Daughter Of Newtown Victim Confronts Ayotte Over Gun Check Vote

[CreekDog]

The daughter of Sandy Hook Elementary School principal and shooting victim Dawn Hochsprung confronted Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) over her vote against expanding gun background checks at a town hall in Warren, N.H. on Tuesday.

"You had mentioned that day you voted, owners of gun stores that the expanded background checks would harm," Erica Lafferty said, according to NBC News. "I am just wondering why the burden of my mother being gunned down in the halls of her elementary school isn't more important than that."

Ayotte responded: "Erica, I, certainly let me just say - I'm obviously so sorry."

"And, um, I think that ultimately when we look at what happened in Sandy Hook, I understand that's what drove this whole discussion -- all of us want to make sure that doesn't happen again," Ayotte said.

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Unsatisfied with Ayotte's answer, Lafferty "stood and stormed out" of the town hall. "I had had enough," she said.

The nation's top gun lobby, the National Rifle Association, and the National Shooting Sports Foundation each began running radio ads on Monday in New Hampshire thanking Ayotte for opposing legislation that would have expanded background checks on firearm purchases.

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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/daughter-of-newtown-victim-confronts-ayotte-over-gun?ref=fpa

Watch the video:

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbc-news/51722588

[gejohnston]

1. I have a question

"You had mentioned that day you voted, owners of gun stores that the expanded background checks would harm,"

Did Ayotte actually say that? If so, she didn't read the bill or doesn't know what she is talking about. Gun stores already do background checks. FFL holders at gun shows do background checks. Online sales that are interstate already go through background checks by receiving FFL. If FFL isn't used for interstate private sales, that is a violation of the 1968 Gun Control Act.

[sylvi]

2. We're not supposed to know the answer to that.

The answer might run counter to the narrative.

We're only supposed to see a traumatized face, and that is supposed to close the discussion.

I wonder how much gravitas anti-gunners give to the words of Susan Hupp. Would they be willing to legislate based on her emotional pleas?

[pacalo]

3. +1.

[rdharma]

7. The clue is "expanded background checks".......

What they were talking about is EXPANDING background checks to PRIVATE SALES. Ayotte claimed that it would hurt gun stores if they were required to run background checks for PRIVATE FIREARMS TRANSFERS.

[gejohnston]

9. but the mt amendment

Would not cover most private sales. That was the point

[Control-Z]

4. Ayotte is despicable.

Hanging with the good ole boys - doing as she's told.

[jimmy the one]

5. special kinds of cowards

National Rifle Association, and the National Shooting Sports Foundation each began running radio ads on Monday in New Hampshire thanking Ayotte for opposing legislation that would have expanded background checks on firearm purchases

Any member of congress who supports the special interests of the profit minded NRA & gun lobby,
is a special kind of COWARD.

[clffrdjk]

8. Jimmy good job

You shortened your walls of text into something kind of legible. Now start using quotation marks and hot links when quoting things rather than italics and I will be really impressed. As for curing you of your name calling well I have given up hope for that.

[jimmy the one]

23. Advice column

clffrdjk: You shortened your walls of text into something kind of legible. Now start using quotation marks and hot links when quoting things rather than italics and I will be really impressed.

I'm not trying to impress you in the slightest. I'll post the way I see fit.
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[kudzu22]

6. Of course what you want to say is

how would background checks have saved Lafferty's mother? The answer, of course, is that they wouldn't. It would just be another law that Lanza violated during his rampage -- transferring the guns to himself without a background check after murdering his mother. But you can't say that to a surviving relative. It makes you come off as heartless, which is why the other side uses victims. It's to prevent logic from entering the discussion.

[JohnnyBoots]

10. Was the daughter

even a NH resident? I feel like the walk out was planned and filmed by MAIG to get in the news cycle. Astro-turfing at its finest.

[CreekDog]

11. Wow, what a piece of work you are...the daughter is from a state the Senator shouldn't care about

no wonder you were blocked from the other group.

going for the full block from DU?

[DonP]

12. So disagreeing with you is now a TOS violation?

Wow! Nice ego you got there.

Everybody but the Bloomberg syncophants are blocked for the "other group" so if that's a standard of some kind, it's pretty broad.

[CreekDog]

14. no, but being a jerk by saying that a Newtown victim isn't Ayotte's concern b/c it's out of state

that's so low it does get into TOS territory.

you can disagree with me all you want.

but say a Newtown victim isn't worth a Senator's time? that's practically trolling, not to mention completely heartless.

oh, but if a *gun* was hurt in any of these situations, then by all means, be very, very upset, such as guns melted down in gun buybacks run by Arizona police departments. oh then, by all means, we must protect the gun.

[friendly_iconoclast]

26. It seems that you lot only support the victims that hew to your line.

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And woe betide those that do not:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11726794#post45

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1092030

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If his child is that unimportant to him, I can't regard him as much of a human being, much less a father. If other people's children aren't worth saving to him, then I'd probably tell him to go home, curl up in his fetal position and fellate his gun barrel to his heart's content until he gets it to come. problem solved.

[JohnnyBoots]

13. Town Halls should be

for constituents, not political side shows pushing an agenda. Ayotte represents NH, not CT. Two very different states.

If you are going to post things outside of the Ivory Tower be ready for differing opinions. If you don't want that then stay in the echo chamber.

[CreekDog]

15. if you really believe that I dare you to post that as an OP in GD

honestly, i think you are trolling this issue.

if you honestly believed it, you'd post it in the main forum, which would take more guts.

[JohnnyBoots]

16. Why would I post a thread

That will get flamed and eventually locked? Yes, all differing opinions are from trolls. It must be great to live in a world where you are always right.

[CreekDog]

17. because you know how abhorrent what you posted here is

ironically, you stay in this group because your abhorrent post is accepted and even encouraged.

[JohnnyBoots]

18. How is asking

if she is a NH resident "abhorrent"? Get a grip.

[CreekDog]

19. you aren't just "asking" you're saying Newtown victims have no place in that meeting

you are saying that no member of a Newtown family be allowed to talk at the town hall meeting.

don't be coy about this. if you have the courage of your convictions, own it, don't run away from it as you are doing.

[JohnnyBoots]

20. If

they are not a NH resident then they don't belong there. I don't care who they are. If they are a NH resident then they should be allowed to speak their mind. That's not a foreign concept. Local politics should stay local.

[CreekDog]

21. You are wrong that a Senator only makes local decisions

so it turns out, your abhorrent opinion is based on the erroneous thought that a Senator is a local official and makes no decisions that are national or international in nature.

[JohnnyBoots]

22. She's there in DC to represent the

state of NH. Why should she care what someone in CT thinks? Local politics in that it was a local town hall in NH for NH residents. She was not holding a public press conference in DC. There's a diffrence, though it seems lost on you.

So, if the NRA started a town hall campaign across the country popping in here and there at local events you'd be OK with Wayne Lapierre asking a loaded questions and then storming off for some camera time to get in the news cycle? Because that's the exact same thing you're defending.

[oldhippie]

24. JohnnyBoots - 1, Creekdog - 0

Sorry CD, your position loses. I don't see any support for it here. You'd probably get a better reception in the other group.

[DonP]

25. Sure, but he probably wants someone to actually see his posts ...

... and the designated echo chamber can go for a day with only a post or two.

Here he knows he'll have people see it and if he works it right maybe get somebody banned.

They keep failing dismally at closing the whole Gungeon, so it seems they are trying a "one at a time" approach.