HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Topics » Justice & Public Safety » Gun Control & RKBA (Group) » FInally - text of S.150 B...
Introducing Discussionist: A new forum by the creators of DU

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:19 PM

FInally - text of S.150 Bill...Assault Weapons Ban of 2013

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve/?File_id=9a9270d5-ce4d-49fb-9b2f-69e69f517fb4


A BILL
To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to
keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes.
1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
3 SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
4 This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Assault Weapons Ban
5 of 2013’’.
...
6 SEC. 2. DEFINITIONS.
7 (a) IN GENERAL.—Section 921(a) of title 18, United
8 States Code, is amended—
....
18 ‘‘(36) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’
19 means any of the following, regardless of country of manu
20 facture or caliber of ammunition accepted:
21 ‘‘(A) A semiautomatic rifle that has the capac
22 ity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the
23 following:
24 ‘‘(i) A pistol grip.
25 ‘‘(ii) A forward grip.
1 ‘‘(iii) A folding, telescoping, or detachable
2 stock.
3 ‘‘(iv) A grenade launcher or rocket launch
4 er.
5 ‘‘(v) A barrel shroud.
6 ‘‘(vi) A threaded barrel.
7 ‘‘(B) A semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed
8 magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10
9 rounds, except for an attached tubular device de
10 signed to accept, and capable of operating only with,
11 .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.
...

35 replies, 3919 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 35 replies Author Time Post
Reply FInally - text of S.150 Bill...Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 (Original post)
jmg257 Jan 2013 OP
holdencaufield Jan 2013 #1
AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #4
gejohnston Jan 2013 #5
holdencaufield Jan 2013 #11
AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #2
holdencaufield Jan 2013 #3
jmg257 Jan 2013 #8
Clames Jan 2013 #18
jpak Jan 2013 #20
iiibbb Jan 2013 #23
jpak Jan 2013 #24
Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #30
krispos42 Jan 2013 #26
sylvi Jan 2013 #13
AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #21
guardian Jan 2013 #28
SayWut Jan 2013 #15
Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #16
ileus Jan 2013 #6
Clames Jan 2013 #7
AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #9
krispos42 Jan 2013 #10
jmg257 Jan 2013 #12
Clames Jan 2013 #17
SayWut Jan 2013 #14
jpak Jan 2013 #19
bubbayugga Jan 2013 #22
Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #25
bubbayugga Jan 2013 #29
nick of time Jan 2013 #33
guardian Jan 2013 #27
slackmaster Jan 2013 #31
Clames Jan 2013 #32
slackmaster Jan 2013 #34
Clames Jan 2013 #35

Response to jmg257 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:21 PM

1. Darn!

 

Have to turn in my rocket launcher

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to holdencaufield (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:33 PM

4. This would ban the sale of my wife's shotgun, my AR, but not our Mini-14.

WTF. The Mini-14 behaves just like our AR. It's maybe a few ounces heavier. That's it. It's functionally identical.

This proposed law doesn't make much sense at all.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:35 PM

5. basically, staffers

that don't know anything about guns went through a stack of catalogs and wrote down whatever looked scary.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to gejohnston (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:46 PM

11. I'm thinking ...

 

... they just sat down and watched a whole season of "The Wire"

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jmg257 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:27 PM

2. Why are these features fixated on?

Pistol grip? This is an ergonomic issue. A forward grip? Most long guns are two-handed. For a reason. Telescoping stocks allow for easy use between two users of different physical size. It doesn't improve the concealability of the weapon, like a folder or removable stock. A grenade launcher is a empty freakin' tube. Grenades are regulated as Destructive Devices, and pretty much inaccessible (and not used in crimes in the US, for the most part because they are so scarce) A barrel shroud? HEAVEN FORFEND you not melt through a strap or something when you put the weapon down, or protect yourself from accidentally burning your hand on a hot barrel. WTF.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:28 PM

3. Fixation ...

 

... perfect word

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:40 PM

8. And they actually describe "barrel shroud"...pretty iffy...

‘‘(38) The term ‘barrel shroud’—
16 ‘‘(A) means a shroud that is attached to, or
17 partially or completely encircles, the barrel of a fire
18 arm so that the shroud protects the user of the fire
19 arm from heat generated by the barrel; and
20 ‘‘(B) does not include—
21 ‘‘(i) a slide that partially or completely en
22 closes the barrel; or
23 ‘‘(ii) an extension of the stock along the
24 bottom of the barrel which does not encircle or
25 substantially encircle the barrel.

Isn't that the purpose of most handguards?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jmg257 (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:03 PM

18. Very iffy indeed.

 

I don't see "shoulder thing that goes up..." in that section.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jmg257 (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:44 PM

20. This is important - hot barrels burn gun nut killers making it hard to continue firing

the hotter the better.

