Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:54 AM
ellisonz (26,326 posts)
Employee shot and killed in W. Kensington storeUpdated at 11:54 PM today
By DANN CUELLAR WEST KENSINGTON - January 23, 2012 (WPVI) -- Philadelphia police are investigating a fatal shooting at a grocery store in West Kensington Monday night. Police have not identified the victim, but her friends in the neighborhood are identifying her as 29-year-old Reina Aguirre. --------- "This doesn't appear to be a robbery. It appears this male entered the store with the intent of shooting this female who was working behind the counter," Small said. Although police have not established a motive, some neighbors say she had been having problems with drug dealers on the block. http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/crime&id=8516163&rss=rss-wpvi-article-8516163 Nutter on violence: 'Enough is enough' January 17, 2012|By Troy Graham, Inquirer Staff Writer Mayor Nutter spent Monday attending events to commemorate the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and his teachings of peace and nonviolence - a legacy overshadowed in Philadelphia by the recent surge in killings on the city's streets. The mayor's last stop of the day was a packed Kensington church, where he spoke to a congregation that included about a dozen family members mourning the young victims of a quadruple shooting last week. He talked to them in often hushed tones about their loss, and about his own frustration and struggle with the deaths. "I'm still in pain," he said. "I'm not afraid to admit it." http://articles.philly.com/2012-01-17/news/30635485_1_mayor-nutter-peace-and-nonviolence-human-nature Do you think big city mayors have legitimate concerns about guns being illegally trafficked into their cities? Do you think this is a national concern? How firm are you set in your beliefs? Do you live in an urban, suburban, or rural neighborhood? How would you describe your neighborhood economically i.e. upper, middle, lower?
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 Employee shot and killed in W. Kensington store (Original post) |
ellisonz | Jan 2012 | OP |
| rrneck | Jan 2012 | #1 | |
| burf | Jan 2012 | #2 | |
| ileus | Jan 2012 | #3 | |
| Atypical Liberal | Jan 2012 | #4 | |
| burf | Feb 2012 | #24 | |
| Simo 1939_1940 | Feb 2012 | #25 | |
| Glassunion | Jan 2012 | #5 | |
| aikoaiko | Jan 2012 | #6 | |
| PavePusher | Jan 2012 | #7 | |
| ellisonz | Jan 2012 | #9 | |
| friendly_iconoclast | Jan 2012 | #11 | |
| ellisonz | Jan 2012 | #14 | |
| friendly_iconoclast | Jan 2012 | #15 | |
| ellisonz | Jan 2012 | #16 | |
| PavePusher | Jan 2012 | #17 | |
| AtheistCrusader | Jan 2012 | #12 | |
| ellisonz | Jan 2012 | #13 | |
| rl6214 | Jan 2012 | #8 | |
| spin | Jan 2012 | #10 | |
| SteveW | Jan 2012 | #18 | |
| PavePusher | Jan 2012 | #19 | |
| Glassunion | Feb 2012 | #20 | |
| ellisonz | Feb 2012 | #21 | |
| Common Sense Party | Feb 2012 | #22 | |
| Glassunion | Feb 2012 | #23 | |
| YllwFvr | Feb 2012 | #26 | |
| GreenStormCloud | Feb 2012 | #27 |
Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:53 AM
rrneck (14,007 posts)
1. If city mayors
Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:59 AM
2. But there was a sign posted on the door of the store .
Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:27 AM
ileus (9,315 posts)
3. Why can't cities control their criminals? Where I live there are 10+ guns per household
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Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:50 AM
Atypical Liberal (5,412 posts)
4. Why is it that people who live in cities can't be trusted with firearms?
Response to Atypical Liberal (Reply #4)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 04:54 PM
24. We who live out in the country
Response to burf (Reply #24)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:17 PM
25. ...
Dear friends of mine (husband/wife) just moved from their home in the city to a rural area of the county directly north of us. He has a number of pistols and a 12 gauge, but he's a perfect example of a person who could use an "assault weapon". Approaching senior status with a prosthetic leg and law enforcement virtually non-existent, myself and others have suggested that he get his hands on a bit more firepower. |
Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:41 AM
Glassunion (5,056 posts)
5. To answer your questions...
Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:46 AM
aikoaiko (16,629 posts)
6. I think city mayors should ask why their residents are committing crimes against each other.
Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:31 AM
7. No evidence in either of your "examples" that the "crime gun(s)" were from out-of-state.
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Last edited Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:34 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Insinuation-fail.
Edit: Nor have you demonstrated what percentages of gun-crimes are commited with out-of-state guns. More fail. |
Response to PavePusher (Reply #7)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:00 PM
ellisonz (26,326 posts)
9. So you're saying that such trends are statistically insignifcant?
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To come to that conclusion, you have to presuppose that it's a figure that really truly matters in the context of *real* lives.
I think coming to an accurate statistical analysis of such a question is probably much more difficult than you suppose. |
Response to ellisonz (Reply #9)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:42 PM
friendly_iconoclast (8,988 posts)
11. No, he's saying you don't have any evidence to connect your first link with the second.
Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #11)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:48 PM
ellisonz (26,326 posts)
14. Ha...
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Seriously: how would you construct such analysis in a meaningful way given that many guns used in crimes are never recovered? I'm betting you can't answer that question.
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Response to ellisonz (Reply #14)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:58 PM
friendly_iconoclast (8,988 posts)
15. You imply the gun used in that shooting came from outside PA, without evidence.
Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #15)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:00 PM
ellisonz (26,326 posts)
16. Didn't imply that...
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We don't know. What I implied is that there is an ongoing problem with criminal gun violence in urban areas and that many believe interstate gun trafficking has an effect.
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Response to ellisonz (Reply #9)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:43 PM
12. So, to put it another way: you've got nothin'.
Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #12)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:46 PM
ellisonz (26,326 posts)
13. Depends on your definition of somethin'.
Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:35 AM
rl6214 (7,536 posts)
8. WOW, criminals doing criminal things, whudda thought?
Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:10 PM
spin (14,763 posts)
10. I think that the majors find blaming gun dealers in other states for the problems in their cities
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Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:17 PM
18. Uh, no connection in stuff cited to "illegally trafficking." Miss-posting? nt
Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 03:50 PM
Glassunion (5,056 posts)
20. In case anyone gives a shit...
Response to Glassunion (Reply #20)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 03:57 PM
ellisonz (26,326 posts)
21. Thank you for updating!
Response to Glassunion (Reply #20)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 04:02 PM
22. So if guns were banned, she'd still be alive!
Response to Common Sense Party (Reply #22)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 04:42 PM
Glassunion (5,056 posts)
23. There you go...
Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:12 AM
27. If drugs were legal this might not have happened.
