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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:57 AM

TN gun laws, or lack thereof, under attack

Tennessee is among 34 states that donít require any background checks for private sales of firearms, even if the sale is handled by an online site.

But now, the group Mayors Against Illegal Guns is calling for the federal government to mandate background checks in all gun sales. Itís sparked an emotional debate that even divides gun-rights advocates. Opponents decry the idea as an affront to individual freedoms and say citizens should be able to sell private property without government interference.

But supporters argue that guns sales should require more accountability on the part of the seller and the buyer to reduce the chances that a gun will fall into the wrong hands.

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who helped organize the Mayors Against Illegal Guns coalition, recently released a report criticizing Tennessee, among other states, for having buyers willing to sell guns to people they knew could not pass a background check.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120122/NEWS01/301220042/TN-gun-laws-or-lack-thereof-under-attack

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:40 AM

1. more accurately they are not allowed or discouraged

since I can not use NICS even if I wanted to.

As for Bloomberg's report:
http://www.stopillegalmayors.com/

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:48 AM

2. MAIG is almost as impotent as the Brady/VPC groups.


There are other solutions (like opening NICS) to private sellers.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:57 AM

3. Why isn't Bloomie more pissed at California?

More guns come into his state from CA than TN.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:57 AM

4. Wow! Considering the high percentage of convicted Felons in MAIG I'm not sure they are a good source

Since "Mayors Against All Guns" has a much higher percentage of convicted felons than any state's CCW permit holders, why in heavens name would you credit a thing they said?

Some of the MAAG are also GOP. As the resident "Left Wing Warrior", how can you tell us that anything from the GOP is all evil in one thread, but they are OK if they support gun control? Bloomie bulldozes OWS and he's a total jerk. Bloomie wants to ban guns and you can't wait to send him a check? Sounds like a pretty banal double standard.

I mean aside from all the other misinformation in your latest "cut and paste" opinion.

In fact it seems you specialize in cutting and pasting other peoples points of view, cartoons, stories, et. al. and pass it off as your own point of view. Not much in the way of original thinking from you on these issues it seems.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:58 AM

5. Its always someone else's problem, eh?

NYC can't control their criminals, even with 4th amendment violations like 'stop and frisk', so they have to blame other jurisdictions.

Bloomie can go screw himself.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:37 PM

6. Uncritical acceptance for a pronunciamento from Mayor 1%? Very telling, that.

I could understand saying something on the order of: "You know, I disagree with with So-and-So about most issues, but they're on the money in this
instance." Like Dick Cheney's stance on marriage equality, for example- or more importantly, most of the right wing's stance on the Second Amendment

But unless I'm greatly mistaken, no one that has commented favorably on Bloomberg's antigun jihad has offered any criticism whatsoever for
any of his other stances. To put it crudely, some DUers have swallowed his koolaid.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:47 PM

7. FMB and FMAG

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:53 PM

8. Most states don't require background checks for private in-state firearms sales.

 

Tennessee is among 34 states that donít require any background checks for private sales of firearms, even if the sale is handled by an online site.

The heck with "online". Go open your local free "Penny Saver" magazine and look in the "Sporting Goods" section. There are millions upon millions of firearms for sale by private individuals every day for anyone who is willing to pay market prices for used firearms.

I would not mind background checks for all firearm sales, so long as firearm ownership anonymity is preserved.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 03:24 PM

9. NY has fewer people dying from firearms than Tennesee

Last edited Fri Jan 27, 2012, 04:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Relative to Tennesee the state of New York has over three times as many people and yet there are more people in Tennesee each year that die from gunshot. The 12/7/2011 National Vital Statistics Reports Final Data for 2008 demonstrates that 963 people died from gunfire in all of NY while 985 people died from gunshots in Tennesee.
With that population disparity that means the rate per 100,000 of people dying from guns is 322% higher in Tennesee than in NY. (15.8 v 4.9). Nationally the rate is 10.4.

ďThe 12/7/2011 National Vital Statistics Reports Final Data for 2008Ē. It is available at; http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr59/nvsr59_10.pdf

National Vital Statistics Reports, Vol. 59, No. 10 Page 138 Table 19

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:39 PM

10. There is already a federal law...

...which makes it illegal for any seller to knowingly sell a firearm to a prohibited person. Bloomberg just needs to ask for more funding so that the feds can investigate and prosecute those who knowingly sell guns to prohibited persons. Simply enforce current laws, there is no need for more laws.

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