"Why I love my Job" or "Gun guys CAN be liberals."

[chemp]

I am the operation manager of a local gun store/ Rifle range.

I was chatting up a (rather creepy) customer about the range, it's costs, when he could shoot, what he could shoot, etc., when he shifted the conversation suddenly to the local CCW (conceal carry law). He said he had heard it was difficult to get a CCW here and asked my opinion.

My response was that I felt the state was doing THEIR job by taking the full 30 days to inquire with local law enforcement as well as asking follow-up questions to assure themselves that you are telling the truth. I told him, so long as he has a valid reason for his CCW, and that he answers all solicited questions promptly, there should be no problem at all.

He responded, quite matter of factly, that he has NO reason, other than it is his 2nd amendment right, to get his CCW.

Overhearing the conversation is salesperson #1, a Capitol Police officer. "No, it is NOT your 2nd amendment right to a CCW." He points out.

"But the 2nd amendment clearly state...", the customer protests and is immediately interrupted by salesperson #2, a lawyer. "So, you know the law, eh...? Why don't you tell us what the second amendment states."

Customer mutters something under his breath, and wanders off to look at targets.

Salesperson #1, returns to working with a customer filling out his paper work for a handgun purchase. The customer picks up his firearm, shows it to his friend who just entered the store and shouts, "Look! A Trayvon Special!"

Salesperson #1 takes the handgun away, tears up the paperwork and tells him plainly that he cannot purchase a firearm in this store.

I love my job.

[rrneck]

1. Cool story bro. nt

[Loudly]

2. You are clearly part of the problem.

You're enabling the flow of guns into the hands of the public.

Cute story notwithstanding.

[chemp]

4. I am enabling, alright

I am allowing rational gun owners purchase firearms, which they use for target shooting and rural hunting.
And we also provide a place for such individuals to shoot, in a safe environment.

And my store is much more open to refuse a sale to anyone who does not appear stable.

[Mojorabbit]

5. That was a crappy response. nt

[friendly_iconoclast]

6. Now *that's* the sharesunited we know! Don't ever change, mmkay?

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

7. ^^^ Winner ^^^ n/t

[Lizzie Poppet]

8. And doing so responsibly. Good for him.

[geckosfeet]

3. Sweet. You have lawyers and leo's working in guns stores.

From you avatar, I would guess you are in MA. I thought they had 40 days to make a decision on your permit.

PM me your store/range if you don't mind - if you are in MA that is. I live in MA and have been trying to find a liberal leaning gun shop/range/club. They all seem to land somewhere on the continuum of rwers.

[jimmy the one]

9. mind gone haywire

I'm rather confused here, chemp, since it seems you - the self confessed operation mgr of a local gun store/range - denied two firearm transfers. Are you also salesmen 1?

chemp's OP: I am the operation manager of a local gun store/ Rifle range. I was chatting up a (rather creepy) customer.. I told him, so long as he has a valid reason for his CCW, and that he answers all solicited questions promptly, there should be no problem at all.. He responded ..that he has NO reason, other than it is his 2nd amendment right, to get his CCW. Overhearing the conversation is salesperson #1, a Capitol Police officer. "No, it is NOT your 2nd amendment right to a CCW." He points out. Customer mutters something under his breath, and wanders off to look at targets.

It seems like yours is a may issue state, & 'capitol police' signals Wash DC (but ccw effectively disallowed so can't be*), perhaps adjoining maryland your store. Anyway, it seems the wannabe ccw holder was dissuaded from his original aim. Was he uninformed of his state's ccw laws? is the officer the FFL agent & you are he, or you are proud of him?
*WashDC has always been 'may issue', but with such rigid requirements almost all requests are denied, effectively prohibited.

chemp, cont'd: Salesperson #1 {aka capitol police offr}, returns to working with a customer filling out his paper work for a handgun purchase. The customer picks up his firearm, shows it to his friend who just entered the store and shouts, "Look! A Trayvon Special!" Salesperson #1 takes the handgun away, tears up the paperwork and tells him plainly that he cannot purchase a firearm in this store.

This appears discretionary, for what indeed is the violation of customer's alleged 2ndA rights? mere muttering a similarity in guns? isn't that an infringement in nra eyes? denying the gun sale? Could this have happened in kentucky or montana?

I love my job

For denying or suppressing two firearm transactions to 'law abiding' customers? At first I was going to say well done, & actually still think so, but with reservations since the progun crowd seems to be endorsing your actions. Thus the confusion.

[friendly_iconoclast]

10. Do you think there should *always* be an assumption that a potential gun purchaser is legal?

I take it you have no problem with private sales of firearms, since there's no way for a non-FFL holder
to do a background check.

You lot sure are willing to speak from both sides of your mouths when convenient...