Ban the fucking shrouds.

yup

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jpak (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:03 PM

23. like they wouldn't think of a glove

 

You would do more for the gun control movement by not participating

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to iiibbb (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:35 PM

24. LOL!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jpak (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:57 PM

30. I had

the same reaction when I read Senator Feinstein's bill!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jpak (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 06:06 PM

26. Can we send the bills for burn treatment to AWB supporters?

n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:51 PM

13. Cosmetics

 

Cosmetic changes for the gun. Cosmetic changes for the politician. This way they can look like they're "doing something" for the hysterical ninnies who learned everything they need to know about guns and crime from some blathering talking head. It won't affect gun crime one whit, of course, including "mass shootings", but in a couple of years when statistics bear that out, the grab nuts can point to it a proof that we need to restrict even further.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to sylvi (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:54 PM

21. Some of those are safety features.

Anything that improves the controllability of recoil, and reduces fatigue, is a safety feature in my book.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #21)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 06:40 PM

28. The proposed law

 

also bans those extremely scary/deadly heat shields. Apparently having people burn themselves during an afternoon of target practice is a way to protect the public.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 03:06 PM

15. Looks like replacement and repair parts would be banned as well.

 

"Any combination of parts from which a firearm described in subparagraphs (A) through (K)
can be assembled".

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 03:59 PM

16. They're scary-looking.

Um...that's about it, really.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jmg257 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:39 PM

6. Hopefully we can stop this atrocity in it's tracks.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jmg257 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:40 PM

7. Can't wait to see who defends this bill as anything other than a farce of banning cosmetic features.

 

Note that the Benelli M2 Tactical is listed as an "exempted" semi-automatic shotgun.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Clames (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:41 PM

9. But the Remington 1100 Tactical isn't.

IM SO CONFUSED

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jmg257 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:46 PM

10. Look at this bone to Garand owners

(B) A semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed 8 magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds...



Pander, pander, pander.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to krispos42 (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:47 PM

12. They also explicitly exempt the Garand and Carbine (and SKS) in Appdx A.

Even Carbines w/bayo lugs (but not folding stocks).

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to krispos42 (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:00 PM

17. As a Garand owner I fully expect to be treated more equally than others.

 

Maybe she thinks M1 Thumb is enough of a reason to grant us leniency

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jmg257 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:58 PM

14. I have faith, that there are enough Senators with the courage and conviction

 

to defeat this shameless, ineffective legislation.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jmg257 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:41 PM

19. "Semi-automatic assault weapon"

That's what they are.

Fuck you NRA.

Yup

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jmg257 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:01 PM

22. Reid declines to endorse Feinstein's assault-weapons legislation

 

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Tuesday declined to voice support for Democratic legislation that would ban assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition clips.

Reid said he would bring gun-violence legislation to the floor and open it to a lengthy amendment process. But he declined to endorse the assault weapons ban introduced last week by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), which has the support of the 2nd- and 3rd-ranking Senate Democratic leaders.

“She’s talked to me about her assault weapons. The new one. She believes in it fervently and I admire her for that. I’ll take a look at that,” he said in response to a reporter's question. “We’re going to have votes on all kinds of issues dealing with guns, and I think everyone would be well advised to read the legislation before they determine how they’re going to vote it.”

Feinstein’s bill would ban the sale and manufacture of more than 150 types of semi-automatic weapons, including handguns with fixed magazines capable of holding more than 10 bullets.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/279895-reid-declines-to-endorse-feinstein-assault-weapons-ban#ixzz2JP8Q97uO
Follow us: @thehill on Twitter | TheHill on Facebook

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bubbayugga (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:38 PM

25. Thank you

Senator Reid.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Puha Ekapi (Reply #25)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 06:48 PM

29. thank you national rifle association you mean.

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bubbayugga (Reply #29)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:41 PM

33. Seeing your dream of a gun ban and confiscation going down the dream?

 

Reid is just listening to his constituents.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jmg257 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 06:36 PM

27. The proposed law

 

was written by morons for morons

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jmg257 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:27 PM

31. The Astute Observer(TM) will note that the "exempt" list includes LEVER- AND BOLT-ACTION RIFLES!

 

Firearms that would IN NO WAY meet the "features" test because they aren't semiautomatic and don't match the names of any specifically banned models.

Henry Yellow Boy:



Browning A-Bolt:



ETA on quick scan it appears that the MAJORITY of "exempt" firearms are bolt-actions.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to slackmaster (Reply #31)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:35 PM

32. Some very powerful semi-autos are also exempted.

 

Technical ignorance shining through on this bill. Can't wait to sit down and really go through it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Clames (Reply #32)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:43 PM

34. The bill is plainly a weak attempt to create a rift among gun owners, but we won't be fooled by it.

 

The 1994 "AW" ban also included an exemption list, but at least every item on it was a semiautomatic firearm.

This is an effort, albeit a lame one, to create a false sense of security among people who own "traditional" wood-stocked hunting rifles by separating them from people who own modern sporting rifles.

Some of us fell for that cheap trick in 1994. It won't work this time.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to slackmaster (Reply #34)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:27 PM

35. Charles Daly Tactical is also exempted...

 

As is the Fabarm/H&K Tactical shotgun, Nighthawk Tactical semi-auto shotgun, and one that doesn't seem to currently exist. All of these shotguns are offered with standard stocks and pistol grip stocks. Absolutely no difference in capacity or firepower, purely cosmetic differences.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread