yourself"

For violent criminals the best defense may well be a gun.

For protesters the sprinklers seem to work just fine.

I bet this woman still didn't want a gun and only needed it for her asshole ex.

DUH!

Where were these militia men to help her protect herself?

This isn't even a coherent statement.

If she were to protect herself then what would be the point of the "militia" protecting her? Moreover, militias do not have law enforcement authority.

Of course, you would on any other day, demand the militia be disarmed; so I'm not sure what you're trying to claim here. Either private citizens are allowed to defend themselves or they aren't. Assuming they are -- and they are -- then claiming Person X can be armed but Person Y cannot makes no sense.

let them help ALL abused women who have crazy ex's.

Why should the victim be consigned to living under armed guards. Try doing something about the actual criminals for a change.

[chrono884]

18. "Where were these militia men to help her protect herself?"

you are your first line of defense. if you are unable or unwilling to defend yourself, then you're screwed.

life sucks

[Eleanors38]

13. "Get off my lawn."

[collinsrent]

21. you forgot the clip

[SecularMotion]

15. That's what happens when you violate safe havens

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

16. Hey

Let's get wet.