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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:21 PM Feb 2014

‘Screw Canada’: Arrest of gun-toting American at Canadian border enrages U.S. firearms community

“Screw Canada.” “Another reason not to venture to the dark north.”

Gun-related message boards lit up this week over news of the arrest of an American man at the Canadian border.

Retired U.S. Army sergeant major Louis DiNatale and his wife were on a romantic getaway from Kentucky to Vermont when they say their GPS led them astray to the border.

When DiNatale failed to declare a loaded handgun in the centre console — he says he simply forgot it was there — he was detained for four days and now faces gun-smuggling charges that could land him in prison for three years.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/02/05/screw-canada-arrest-of-gun-toting-american-at-canadian-border-enrages-u-s-firearms-community/
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‘Screw Canada’: Arrest of gun-toting American at Canadian border enrages U.S. firearms community (Original Post) SecularMotion Feb 2014 OP
Gun fetishists are a bunch of entitled cry babies. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #1
Actually, some of the comments are intelligent and condemn his carelessness. NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #3
God forbid I cry over slaughtered children. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #4
ROFL, there it is again, the children..... NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #8
Yep, fuck the kids. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #14
Just remember Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #17
"Do it for the women and children" MicaelS Feb 2014 #12
Great argument. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #13
88,000 deaths. "alcohol is a leading factor in child maltreatment and neglect cases" NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #15
But you seem to "enjoy" the prospect of punishment Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #18
"Forgot it was there" Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #2
"Can't I just turn around?" ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #5
I'll try that one the next time that I'll be smuggling narcotics into the US. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #7
Link to "guns.com" article and the actual comments, most condemn the idiot. NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #6
I call its bullshit he was already violating NY's States firearms possession laws........ Historic NY Feb 2014 #9
"GPS lead them astray" WTF? riverwalker Feb 2014 #10
If the GPS had misled them to the border via Detroit or Buffalo, that would be SOMEWHAT intelligible rocktivity Jun 2018 #19
although the NP's owner is active in the Liberal party, gejohnston Feb 2014 #11
Also never answer their what's your reason for your trip ileus Feb 2014 #16

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,867 posts)
1. Gun fetishists are a bunch of entitled cry babies.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:24 PM
Feb 2014

Wahhhhh why doesn't the second amendment apply in a foreign country? Wahhhhh

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. Actually, some of the comments are intelligent and condemn his carelessness.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:31 PM
Feb 2014

Example:

“Does one show respect for weapons by forgetting where they put them?"


IMO, the gun fetishists who want to take guns away from law abiding citizens are the real crybabies in the debate over the Second Amendment.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
8. ROFL, there it is again, the children.....
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:39 PM
Feb 2014

When you got nothin' else, pull out the children, or pull out the "2A was to enforce slavery" or whatever.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,867 posts)
14. Yep, fuck the kids.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 03:25 PM
Feb 2014

Gotta keep my toys. After all someday you'll get to be a hero. Keep living that fantasy.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
17. Just remember
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:03 AM
Feb 2014

the next time you have a beer your easy access to alcohol murders 4600 children annually due to under-aged drinking.

Party-on, dude!

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
12. "Do it for the women and children"
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 03:19 PM
Feb 2014

Was one of the reasons why Alcohol Prohibition got passed. We all know how well that worked.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
15. 88,000 deaths. "alcohol is a leading factor in child maltreatment and neglect cases"
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 03:51 PM
Feb 2014

Surely, you are not as ignorant as the things you are posting, are you?

This is from that NRA loving org, the CDC:

Immediate Health Risks

Excessive alcohol use has immediate effects that increase the risk of many harmful health conditions. These immediate effects are most often the result of binge drinking and include the following—

Unintentional injuries, including traffic injuries, falls, drownings, burns, and unintentional firearm injuries.6
Violence, including intimate partner violence and child maltreatment. About 35% of victims report that offenders are under the influence of alcohol.7 Alcohol use is also associated with 2 out of 3 incidents of intimate partner violence.7

Studies have also shown that alcohol is a leading factor in child maltreatment and neglect cases, and is the most frequent substance abused among these parents.8

Risky sexual behaviors, including unprotected sex, sex with multiple partners, and increased risk of sexual assault. These behaviors can result in unintended pregnancy or sexually transmitted diseases.9, 10
Miscarriage and stillbirth among pregnant women, and a combination of physical and mental birth defects among children that last throughout life.11, 12
Alcohol poisoning, a medical emergency that results from high blood alcohol levels that suppress the central nervous system and can cause loss of consciousness, low blood pressure and body temperature, coma, respiratory depression, or death.13

http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm


ForgoTheConsequence

(4,867 posts)
5. "Can't I just turn around?"
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:35 PM
Feb 2014

I'm going to try that one next time I'm pulled over. You broke the law buddy, enjoy jail.

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
7. I'll try that one the next time that I'll be smuggling narcotics into the US.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:38 PM
Feb 2014

"If you let me go back, no crime has taken place, right?"

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
6. Link to "guns.com" article and the actual comments, most condemn the idiot.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:37 PM
Feb 2014

I love how the nationalpost.com article tries to paint the "firearms community" as idiotic.

Read the actual comments, very few have the tone suggested by the article, most are reasonable replies saying that DiNatale should have known better.

If you "forget" that you have a firearm in your car, in your nightstand, in a kitchen drawer, etc, you'll be the next tragedy we all read about...Responsible gun owners don't "forget" that they have a gun, PERIOD...

The SGM forgot to have another weapon in his possession, got sloppy with a lame excuse which would not fly nowhere and Canadian Patrol would get a nice slice of money from it. I would assure you, he would get a review from his permit from the state of Kentucky since he forgets where does he leave his weapons.

Waa Waa Waa. They were in Canada and Canada is NOT the United States. It's called sovereignty, and as a firearm owner, I keep my firearms locked and secured if I go to Canada or Mexico.

http://www.guns.com/2014/02/03/retired-us-army-vet-facing-three-years-canadian-jail-forgot-gun-car/


But there's really no control over who posts replies, if they're really gun owners or just gun-grabbing trolls.

Kind of a waste of bandwidth, actually.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
9. I call its bullshit he was already violating NY's States firearms possession laws........
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:45 PM
Feb 2014

the Thousand Island Bridge Crossing is from NY. If he was going to Vermont he wasn't even close, he was entering Canada directly. Interestingly enough since Jan 23. 2007 he would have needed a passport to enter.

Perhaps he needs glasses.........so he could read those huge freaking signs.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
10. "GPS lead them astray" WTF?
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:45 PM
Feb 2014

I've driven up near the border and you can't miss the signs all over the place that you are approaching the border. What an idiot.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
19. If the GPS had misled them to the border via Detroit or Buffalo, that would be SOMEWHAT intelligible
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 11:21 PM
Jun 2018

But we're supposed to believe that they didn't notice that they were no longer going east?

You'd think that people with military backgrounds would be a little more diligent about knowing where their guns are. And Kentucky to Vermont is thirty hours round trip by car -- a "weekend" getaway, they said?


rocktivity

ileus

(15,396 posts)
16. Also never answer their what's your reason for your trip
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 10:27 PM
Feb 2014

wrong....you'll end up having your car searched.


A friend of mines son at the hospital was caught several years back with a disassembled pistol in his trunk he'd forgotten. Ended up costing him several thousand in lawyer fees and 6000 bucks in fines.

Personal safety and human rights shouldn't yield at a border. My life isn't any less valuable in Canada than in my home country.

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