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Thu Jan 31, 2013, 06:41 PM

Do you ever use lead shot and does any of it go into the environment?

Just curious.

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Reply Do you ever use lead shot and does any of it go into the environment? (Original post)
CreekDog Jan 2013 OP
tularetom Jan 2013 #1
littlewolf Jan 2013 #2
NoOneMan Jan 2013 #3
sylvi Jan 2013 #4
guardian Jan 2013 #5
CreekDog Jan 2013 #7
Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #18
ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #6
CreekDog Jan 2013 #8
ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #9
CreekDog Jan 2013 #11
ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #12
Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #19
ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #10
ileus Jan 2013 #13
CreekDog Jan 2013 #15
iiibbb Jan 2013 #14
jmg257 Jan 2013 #16
holdencaufield Feb 2013 #21
jmg257 Feb 2013 #22
Clames Jan 2013 #17
JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2013 #23
Clames Feb 2013 #24
CokeMachine Feb 2013 #20
CreekDog Feb 2013 #26
CreekDog Feb 2013 #28
CokeMachine Feb 2013 #31
CreekDog Feb 2013 #33
CokeMachine Feb 2013 #34
CreekDog Feb 2013 #35
montanto Feb 2013 #25
CreekDog Feb 2013 #27
montanto Feb 2013 #30
krispos42 Feb 2013 #29
CreekDog Feb 2013 #32

Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 06:43 PM

1. Yes and probably

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 06:48 PM

2. Use slugs. They are lead and yes they probably go into the environment. nt

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 06:53 PM

3. Only when Im plum out of DU rounds

 

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Response to NoOneMan (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:07 PM

4. LOL

 

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:17 PM

5. Just putting it back

 

into the ground from whence it came.

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Response to guardian (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:24 PM

7. how do you put it in the ground? do you bury it?

does it come out of the ground in the same shape and size as when you return it?

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:30 PM

18. At shooting ranges, lead is "mined" out for re-use.

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:17 PM

6. Used to for trap . Nothing else is legal for use in competition

Shot is generally reclaimed and sold at most fields.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:25 PM

8. you mean in enclosed ranges? what about elsewhere?

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:30 PM

9. No I mean at outdoor trap and skeet ranges

The shot falls in predictable areas. It is dug up, washed, screened, and bagged. Reloaders buy it and use it. Its considerably cheaper than new.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:40 PM

11. but that's not all places where lead shot is used

correct?

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:45 PM

12. True, but there are a lot more shells shot in trap than bird hunting

Normally 250 a day per competitor.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:34 PM

19. My guess is within 5 yrs lead shot for upland hunting will be banned...

It has been banned in all states for waterfowl for many years.

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:37 PM

10. If I was still doing bird hunting,

I would be using steel shot. Not only is it better for the environment, but I am too lazy to try to figure out where it is still legal to use lead shot.

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:45 PM

13. Only when I shoot or hunt.

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Response to ileus (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:55 PM

15. isn't that obvious?

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:52 PM

16. Yes and yes. Bird, duck & rabbit hunting. The shot went into fields and

a tributary or 2. Also trap & skeet shooting.

Oh and plenty of rifle & pistol target shooting, with FMJ & lead bullets, often enough back then. A hillside was usually the backstop, even at PD ranges.

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Response to jmg257 (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:01 AM

21. But ... how do you know ...

 

... if it's Rabbit or Duck Season?


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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #21)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:29 AM

22. Ha...the original Fudd. Nt

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:19 PM

17. Everything I have is jacketed lead.

 

But I do most of my shooting these days in an indoor range with a state-of-the-art capture system so none of it gets into the environment. Be nice if the anti-gunners would stop their nonsense so I could get some M855A1 which is lead-free.

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Response to Clames (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:59 AM

23. M855A1 has a steel "penetrator tip"

If that qualifies as "AP", most indoor ranges would frown on it. Is it legal for non-military use?

Being lead-free, it's probably better for the general environment. In particular, it's better for the fish in Lake Erie, where the bullets fired through targets at Camp Perry splash down.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #23)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:23 AM

24. So does M855 green tip.

 

That's perfectly legal, depending on the state, as are many steel cored and steel jacketed milsurp ammo. I have a spam can of surplus M2 AP for my Garand. No, can't shoot the stuff at most indoor ranges.

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:16 AM

20. Do you really care??

 

Drain Hetchy Hetchy and pay for your water. We all lost a great canyon to SF's water demands. But it's only your crusade so explain it anyway you can.

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Response to CokeMachine (Reply #20)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:09 PM

26. I do care, or is your hate for the Bay Area the reason you don't care about lead in the environment?

and to show how wrong you are, I post on environmental topics and anti-poverty topics and civil rights topics all the time.

obviously when you're referring to me and a "crusade" you don't have any idea what you're talking about AND are likely mixing me up with someone else.

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Response to CokeMachine (Reply #20)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:25 PM

28. by the way, you and I have never interacted before on the Bay Area and/or Hetch Hetchy

I don't believe you have ever posted on this topic before (draining Hetch Hetchy) as well as the visceral hatred of the Bay Area that came out of nowhere related to water.

or have we we interacted on this topic before? hmmm?

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #28)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:20 PM

31. I love the Bay Area (north bay)

 

Been here 30+ years. I'm not a fan of SF (Giants excluded). I worked in SF when they built that long pipe line, at the end of Ocean Beach, out into the ocean to dump their sewage. It really turned me off on the City. I've done a lot of reading about Hetch Hetchy and understand that that canyon was as grand if not more grand than Yosemite. It pisses me off that it was destroyed to provide water to SF. Again, I love the Bay Area once you get outside of the concrete jungles.

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Response to CokeMachine (Reply #31)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:44 PM

33. then why did you say that my only "crusade" was about this issue with respect to the environment?

that's completely wrong.

you don't even know me.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #33)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:23 PM

34. You are correct

 

I'm sorry -- Sometimes I spout off without thinking about what I'm saying. Take care

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Response to CokeMachine (Reply #34)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:27 PM

35. thank you. i've been there myself.

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:02 PM

25. Yes and no.

I use lead shot, but I only shoot straight up, and it all goes into outer space.

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Response to montanto (Reply #25)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:11 PM

27. that's the most vapid answer in this thread

you don't get a prize for that.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #27)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:18 PM

30. lol. ok

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Response to CreekDog (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:47 PM

29. Yes.

I shot some clays at a multipurpose shooting range (outdoor) and in my back yard, and I've been pheasant hunting. Bagged a few, missed a few more. Whatever didn't go into a bird went into the prairie.

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #29)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:25 PM

32. when I was younger and shooting with some regularity, the lead issue turned me off shooting

i never felt good about putting lead shot into the environment and i stopped shooting with friends because of that.

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