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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:52 AM Feb 2013

Pro-gun lobbyist kicked out of Colorado Capitol after alleged threat

DENVER - Amid already high tensions over gun policy inside the state Capitol, a pro-gun lobbyist was thrown out of the building Friday at the request of a Republican House member.

Rep. Cheri Gerou (R-Evergreen) accuses the lobbyist of threatening her with political attack ads through a mail campaign after a heated exchange about upcoming votes on gun issues, which would violate ethics rules.

State Patrol officers responded, but the sergeant-at-arms escorted Rocky Mountain Gun Owners' Association lobbyist Joe Neville from the building at Gerou's request.

Gerou says it started when she got a call from GOP leaders asking if she planned to flip and vote in favor of four gun amendments being debated on the House floor.

http://www.9news.com/news/politics/317265/166/Pro-gun-lobbyist-kicked-out-after-alleged-threat
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Pro-gun lobbyist kicked out of Colorado Capitol after alleged threat (Original Post) SecularMotion Feb 2013 OP
I am confused SQUEE Feb 2013 #1
I can't wait for the day when ALL lobbyists are thrown out of capitols. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2013 #2
A threat? oldhippie Feb 2013 #3
He violated the ethics rules. SecularMotion Feb 2013 #4
That's very interesting .... oldhippie Feb 2013 #5
Colorado Sunshine Law - Regulation of Lobbyists SecularMotion Feb 2013 #6
Thanks. Again, that is very interesting .... oldhippie Feb 2013 #8
Threat of a mail campaign? Straw Man Feb 2013 #7
Apparently against the rules in CO. oldhippie Feb 2013 #9
Understood. Straw Man Feb 2013 #10
Glad he wasn't a pro-nuclear energy lobbyist. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #11

SQUEE

(1,315 posts)
1. I am confused
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 09:13 AM
Feb 2013

I have been led to believe such confrontations would end in a hail of gunfire and a bloody abattoir of a crime scene. Can't just the slightest look of disaproval set off those crazy gun folk?

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
3. A threat?
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:29 PM
Feb 2013

So, we are to believe "... threatening her with political attack ads through a mail campaign ..." is worthy of removal from the chamber? There must have been more than that.

Isn't that kinda, like, you know, free speech? And it was targeted against a Republican?

Great journalism.

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
4. He violated the ethics rules.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:35 PM
Feb 2013
Neville will be allowed back into the Capitol and provided with a copy of the ethics rules prohibiting political retribution.
 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
5. That's very interesting ....
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:43 PM
Feb 2013

Political retribution is unethical? Boy, I'm glad none of that goes on around here.

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
6. Colorado Sunshine Law - Regulation of Lobbyists
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:55 PM
Feb 2013
COLORADO REVISED STATUTES

*** This document reflects changes current through all laws passed
at the Second Regular and First Extraordinary Sessions
of the Sixty-Eighth General Assembly of the State of Colorado 2012
and Constitutional and Statutory amendments approved at the General Election on November 6, 2012 ***

TITLE 24. GOVERNMENT - STATE
ADMINISTRATION
ARTICLE 6. COLORADO SUNSHINE LAW
PART 3. REGULATION OF LOBBYISTS

C.R.S. 24-6-308 (2012)

24-6-308. Prohibited practices



(1) No person engaged in lobbying shall:

(a) Make any agreement under which any consideration is to be given, transferred, or paid to any person contingent upon the passage or defeat of any legislation; the making or defeat of any rule, standard, or rate by any state agency; or the approval or veto of any legislation by the governor of this state;

(b) Knowingly attempt to deceive, or make a false statement to, a covered official regarding any material fact relating to a matter that is within the scope of duties of the covered official;

(c) Conceal from a covered official the identity of the person or entity for whom the lobbyist is lobbying;

(d) Knowingly use a fictitious name, or a real name without the consent of the person whose name is used, to communicate with a covered official;

(e) Knowingly represent an interest adverse to the lobbyist's principal without first obtaining the consent of the principal after full disclosure by the lobbyist of the adverse interest;

(f) Make any form of payment to a covered official as compensation for any interest in real or personal property or the provision of services in excess of the amount of compensation that would be paid by a person who is not a lobbyist for such interest or services in the ordinary course of business;

(g) Make a loan to a covered official or engage in any other transaction with a covered official with the intention of making the covered official personally obligated to the lobbyist;

(h) Attempt to influence the vote of a covered official in connection with any pending matter by threat of a political reprisal, including without limitation the promise of financial support of, or opposition to, the covered official's candidacy at any future election;

(i) Seek to influence a covered official by communicating with the covered official's employer;

(j) Cause to be introduced, or influence the introduction of, any bill, resolution, amendment, standard, rule, or rate for the purpose of afterwards being employed to secure its passage or defeat;

(k) Receive compensation for lobbying while serving as a state officer or employee of the state central committee of a political party;

(l) Make a campaign contribution in excess of the applicable limitations established by law or rule or make, solicit, or promise to solicit a campaign contribution during the period when lobbyists are prohibited from making such contributions under section 1-45-105.5, C.R.S.;

(m) Employ, subcontract, or pay compensation to a person for lobbying who has not registered as a lobbyist; or

(n) Engage in any other practice that discredits the practice of lobbying or the general assembly.

(2) Any person who believes that a lobbyist has committed any act or omission in violation of this section may file a complaint with the secretary of state or any member of the executive committee of the general assembly in accordance with the procedures for filing a complaint against a lobbyist under the joint rules of the senate and the house of representatives. Upon receipt of a complaint, the secretary of state may act upon alleged violations of this section to enforce governing laws or rules or may refer the matter to the executive committee of the general assembly.
 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
8. Thanks. Again, that is very interesting ....
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 03:21 PM
Feb 2013

At first I kind of recoiled from (h), thinking it was an abridgment of free speech. But, after thinking about it for awhile, it pertains only to paid lobbyists, which is OK, I guess. I would not accept such a limitation on a citizen. We threaten politicians all the time with our votes and our dollars. As it should be.

Straw Man

(6,622 posts)
10. Understood.
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 04:48 PM
Feb 2013

But when they put "pro-gun" and "threat" in the headline, it does tend to lead the mind in a certain direction. I'd say it was deliberately misleading.

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