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discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 02:25 PM Nov 2013

Gun-control progress

I think it's clear that the most likely path to progress on firearm rights v control issues will through the cooperation of individuals diverse in their beliefs about firearm dangers/benefits and party politics.

With that in mind, isn't it counterproductive to engage in making enemies of those who don't agree with all of your attitudes?

Regardless of your personal opinion on guns and related laws, can you discuss relevant issues with those opposed to your views and ideals without hostility or abandoning the exchange?


13 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Yes, I usually remain civil and participate actively and have actually changed my opinion(s) based on discussions here
2 (15%)
Sometimes but I often get frustrated explaining my position and give up
0 (0%)
I'm not interested in compromising on my core issues but can discuss some other issues
0 (0%)
I can't promise any compromise but I'm in favor of discussing all the topics
7 (54%)
We are better off with no gun laws, case and mind closed
2 (15%)
We are better off with no guns, case and mind closed
2 (15%)
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Gun-control progress (Original Post) discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2013 OP
Voted option one but rrneck Nov 2013 #1
I agree - it's counterproductive nikkdagger Sep 2014 #2
Sure. beevul Sep 2014 #3
cool discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2014 #4
*Excellent* point. pablo_marmol Sep 2014 #5

nikkdagger

(1 post)
2. I agree - it's counterproductive
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 11:34 AM
Sep 2014

I agree - it's counterproductive. Stuff like this short comic is a great example:
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It oversimplifies the issue and makes the other side look stupid.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
3. Sure.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:44 PM
Sep 2014

"Regardless of your personal opinion on guns and related laws, can you discuss relevant issues with those opposed to your views and ideals without hostility or abandoning the exchange?"

Sure.

FWIW, I'm not entirely comfortable with the "rights vs control" framing. It leapfrogs discussion of all other means of preventing gun violence, and jumps right to (gun) control.

Just sayin...











discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
4. cool
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 02:14 PM
Sep 2014

People that act in groups have been trained to a limited spectrum of behavior. Some folks talk to the others and listen spreading ideas. Some of those idea spreaders are orators. They are well-spoken, charismatic and often become leaders. In the US folks often tend to want their problems handled. They routinely expect this to be accomplished by the government, hence laws/control.

I agree that improvement needs to be multidisciplinary.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
5. *Excellent* point.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 02:40 AM
Sep 2014

FWIW, I'm not entirely comfortable with the "rights vs control" framing. It leapfrogs discussion of all other means of preventing gun violence, and jumps right to (gun) control.

In point of fact, this is the dead giveaway that The Controllers aren't sincerely concerned about the victims of gun violence. Because if they were, they'd be interested in ways to curb gun violence other than vain attempts to restrict the raw number of firearms in the nation.
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